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2022-06-21 at 4:51 AM UTCLANNY'S A CUCK
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The Guardian
Donald Trump plotted fake electors scheme, January 6 panel set to show
Hugo Lowell
The House select committee investigating the January 6 Capitol attack is expected to show at its fourth hearing on Tuesday that Donald Trump and top advisers coordinated the scheme to send fake slates of electors as part of an effort to return him to the White House.
The panel is expected to also examine Trump’s campaign to pressure top officials in seven crucial battleground states to corruptly reverse his defeat to Joe Biden in the weeks and months after the 2020 election.
At the afternoon hearing, the select committee is expected to focus heavily on the fake electors scheme, which has played a large part in its nearly year-long investigation into Trump’s effort to overturn the results of the election at the state level.
The panel will show how the fake electors scheme – which may have been illegal – was the underlying basis for Trump’s unlawful strategy to have his vice-president, Mike Pence, refuse to certify Biden’s win in certain states and grant him a second term.
If the 2020 election cycle had been like any other when the electoral college convened on 14 December 2020 and Democratic electors attested to Biden’s victory over Trump, that would have marked the end of any post-election period conflict.
But that year, after the authorized Democratic electors met at statehouses to formally name Biden as president, in seven battleground states, illegitimate Republican electors arrived too, saying they had come to instead name Trump as president.
The Trump electors were turned away. However, they nonetheless proceeded to sign fake election certificates that declared they were the “duly elected and qualified” electors certifying Trump as the winner of the presidential election in their state.
The fake electors scheme was conceived in an effort to create “dueling” slates of electors that Pence could use to pretend the election was in doubt and refuse to formalize Biden’s win at the congressional certification on 6 January.
And, the select committee will show, the fake election certificates were in part manufactured by the Trump White House, and that the entire fake electors scheme was coordinated by Trump and his top advisers, including former chief of staff Mark Meadows.
“We will show evidence of the president’s involvement in this scheme,” congressman Adam Schiff, the select committee member leading the hearing alongside the panel’s chairman, Bennie Thompson, and vice-chair, Liz Cheney, said on CNN on Sunday.
Members of Trump’s legal team insist this is a distorted characterization of the scheme, saying the so-called alternate slates were put together and signed in case that states did re-certify their election results for Trump and they needed to be sent right away to Congress.
But that explanation is difficult to reconcile given Trump lawyer John Eastman admitted in a 19 December 2020 the Trump slates were “dead on arrival” if they were not certified, and yet still pushed Pence to reject Biden’s slates even though Trump slates were still not certified.
The fake electors scheme is important because it could be a crime. The justice department is investigating whether the Republicans who signed as electors for Trump could be charged with falsifying voting documents, mail fraud or conspiracy to defraud the United States.
If Trump was involved in the scheme, and the justice department pursues a case, then the former US president may also have criminal exposure. At least one federal grand jury in Washington is investigating the scheme and the involvement of top Trump election lawyers, including Rudy Giuliani.
The select committee is also set to closely focus on Trump’s pressure campaign on leading Republican state officials in the weeks and months after the election, according to a committee aide who previewed the hearing on a briefing call with reporters.
Among other key flash points that the panel intends to examine include Trump’s now-infamous 2 January 2021 call with Georgia secretary of state Brad Raffensperger – who will testify live at the hearing – when Trump asked him to “find” votes to make him win the election.
“I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have,” Trump said during the conversation, a tape of which was obtained by the Washington Post and House investigators working for the select committee.
The select committee will describe Trump pressuring other state officials to investigate election fraud claims his own White House and campaign lawyers knew were false, relying on testimony from Arizona House speaker Rusty Bowers.
And the panel will additionally hear testimony from Shaye Moss, a Georgia election worker in Fulton County, who was falsely accused by Giuliani and others of sneaking in “suitcases” of ballots for Biden – a conspiracy debunked by election officials. -
2022-06-21 at 3:35 PM UTCLANNY'S A CUCK
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Legal expert anticipates the next Jan. 6 hearing evidence — and predicts nothing can save Trump
Raw Story
By Sarah K. Burris
The House Select Committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on Congress and the plot to overthrow the 2020 election is set to meet again on Tuesday for a public hearing at 1 p.m. EST.
Speaking about the issues the committee will deal with, CNN legal expert Elie Honig noted that thus far, Americans have seen the way in which former President Donald Trump pressured Mike Pence and "weaponized the Justice Department." On Tuesday, Honig noted that the committee will show, among other things, how Trump pressured Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to magically "find" 11,780 votes so he could win the 2020 election.
