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2022-04-08 at 9:09 PM UTC
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2022-04-08 at 9:26 PM UTC
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2022-04-09 at 12:12 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny Well as mentioned numerous times, hormonal therapies do empirically reduce suicidality in people who identify as trans. Uhh so yeah, you’re just wrong bud, it’s a medical intervention that does in fact treat a condition.
Is there a source for this? I've seen like 50 articles that say 50% of trannys will try to kill themselves and like 15% succeed, never seen anything empirically that says hormone therapy objectively reduces depression.
I've got several friends who have either had hormone therapy or have had to take estrogen blockers because of adolescent steroid use. Before anyone tries to make a false equivalent I want to point out that THEY ARE FUCKED WITH HUGE NIPPLES, RECEDING HAIRLINES, EMOTIONAL INSTABILITY AND BODY DYSMORPHIA BECAUSE OF TAKING SYNTHETIC HORMONES AS TEENAGERS/YOUNG ADULTS
Taking steroids is kinda the Bro equivalent of playing God with your chromosomes/DNA too, the difference is science is working on regulating it but any "scientist" whose job it is trying to find a way to make confused teens more comfortable from a sexual standpoint is a wasted life.
There are root causes and systemic issues that cause effeminate teens to think they're a different gender but people don't want to have that conversation. Reminds me of this chubby girl who cut herself who used to hang around my buddy's place: she was raised by two lesbians and went 5o a private Buddhist school where you design your own workload and choose your own name. She had a breakdown in her late teens and realized she wasn't a lesbian and wanted to be kinda traditional but it was a scary, rebellious time for her. We talked about Lana del ray alot because she loved her and her traditional values and straight forward chamber pop hetero love songs. Her dyke moms hated her I'm sure and would punish her with Ani DiFranco -
2022-04-09 at 2:08 PM UTC
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2022-04-09 at 2:40 PM UTCif want to be another gender that is NOT NORMAL there is a fetish for wanting to wear chicks clothes but wanting to physically be a different gender is a very strange and not normal mental state.
I've pretended to be a girl online and had long hair and worn girls clothes before but enjoy having a penis and being myself. The idea of not just accepting your body for what it is in sexual terms is very weird to me
It's like a girl that wants bigger tits. Yeah you could get implants but everyone will know. and they think "couldn't I just be born hot and not so ugly that I require surgery to be attractive". It's like an elderly woman getting a tit job so she can feel sexy again, does anyone get upset at them?
Plastic surgery for emotional sexual problems in WOMENS health has been pushed on society as long as I know, This is the result -
2022-04-09 at 2:53 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny Limp wristed deflection because you’re out of energy for retarded back pedaling
to be fair what you claimed was more of a correlation than causation.
people who seek intervention also got advices, human support and counselings and soothing words than individuals who did not.
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2022-04-09 at 2:59 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo Is there a source for this? I've seen like 50 articles that say 50% of trannys will try to kill themselves and like 15% succeed, never seen anything empirically that says hormone therapy objectively reduces depression.
There is! I’m glad you asked, I was kinda surprised at the finding myself. Here’s the direct link: https://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X(21)00568-1/fulltext which is also the first cite in the document the Fox News article was talking about, of the three I’m guessing jiggs has read none. If you don’t want to read the whole thing here’s the highlight:Use of GAHT was associated with lower odds of recent depression (adjusted odds ratio [aOR] = .73, p < .001) and seriously considering suicide (aOR = .74, p < .001) compared to those who wanted GAHT but did not receive it. For youth under age 18, GAHT was associated with lower odds of recent depression (aOR = .61, p < .01) and of a past-year suicide attempt (aOR = .62, p < .05).
There are root causes and systemic issues that cause effeminate teens to think they're a different gender but people don't want to have that conversation.
I think that’s fair although it’s a more nuanced conversation that’s hard to have over the sounds of partisan screeching.
Hot take: if our society didn’t hold to repressive gender roles and you could just do what you wanted you’d get a lot fewer people screaming about pronouns.
