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World to hit temperature tipping point 10 years faster than forecast
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2022-09-16 at 6:37 PM UTC
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2022-09-16 at 7:11 PM UTCI casually read a headline the other day somewhere that said "Forget 10yrs we only have 17 months now to save the Planet"
FOOOKING NONSENSE MY LAD. -
2022-09-16 at 7:27 PM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe Ignorance is the most prominent barrier to understanding collapse. Ignorance involves a conscious choice or series of choices to disregard information and develop an understanding of it.
Societal conditioning compels us to avoid any information which would disturb our sense of equanimity. Fear of personal responsibility and the inability to face present or future suffering are major triggers of this form of psychological resistance. Courage is required to venture through the unknown towards the reality of our predicament.
Is that why you refuse to consider what really happens and cling to the fairy tales you read. -
2022-09-16 at 7:55 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker Is that why you refuse to consider what really happens and cling to the fairy tales you read.
I've never much thought of obbe as a close-minded person, especially compared to the vast majority of users here. Sure maybe he's fixated on climate change and I mean, whatever right? It's not like he means ill will, and it's just one subject.
The reality is there's next to no reason to come here anymore actually expecting anyone to engage in a civil discussion about much of anything, to me basically because everyone is so dug into their beliefs and have been calling anyone who disagree a retard for so long, that it's way too humiliating to even consider a concession to ones own beliefs or at least openly admitting it. Folks just double down on whatever no matter what.
And of course that isn't exclusive to this site, it's pretty much everywhere.
I feel like I could come here and explain how healthy whole grain bread is compared to other breads, show my statistics and evidence, and I would almost assuredly get someone to laugh and say thats an unfair comparison because democrats own the nutritional industry and have a bias toward whole grain.
There's just no winning here. Everyone magically has an answer for everything. It's amazing how so many people with so many opposing viewpoints can all be completely right at the same time! lol -
2022-09-16 at 7:58 PM UTC
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2022-09-16 at 7:59 PM UTC
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2022-09-16 at 8:02 PM UTC
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2022-09-16 at 8:11 PM UTCI've found people who bandy the word "ignorant" around as a counter argument are usually the ignorant ones.
ETA: racial equity people like to use "ignorant" a lot along with "you lack education on other races and cultures"
...I'm still waiting for one to educate me on what I'm missing about nogs nogging. -
2022-09-16 at 8:20 PM UTCI think that the global climate change is real.
but its not a tipping point. Nature does it over centuries. regardless of that LA posting we argued over. its a natural occuring thing. 500 years ago there was a water shortage. at the bottom of a stream in Europe someone wrote the year and in old english or welsh they wrote something that said something regarding mass famine to come.
so Im not contradicting myself. this is why
We as humans are adding to the "Nature does this naturally" arguement. Yes she will correct shit over a century or two but the way we burn through water allowing it to run while brushing our teeth or let it run when we're applying shampoo instead of turning it off. toilets flushing 2-3 gallons of fresh water (FUCKING LOL.. Why Didn't we also run ocean water into our toilet systems?) all of this and everyone in LA and Desert golf courses need a fucking lawn.
lawns seem awesome but take a ton of fertalizer and watering twice a day in the summer along with flooding it once a week to maintain a dark green lawn.
also never use the shortest level cut. lazy people cut it short so they dont have to cut it more than once a week. I would use the half setting and cut it twice a week. used less water because the sun didn't evaporate it out as fast
so We hitting 8 billion caused this with our western world habits of letting shit run on like a Scron post. -
2022-09-16 at 8:21 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker Yes, right now I still understand it, you are correct.
He is compulsively obsessed with climate change and will not consider a single fact which disputes his own views on it.
Idk man just because he's posted a lot itt, he spends a lot less time here on this site in general. Do you think in his free time he's also just constantly talking about climate change?
Do you really not see my point? It's not even worth it trying to have a normal conversation with people that instantly discredit you as a retard before even getting into it. Extreme statements like "he hasn't even considered one single fact opposing his stance" just kind of reinforce that.. I mean how do you know?
I can say that too. Anyone can. How can spectral possibly believe in the fairytale of the Bible, he's not even CONSIDERING any facts that challenge his beliefs. How do I know that? I guess I don't.
Whatever lol. All's I'm saying is a discussion is hard to come by here and name-calling seems to be the go to, regardless of any 'facts and evidence' that either side on an issue presents.
Has anyone here ever changed their mind about something even remotely controversial, based off discussion here? Lol probably not or at least not that they would ever admit. -
2022-09-16 at 8:23 PM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ Has anyone here ever changed their mind about something even remotely controversial, based off discussion here? Lol probably not or at least not that they would ever admit.
See my "I'm going to buy a brand new set of tires thread"
Jiggaboo_johnson...leading hero when it comes to acceptance of change -
2022-09-16 at 8:26 PM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ Idk man just because he's posted a lot itt, he spends a lot less time here on this site in general. Do you think in his free time he's also just constantly talking about climate change?