"I think what we will see on Tuesday, the most audacious of all those efforts to get state officials to hand him their electoral votes," said Honig. "The Constitution tells us state legislatures do have the right to decide how they'll award their electoral votes, but the problem is they decided that many, many years ago, whoever wins the popular vote in the state gets all the electoral votes and Donald Trump quite aggressively thinks he can pick up the phone, call state officials and get them to flip that and hand him the electoral votes. And to the credit of those state-level officials, many Republicans, they said, no, that would violate the Constitution, violate our oaths. It would violate the law. Ultimately, this scheme really backfired and self-destructed in remarkable fashion."
Host Pamela Brown cited an ABC/Ipsos poll showing that 58 percent of Americans support charges against Trump after seeing just two hearings from the committee. That doesn't necessarily mean that prosecutors will form a decision based on that.
"DOJ and prosecutors are supposed to be separate from politics and from whatever the public thinks, but I do think the poll is interesting," Honig said. "I think it reflects the fact the committee has made a powerful evidentiary showing. The committee has given us new facts and re-established things we knew. Donald Trump tried to steal this election and most importantly, they've shown us inside Donald Trump's mind what prosecutors called intent. I think they've made a really powerful argument that he knew he had lost the election, that he knew there was no evidence of widespread election fraud, that he knew his legal schemes were completely unconstitutional and invalid. I think the committee has shown us a really strong foundation that prosecutors ought to be working off of."
Trump's defense has been that he believed legal experts who told him that the election was fraudulent. While many of his legal experts had advised him that the election couldn't be changed, even John Eastman confessed on Jan. 4, 2021, that the attempt to stop the certification on Jan. 6 wouldn't work. Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell were among the few maintaining that Trump could change the results.
"I think you've hit on what Donald Trump's defense will be. 'I'm entitled to believe who I want to believe,'" suggested Honig. "The comeback from prosecutors here is going to be something called willful blindness. As a prosecutor, you can prove intent in two ways: the person actually knew the truth, or the person was what we call willfully blind. Judges describe it as like an ostrich burying his head in the sand. I think the argument would be Donald Trump knew the truth. He understood what the real truth was, but he chose to shut out those people, the people Bill Stepien called 'Team Normal', and only listened to those who would tell him what he wanted to hear. There is an out route to get around the difficult question of how do you prove what someone knew. It's enough to say, okay, but he shut out certain input and only heard what he wanted to hear." -
2022-06-21 at 9:10 PM UTClooks like someone has cum to terms with being a full blown cum lickin faggot
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2022-06-21 at 9:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by stl1 "I think you've hit on what Donald Trump's defense will be. 'I'm entitled to believe who I want to believe,'" suggested Honig. "The comeback from prosecutors here is going to be something called willful blindness. As a prosecutor, you can prove intent in two ways: the person actually knew the truth, or the person was what we call willfully blind. Judges describe it as like an ostrich burying his head in the sand. I think the argument would be Donald Trump knew the truth. He understood what the real truth was, but he chose to shut out those people, the people Bill Stepien called 'Team Normal', and only listened to those who would tell him what he wanted to hear. There is an out route to get around the difficult question of how do you prove what someone knew. It's enough to say, okay, but he shut out certain input and only heard what he wanted to hear."
Interesting paragraph, bears careful study.
Basically jedis like Honig want to try all those who aren't on board with the right wing zionist shitlib agenda for "wilful blindness" to the truth - their truth.
jedis love the show trial. They used it a lot in their history. Even Christianity is at heart the story of a show trial. -
2022-06-21 at 11:33 PM UTCLANNY'S A CUCK
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Intelligencer
January 6 Committee Explores Trump’s Reign of Terror in Georgia
Ed Kilgore
The House Select Committee investigating the events of January 6 has already richly documented the emptiness of former President Trump’s election fraud claims; exposed the length and depth of his plan to overthrow the election results anyway; and shown again and again the central role of Trump and a small group of cronies in a criminal conspiracy to steal the presidency. On Tuesday, the Committee zeroed in on one specific arena where Trump concentrated much of his crusade of lies: my own home state of Georgia.
Tuesday’s hearing, the fourth, was billed as an examination of Trump’s efforts to pressure state and local elected officials to join his insurrectionary plot. The first witness, Arizona House Speaker Russell Bowers, was a Trump voter who came across as a deeply religious conservative Republican shocked to his core by the demands the ex-president and his cronies were placing on him in an effort to discredit Biden’s victory.
