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2017-04-28 at 12:34 PM UTCYou're not a machine but there are certainly metaphorical similarities there.
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2017-04-28 at 1:08 PM UTCOk then I'll go first I guess. The big difference between a human mind and a computer is that while a modern CPU might have a few billion transistors, our brains have something like 100 trillion synapses. We're just more complex than any artificial machine because we've had billions of years to evolve naturally while machines have only been around for a couple thousand years.
The other obvious difference is that computers are created artificially using inorganic matter whereas living things are a naturally-occurring self-sustaining organic chemical reaction.
Now to your counter argumentThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-04-28 at 1:14 PM UTCI'll make it easier for you, just answer this. Other than being made of different stuff and having been around for longer, in what ways are we different from machines?The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-04-28 at 1:22 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-04-28 at 1:50 PM UTCDidn't read anything else than the OP mostly because I'm tired and can't be bothered. Considering that I suppose the question should also be asked if the spirit or soul is still the same? I don't see how a person could be the same if every single part of the brain was replaced but would the soul remain intact? These are the questions...
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2017-04-28 at 1:51 PM UTC
Originally posted by RestStop Didn't read anything else than the OP mostly because I'm tired and can't be bothered. Considering that I suppose the question should also be asked if the spirit or soul is still the same? I don't see how a person could be the same if every single part of the brain was replaced but would the soul remain intact? These are the questions…
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2017-04-28 at 2:59 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fox Paws Ok then I'll go first I guess. The big difference between a human mind and a computer is that while a modern CPU might have a few billion transistors, our brains have something like 100 trillion synapses. We're just more complex than any artificial machine because we've had billions of years to evolve naturally while machines have only been around for a couple thousand years.
The other obvious difference is that computers are created artificially using inorganic matter whereas living things are a naturally-occurring self-sustaining organic chemical reaction.
Now to your counter argument
A computer is incapable of generating a truly random result. Humans solved that before we moved out if caves. -
2017-04-28 at 3:04 PM UTC
Originally posted by Darth Beaver A computer is incapable of generating a truly random result. Humans solved that before we moved out if caves.
If you are truly capable of creating a truly random event, then you don't control anything, if it's truly random. Therefore your "energy" doesn't control anything.
Why do you identify with "energy" but not your body? Without your body, does your energy do anything? Is it conscious of anything? Is the energy you identify with the same energy that existed in the foods you've eaten? If so, why don't you control apples and potatoes?
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2017-04-28 at 3:07 PM UTC
Originally posted by Darth Beaver A computer is incapable of generating a truly random result. Humans solved that before we moved out if caves.
Again, human minds are more complex than modern computers because we've had a much longer amount of time to develop via evolution. Pretty soon computers will be able to do everything the human mind can and more. What you've stated is not an argument against humans as machines. All you've demonstrated is a difference in computational ability.
And by the way, the concept of "randomness" is invented anyway. Any current state of anything is a direct extrapolation of a previous state. -
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2017-04-28 at 3:10 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-04-28 at 3:11 PM UTC
Originally posted by Darth Beaver Any two year old can create a truly random outcome by simply flipping a coin or rolling a die 🎲
Flipping a die is not truly random. The outcome can be determined if all of the various variables are accounted for.
Why do you keep ignoring 90% of the post? Again, if you are truly capable of doing something that is truly random, then it's not something you had any control over. If you have control over something, it wasn't truly random. This is a pretty simple concept, old man.
Why do you identify with "energy" but not your body? Without your body, does your energy do anything? Is it conscious of anything? Is the energy you identify with the same energy that existed in the foods you've eaten? If so, why don't you control apples and potatoes? -
2017-04-28 at 3:13 PM UTC
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2017-04-28 at 3:14 PM UTC
Originally posted by Open Your Mind Flipping a die is not truly random. The outcome can be determined if all of the various variables are accounted for.
Why do you keep ignoring 90% of the post? Again, if you are truly capable of doing something that is truly random, then it's not something you had any control over. If you have control over something, it wasn't truly random. This is a pretty simple concept, old man.
Insulting me by calling me old man convinced me and everyone else that your opinion is more right than my opinion on something nobody can know for sure while they are still breathing. We'll played sir. I bow to your superior tactics. -
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