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2022-08-28 at 2:48 PM UTCFormer Exxon scientist on oil giant's 1970s climate change research
"The scientists when I was there were making a genuine effort to understand the science. By the late 1970s, global warming was no longer speculative."
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2022-08-28 at 2:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe 1979 Exxon Memo on Potential Impact of Fossil Fuel Combustion
The deep state clearly planted those files in Exxon Mobile's internal system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExxonMobil_climate_change_controversy
I wonder why they have spent decades funding climate change denial?
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2022-08-28 at 2:50 PM UTCI don't understand why an oil company would want people to believe oil isn't driving climate change.
Just makes no sense. -
2022-08-28 at 3:01 PM UTC
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2022-08-28 at 3:07 PM UTC
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2022-08-28 at 3:09 PM UTC
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2022-08-28 at 3:19 PM UTC1989 Presentation to Exxon Board of Directors on Greenhouse Gas Effects
The presentation evidences Exxon’s shift from a leader in climate change research to an advocate against the dissemination of climate change information in the early 1990’s.
Instead of warning the public about global heating or taking action, fossil fuel companies stayed silent as long as they could. In the late 1980s, however, the world woke up to the climate crisis, marking what Exxon called a “critical event”. The fossil fuel industry’s PR apparatus swung into action, implementing a strategy straight out of big tobacco’s playbook: to weaponize science against itself.
A 1991 memo by Informed Citizens for the Environment made that strategy explicit: “Reposition global warming as theory (not fact).”In 1991, Informed Citizens for the Environment, a front group of coal and utility companies announced that “Doomsday is cancelled” and asked, “Who told you the earth was warming … Chicken Little?” They complained about “weak” evidence, “non-existent” proof, inaccurate climate models and asserted that the physics was “open to debate”.
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2022-08-28 at 3:20 PM UTC
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2022-08-28 at 3:21 PM UTCno
you just spent a while whining about me expressing a similar sentiment -
2022-08-28 at 3:24 PM UTC
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2022-08-28 at 3:26 PM UTCvery clever.
what changed your mind? why do you agree with me now? -
2022-08-28 at 3:29 PM UTC
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2022-08-28 at 3:45 PM UTC
Mobil and ExxonMobil ran one of the most comprehensive climate denial campaigns of all time, with a foray in the 1980s, a blitz in the 1990s and continued messaging through the late 2000s. Their climate “advertorials” – advertisements disguised as editorials – appeared in the op-ed page of the New York Times and other newspapers and were part of what scholars have called “the longest, regular (weekly) use of media to influence public and elite opinion in contemporary America”.
Between 1996 and 1998, for instance, Mobil ran 12 advertorials timed with the 1997 UN Kyoto negotiations that questioned whether the climate crisis is real and human-made and 10 that downplayed its seriousness. “Reset the alarm,” one ad suggested. “Let’s not rush to a decision at Kyoto … We still don’t know what role man-made greenhouse gases might play in warming the planet.”
“Exxon’s position”, instructed internal strategy memos from 1988-89, was to “extend the science” and “emphasize the uncertainty in scientific conclusions” about the climate crisis. Or as a 1998 “Action Plan” by Exxon, Chevron, API, utilities companies and others declared: “Victory will be achieved when average citizens” and the “media ‘understands’ (recognizes) uncertainties in climate science”.
ExxonMobil continued to fund climate denial through at least 2018. One of their 2004 advertorials claimed “scientific uncertainties” precluded “determinations regarding the human role in recent climate change”. That was untrue. Nine years earlier, the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change had concluded a “discernible human influence on global climate”. ExxonMobil’s chief climate scientist was a contributing author to the report. -
2022-08-28 at 3:46 PM UTC
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2022-08-28 at 3:47 PM UTC
Originally posted by Steven nobody cares, aldra
and that's the problem, smeeg
Nobody cares. And if nobody cares, whos gonna make the cookies? Mother Hen, as usual. And then all you and your little chicken friends are gonna come around saying Oh cheep cheep cheep I'm so hungry feed me feed me I loooove cookies so much. But
NOPE. if you didn't want to help find the wheat and make the dough, if you didn't wanna help putting in the chocolate chips or preheating the oven, didn't wanna help cooking them off or adding the baking soda, you don't get to eat them. You don't get to suddenly care. -
2022-08-28 at 3:51 PM UTC
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2022-08-28 at 3:53 PM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ and that's the problem, smeeg
Nobody cares. And if nobody cares, whos gonna make the cookies? Mother Hen, as usual. And then all you and your little chicken friends are gonna come around saying Oh cheep cheep cheep I'm so hungry feed me feed me I loooove cookies so much. But
NOPE. if you didn't want to help find the wheat and make the dough, if you didn't wanna help putting in the chocolate chips or preheating the oven, didn't wanna help cooking them off or adding the baking soda, you don't get to eat them. You don't get to suddenly care.
If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. -
2022-08-28 at 3:53 PM UTC
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