Anticipating the damage Bowers might do to his reputation, Trump went after him in a statement just before the hearing began, calling him (unconvincingly) a RINO and claiming that the legislator had earlier told him the election had been “rigged” in Arizona. The very dignified Bowers indignantly denied this claim when asked about it by the committee’s chief questioner at the hearing, Adam Schiff.
But the bulk of the hearing was a detailed look at Trump’s personal effort to stage an electoral coup in Georgia — another 2020 battleground state where the election machinery was firmly in the hands of Republicans who publicly refuted Trump’s lies. GOP Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and his chief operating officer (during the 2020 elections) Gabriel Sterling were led carefully by Schiff through a detailed and even redundant exposure of Team Trump’s false assertions about what happened in their state. Most of the lies involved a completely exploded claim that election workers in Democratic-controlled Fulton County (Atlanta) brought out “suitcases” of fake ballots — at least 13,000, Trump and Rudy Giuliani kept asserting — and had them counted late on election night.
Despite being told directly and indirectly by Georgia officials and by his own Attorney General that the claims were bunk, Trump made them the foundation of the famous January 2, 2021 phone call to Raffensperger, in which he demanded that the Secretary of State “find” him enough ballots to overturn Biden’s victory in Georgia. Schiff played excerpts from the call to allow terse commentary from Raffensperger about its outrageous nature. A local prosecutor has convened a grand jury to determine if Trump’s demands were criminal in nature.
The House Select Committee also spent some time documenting the direct and indirect threats Trump, his associates and his followers made to Georgia election officials as part of their pressure campaign. Sterling explained the background of his own sensational public plea to Trump on December 1, 2020 to call off the dogs, after he realized the extent of threats local election officials in Georgia were receiving from MAGA folk. (“Stop inspiring people to commit potential acts of violence. Someone is going to get hurt, someone is going to get shot, someone is going to get killed. And it’s not right.”) And in an emphatic conclusion to the hearing, the committee heard testimony from Shaye Moss, the innocent Fulton County election official who was at the heart of the MAGA Georgia conspiracy theory, and from her mother, Ruby Freeman, another election worker that Trump himself named as a villain 18 times in his conversation with Raffensperger. Both women were threatened extensively after being singled out by Trump and Giuliani. Moss regretted ever serving the public as an election worker, while Freeman was driven out of her home by threats. After being groundlessly called a “professional vote scammer and hustler” by Trump, Freeman said in searing taped testimony:
[Do]o you know how it feels to have the President of the United States target you? The president is supposed to represent every American, not to target one. But he targeted me, Lady Ruby, a small business owner, a mother, a proud American citizen who stood up to help Fulton County run an election in the middle of a pandemic.
So this particular hearing filled out our picture of Trump and his enablers as not simply liars and insurrectionists, but as bullies who went after anyone who got into his way. Raffensperger has already had his moment of vindication from Republican primary voters in Georgia who on May 24 spurned a Trump-generated effort to purge him. For other witnesses, the January 6 committee provided quite a megaphone. -
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2022-06-22 at 4:24 AM UTC
Originally posted by stl1 LANNY'S A CUCK
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Intelligencer
January 6 Committee Explores Trump’s Reign of Terror in Georgia
Ed Kilgore
The House Select Committee investigating the events of January 6 has already richly documented the emptiness of former President Trump’s election fraud claims; exposed the length and depth of his plan to overthrow the election results anyway; and shown again and again the central role of Trump and a small group of cronies in a criminal conspiracy to steal the presidency. On Tuesday, the Committee zeroed in on one specific arena where Trump concentrated much of his crusade of lies: my own home state of Georgia.
Tuesday’s hearing, the fourth, was billed as an examination of Trump’s efforts to pressure state and local elected officials to join his insurrectionary plot. The first witness, Arizona House Speaker Russell Bowers, was a Trump voter who came across as a deeply religious conservative Republican shocked to his core by the demands the ex-president and his cronies were placing on him in an effort to discredit Biden’s victory.
Anticipating the damage Bowers might do to his reputation, Trump went after him in a statement just before the hearing began, calling him (unconvincingly) a RINO and claiming that the legislator had earlier told him the election had been “rigged” in Arizona. The very dignified Bowers indignantly denied this claim when asked about it by the committee’s chief questioner at the hearing, Adam Schiff.