Do you really not see my point? It's not even worth it trying to have a normal conversation with people that instantly discredit you as a retard before even getting into it. Extreme statements like "he hasn't even considered one single fact opposing his stance" just kind of reinforce that.. I mean how do you know?
I can say that too. Anyone can. How can spectral possibly believe in the fairytale of the Bible, he's not even CONSIDERING any facts that challenge his beliefs. How do I know that? I guess I don't.
Whatever lol. All's I'm saying is a discussion is hard to come by here and name-calling seems to be the go to, regardless of any 'facts and evidence' that either side on an issue presents.
Has anyone here ever changed their mind about something even remotely controversial, based off discussion here? Lol probably not or at least not that they would ever admit.
Fairy tale?
the entire contenants were ripped apart. there is also belief that there is far more ocean water beneath the ocean crust. it didn't just rain 40 days and nights straight. it pushed ocean water up from the floor of the oceans.
there is evidence in the deserts of the south west America and south America proving a massive flood took place with rocks sitting in the middle of the desert. though scientist will argue it happened slowly over time they have admitted a massive flood ocurance took place. a one in 10 thousand year flood -
2022-09-16 at 8:28 PM UTC
Originally posted by Murk Lore there is evidence in the deserts of the south west America and south America proving a massive flood took place with rocks sitting in the middle of the desert
You mean plate tectonics...yeah mountains used to be sea beds etc...that's not a sign of mass flooding though. It just means shits been moved around. -
2022-09-16 at 8:33 PM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ I've never much thought of obbe as a close-minded person, especially compared to the vast majority of users here. Sure maybe he's fixated on climate change and I mean, whatever right? It's not like he means ill will, and it's just one subject.
The reality is there's next to no reason to come here anymore actually expecting anyone to engage in a civil discussion about much of anything, to me basically because everyone is so dug into their beliefs and have been calling anyone who disagree a retard for so long, that it's way too humiliating to even consider a concession to ones own beliefs or at least openly admitting it. Folks just double down on whatever no matter what.
And of course that isn't exclusive to this site, it's pretty much everywhere.
I feel like I could come here and explain how healthy whole grain bread is compared to other breads, show my statistics and evidence, and I would almost assuredly get someone to laugh and say thats an unfair comparison because democrats own the nutritional industry and have a bias toward whole grain.
There's just no winning here. Everyone magically has an answer for everything. It's amazing how so many people with so many opposing viewpoints can all be completely right at the same time! lol
Constantly spouting obvious lies is not taking part in a "civil discussion". -
2022-09-16 at 8:44 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson I've found people who bandy the word "ignorant" around as a counter argument are usually the ignorant ones.
ETA: racial equity people like to use "ignorant" a lot along with "you lack education on other races and cultures"
…I'm still waiting for one to educate me on what I'm missing about nogs nogging.
Progressive liberals/Socialist have been labeling anyone who disagrees with them as uneducated since the 19th century. It's much harder to prove someone wrong with facts than it is to just say they are wrong because they're not smart like me. -
2022-09-16 at 8:44 PM UTC
Originally posted by Murk Lore I think that the global climate change is real.
but its not a tipping point. Nature does it over centuries. regardless of that LA posting we argued over. its a natural occuring thing. 500 years ago there was a water shortage. at the bottom of a stream in Europe someone wrote the year and in old english or welsh they wrote something that said something regarding mass famine to come.
so Im not contradicting myself. this is why
We as humans are adding to the "Nature does this naturally" arguement. Yes she will correct shit over a century or two but the way we burn through water allowing it to run while brushing our teeth or let it run when we're applying shampoo instead of turning it off. toilets flushing 2-3 gallons of fresh water (FUCKING LOL.. Why Didn't we also run ocean water into our toilet systems?) all of this and everyone in LA and Desert golf courses need a fucking lawn.
lawns seem awesome but take a ton of fertalizer and watering twice a day in the summer along with flooding it once a week to maintain a dark green lawn.
also never use the shortest level cut. lazy people cut it short so they dont have to cut it more than once a week. I would use the half setting and cut it twice a week. used less water because the sun didn't evaporate it out as fast
so We hitting 8 billion caused this with our western world habits of letting shit run on like a Scron post.
What makes think anyone values your opinion? -
2022-09-16 at 8:58 PM UTC
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2022-09-16 at 9:09 PM UTC
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2022-09-16 at 9:12 PM UTC
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2022-09-16 at 9:17 PM UTC
Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ "Up is down. Can't you see that??"
"No, it isn't. Shut the fuck up you lying clown."
"You're not being civil!"
Mmq: "Yeah! He could be right!"
If I showed you a liberal source that said up was down, you would probably find a way to dispute it lol. That's what I'm talking about. You're doing the very thing I just explained. Thank you.