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  1. #21
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker Official state witnesses?

    do you have reading problems?

    the official police statement was that they were modified trauma pistols, which seems unlikely

    witnesses said they appeared to be homemade pistols like in a popular Russian film
  2. #22
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    ok, trauma pistols makes more sense now

    http://www.travmatik.com/en/2012/07/pmsh1-less-lethal-makarov-pm/

    was apparently a pair of these. they need a bunch of parts replaced to fire anything but rubber bullets
  3. #23
    Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by aldra ok, trauma pistols makes more sense now

    http://www.travmatik.com/en/2012/07/pmsh1-less-lethal-makarov-pm/

    was apparently a pair of these. they need a bunch of parts replaced to fire anything but rubber bullets

    The Russian made trauma pistols some dumbass sheriff in AZ bought were breach loading 4 barrel 12 gauge. That thing is 6mm or basically .22 caliber. That makes this whole thing even more suspect. Even .22 WMR has very low muzzle energy from a short barrel like that.
  4. #24
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker The Russian made trauma pistols some dumbass sheriff in AZ bought were breach loading 4 barrel 12 gauge.

    Yeah that's the WASP type I was thinking of, not supposed to be a serious firearm but looks fun

    Originally posted by Speedy Parker That thing is 6mm or basically .22 caliber. That makes this whole thing even more suspect. Even .22 WMR has very low muzzle energy from a short barrel like that.

    fires 9mm nonlethal cartridges (though the projectile is probably smaller from the look of it). I assume you'd need to swap out the (smoothbore) barrel and springs and probably do some drilling based on the article
  5. #25
    Originally posted by aldra ok, trauma pistols makes more sense now

    http://www.travmatik.com/en/2012/07/pmsh1-less-lethal-makarov-pm/

    was apparently a pair of these. they need a bunch of parts replaced to fire anything but rubber bullets

    this school shooting wouldnt have happened had there been ammo control.
    The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
  6. #26
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker The Russian made trauma pistols some dumbass sheriff in AZ bought were breach loading 4 barrel 12 gauge. That thing is 6mm or basically .22 caliber. That makes this whole thing even more suspect. Even .22 WMR has very low muzzle energy from a short barrel like that.

    "low muzzle energy"

  7. #27
    Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny "low muzzle energy"


    What is your malfunction now kid?
  8. #28
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker What is your malfunction now kid?

    whats the recomended muzzle energie for a school shooting.
  9. #29
    Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny whats the recomended muzzle energie for a school shooting.

    You're not smart enough to have this conversation with.
  10. #30
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker You're not smart enough to have this conversation with.

    not smart enough to answer eh.
  11. #31
    Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny not smart enough to answer eh.

    It's a troll question
  12. #32
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker It's a troll question

    that you have no answer for.
  13. #33
    cigreting Dark Matter
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny whats the recomended muzzle energie for a school shooting.

    😂😂
  14. #34
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny whats the recomended muzzle energie for a school shooting.

    There isn't one. Pretty much any muzzle velocity would do fine over a short distance such as a school hallway or classroom.
  15. #35
    Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson There isn't one. Pretty much any muzzle velocity would do fine over a short distance such as a school hallway or classroom.

    The lethal potential of a projectile is dependent another factor besides velocity. Which why I said muzzle energy. Velocity and mass...
  16. #36
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson There isn't one. Pretty much any muzzle velocity would do fine over a short distance such as a school hallway or classroom.

    shlomo parker begs to differ. according to him, and i quote ...

    Originally posted by Speedy Parker Even .22 WMR has very low muzzle energy from a short barrel like that.

    this must mean he has preconceived notions of what the minimum amount of muzzle energy must be for an optimum school shooting.

    i'll ax again:





    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny whats the recomended muzzle energie for a school shooting.
  17. #37
    Bradley Black Hole
    speedyparker just a dumbfuck
  18. #38
    Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by Bradley speedyparker just a dumbfuck

    And you know zip about the factors that contribute to a projectile's lethal potential against a given target. Which is demonstrated by your poor math skills.

    Tell me how deflection angle must also be factored along with mass and velocity to determine penetration potential vs hard or soft targets at common ranges.
  19. #39
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny whats the recomended muzzle energie for a school shooting.
  20. #40
    Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny

    Go away Scooter
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