But the bulk of the hearing was a detailed look at Trump’s personal effort to stage an electoral coup in Georgia — another 2020 battleground state where the election machinery was firmly in the hands of Republicans who publicly refuted Trump’s lies. GOP Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and his chief operating officer (during the 2020 elections) Gabriel Sterling were led carefully by Schiff through a detailed and even redundant exposure of Team Trump’s false assertions about what happened in their state. Most of the lies involved a completely exploded claim that election workers in Democratic-controlled Fulton County (Atlanta) brought out “suitcases” of fake ballots — at least 13,000, Trump and Rudy Giuliani kept asserting — and had them counted late on election night.
Despite being told directly and indirectly by Georgia officials and by his own Attorney General that the claims were bunk, Trump made them the foundation of the famous January 2, 2021 phone call to Raffensperger, in which he demanded that the Secretary of State “find” him enough ballots to overturn Biden’s victory in Georgia. Schiff played excerpts from the call to allow terse commentary from Raffensperger about its outrageous nature. A local prosecutor has convened a grand jury to determine if Trump’s demands were criminal in nature.
The House Select Committee also spent some time documenting the direct and indirect threats Trump, his associates and his followers made to Georgia election officials as part of their pressure campaign. Sterling explained the background of his own sensational public plea to Trump on December 1, 2020 to call off the dogs, after he realized the extent of threats local election officials in Georgia were receiving from MAGA folk. (“Stop inspiring people to commit potential acts of violence. Someone is going to get hurt, someone is going to get shot, someone is going to get killed. And it’s not right.”) And in an emphatic conclusion to the hearing, the committee heard testimony from Shaye Moss, the innocent Fulton County election official who was at the heart of the MAGA Georgia conspiracy theory, and from her mother, Ruby Freeman, another election worker that Trump himself named as a villain 18 times in his conversation with Raffensperger. Both women were threatened extensively after being singled out by Trump and Giuliani. Moss regretted ever serving the public as an election worker, while Freeman was driven out of her home by threats. After being groundlessly called a “professional vote scammer and hustler” by Trump, Freeman said in searing taped testimony:
[Do]o you know how it feels to have the President of the United States target you? The president is supposed to represent every American, not to target one. But he targeted me, Lady Ruby, a small business owner, a mother, a proud American citizen who stood up to help Fulton County run an election in the middle of a pandemic.
So this particular hearing filled out our picture of Trump and his enablers as not simply liars and insurrectionists, but as bullies who went after anyone who got into his way. Raffensperger has already had his moment of vindication from Republican primary voters in Georgia who on May 24 spurned a Trump-generated effort to purge him. For other witnesses, the January 6 committee provided quite a megaphone.
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2022-06-22 at 3:39 PM UTCLANNY'S A CUCK
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The Guardian
‘A dangerous cancer’: fourth hearing revealed the human cost of Trump’s delusion
David Smith in Washington
Donald Trump was the most powerful man in the world. But he was also a paranoid fantasist who did not care how his lies destroyed people’s lives.
That was the picture of the former US president that came into focus with startling clarity at Tuesday’s hearing of the congressional committee investigating the January 6 attack on the US Capitol.
Dead people, shredded ballots and a USB drive that was in fact a ginger mint were all part of the delusional narrative of election fraud peddled by Trump and his lawyer Rudy Giuliani. They would have been as comical as flat-earthers but for the way they posed a danger to both individual citizens and American democracy.
“The president’s lie was and is a dangerous cancer on the body politic,” committee member Adam Schiff said at the hearing into how Trump pressured state officials to overturn overturn results.
It was worth remembering that Trump once boasted that he had passed a cognitive test by reciting the words, “Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV,” in the right order. And that, according to the Washington Post, he made 30,573 false or misleading claims during his four-year presidency.
Even on Tuesday, he was repeating the biggest lie of all. Just before the hearing he issued a statement claiming that witness Rusty Bowers, the speaker of the Arizona House of Representatives, told him “the election was rigged and I won Arizona”.
Bowers, a Republican who had wanted Trump to win the election, told the committee that this was false: “Anyone, anywhere, anytime I said the election was rigged, that would not be true.”
Bowers also recalled a conversation with Giuliani and lawyer Jenna Ellis about allegations of voter fraud in Arizona. In a phrase that captured the president’s own mindset, Giuliani allegedly said: “We’ve got lots of theories but we just don’t have the evidence.”
It’s turned my life upside down. I no longer give out my business card. I don’t transfer calls ... I just don’t do nothing anymore. I don’t want to go anywhere. I second-guess everything that I do
But the centerpiece of the big lie is Georgia, which Trump narrowly lost and which became his all-consuming obsession for wild conspiracy theories.
The committee heard testimony from its secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, and his deputy Gabe Sterling, who observed that competing against Trump’s false statements was like a “shovel trying to empty the ocean. I even had family members I had to argue with about some of these things.”
The Cannon Caucus Room resounded with Trump’s own voice from a 67-minute phone call with Raffensperger in which the president claimed the people of Georgia “know” he won the state by hundreds of thousands of voters.
Not true, Raffensperger told the committee definitively, explaining that Trump had “come up short”.
One by one, Trump could be heard making ludicrous assertions without foundation. One by one, Raffensperger and Sterling calmly demolished them.
The president was heard claiming that votes were “in what looked to be suitcases or trunks, suitcases but they weren’t in voter boxes”. Schiff asked: “Were they just the ordinary containers that are used by election workers?” Sterling testified: “They’re standard ballot carriers that allow for seals to be put on them so they’re tamper proof.”
Trump went on during the call: “But they dropped a lot of votes in there late at night. You know that, Brad.” Raffensperger told the committee: “There were no additional ballots accepted after 7pm.”
The president insisted: “The other thing, dead people. So dead people voted and I think the number is close to 5,000 people. And they went to obituaries. They went to all sorts of methods to come up with an accurate number and a minimum is close to about 5,000 voters.”
Raffensperger observed: “No, it’s not accurate … We found two dead people when I wrote my letter to Congress that’s dated January 6 and subsequent to that we found two more. That’s one, two, three, four people, not 4,000.”
More sinister yet, Trump claimed that election workers had been shredding ballots, “a criminal offense” that could put Raffensperger at risk. “So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state.”
Raffensperger told the hearing: “What I knew is we didn’t have any votes to find.”
Tuesday’s hearing spelled out how the big lie has caused hurt way beyond Washington on 6 January 2021. Trump told Raffensperger on the call: “When you talk about no criminality, I think it’s very dangerous for you to say that.”
The Georgia secretary of state took this as a threat. And sure enough, his family was targeted by Trump supporters.
“My email, my cell phone was doxxed and I was getting texts all over the country and then eventually my wife started getting texts. Hers typically came in as sexualized texts which were disgusting ... They started going after her I think just to probably put pressure on me: ‘Why don’t you quit and walk away.’”
He was far from alone.
In a deposition, Michigan secretary of state Jocelyn Benson talked about how her “stomach sunk” when she heard the sounds of protesters outside her home one night when she was putting her child to bed. She wondered if they had guns or were going to attack her house. “That was the scariest moment,” Benson said.
But no story better illustrated the callousness of Trump’s assault than Georgia election workers Wandrea “Shaye” Moss and her mother Ruby Freeman, two African American women described by committee chairman Bennie Thompson as “unsung heroes” of democracy.
Giuliani accused the pair of passing a USB drive to each other; Moss told the committee that her mother had actually been handing her a ginger mint. With astonishing cruelty, Trump was heard in a phone call describing Freeman as “a professional vote scammer and hustler”.
It was false but it was the cue for an onslaught of racist hatred from Trump supporters. Moss, nervous and at times shaking, recalled: “A lot of threats wishing death upon me. Telling me that, you know, I’ll be in jail with my mother and saying things like, ‘Be glad it’s 2020 and not 1920.”
Moss, who left her position, added in wrenching testimony: “It’s turned my life upside down. I no longer give out my business card. I don’t transfer calls. I don’t want anyone knowing my name. I’ve gained about 60 pounds. I just don’t do nothing anymore. I don’t want to go anywhere. I second-guess everything that I do.”
Her mother Ruby Freeman said in a deposition: “I’ve lost my name, and I’ve lost my reputation. I’ve lost my sense of security – all because a group of people ... scapegoat[ed] me and my daughter, Shaye, to push their own lies about how the presidential election was stolen.”
At the end of his call to Raffensperger, Trump could be heard saying: “It takes a little while but let the truth comes out.”
Now, finally, the truth is coming out, but not the one that occupies his fantasies. -
2022-06-22 at 4:25 PM UTCBiden is a fucking cheater
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2022-06-22 at 4:48 PM UTC"Destroy democracy" is such a buzz word
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2022-06-22 at 5:02 PM UTCBiden supporters never have anything to say to defend his record or ratings or actions, all they do is pull up shit about Trump and point to that instead. Like yeah we get it, that guy was a fucking dumbass too, but that's not the point.
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2022-06-22 at 5:13 PM UTCTrump lost by the way
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2022-06-22 at 10:10 PM UTCRoyal Glory-hole?
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