Like it’s not a generally acceptable position on the left, but I do think a substantial level of transgenderism stems from a bid to use gender roles to legitimize their character. Like if you’re a dude that doesn’t fit the social image of what a man should be one response you can have is “well I’m a woman”, and the sad state of things is you’ll probably find more social support doing that then being an effeminate cis man.
So I think it’s totally legitimate to ask “is the increase in transgenderism a consequence of a deeper social malady”. But if we’re talking about a clinical setting where you have someone who’s expressed that they want a hormonal therapy, there is decent evidence that giving them that intervention is going to reduce their odds of depression or suicide. So if the goal of the medical field is, you know, reducing human suffering or saving lives then hormonal therapies are absolutely legitimate therapeutic options -
2022-04-09 at 3:39 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny Like if you’re a dude that doesn’t fit the social image of what a man should be one response you can have is “well I’m a woman”, and the sad state of things is you’ll probably find more social support doing that then being an effeminate cis man.
blames traditional gender role and patriarchy for tranny phenomenon.
how do you explain this.
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2022-04-09 at 4:27 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny There is! I’m glad you asked, I was kinda surprised at the finding myself. Here’s the direct link: https://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X(21)00568-1/fulltext which is also the first cite in the document the Fox News article was talking about, of the three I’m guessing jiggs has read none. If you don’t want to read the whole thing here’s the highlight:
I think that’s fair although it’s a more nuanced conversation that’s hard to have over the sounds of partisan screeching.
Hot take: if our society didn’t hold to repressive gender roles and you could just do what you wanted you’d get a lot fewer people screaming about pronouns.
Like it’s not a generally acceptable position on the left, but I do think a substantial level of transgenderism stems from a bid to use gender roles to legitimize their character. Like if you’re a dude that doesn’t fit the social image of what a man should be one response you can have is “well I’m a woman”, and the sad state of things is you’ll probably find more social support doing that then being an effeminate cis man.
So I think it’s totally legitimate to ask “is the increase in transgenderism a consequence of a deeper social malady”. But if we’re talking about a clinical setting where you have someone who’s expressed that they want a hormonal therapy, there is decent evidence that giving them that intervention is going to reduce their odds of depression or suicide. So if the goal of the medical field is, you know, reducing human suffering or saving lives then hormonal therapies are absolutely legitimate therapeutic options
That seems like a well funded and rather exhaustive study but they could have done a correlation regression analysis between other factors. The biggest factor in depression was parental affirmation (of the hormone treatment or of their gender identity) and they didn't see if this was correlated ,nor did they see how much of an effect gender based violence had on their depression. Idk why they didn't do a correlation analysis of these factors, maybe they did and didn't find them to be statistically significant idk. I haven't done stats in a while but those are just a couple things that stuck out at me.
I definitely agree that more treatment options for dissatisfied and depressed teens with identity issues need to be addressed. If we are going to talk about what kids benefit from hormone therapy and what kids are adversely affected by it (taking into consideration the general scientific consensus "don't fuck with a developing kids hormones unless medically necessary") then there needs to be more studies of the matter Instead of just anecdotes a out how Jenny felt better after getting a penis vs Timmy felt worse years later after cutting it off.
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2022-04-09 at 4:29 PM UTC
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2022-04-09 at 4:30 PM UTC
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2022-04-09 at 4:34 PM UTCI don't support gender modification surgury beyond removin gthe testicals cuz otherwise what's the point
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2022-04-09 at 4:39 PM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood if want to be another gender that is NOT NORMAL there is a fetish for wanting to wear chicks clothes but wanting to physically be a different gender is a very strange and not normal mental state.
I've pretended to be a girl online and had long hair and worn girls clothes before but enjoy having a penis and being myself. The idea of not just accepting your body for what it is in sexual terms is very weird to me
It's like a girl that wants bigger tits. Yeah you could get implants but everyone will know. and they think "couldn't I just be born hot and not so ugly that I require surgery to be attractive". It's like an elderly woman getting a tit job so she can feel sexy again, does anyone get upset at them?
Plastic surgery for emotional sexual problems in WOMENS health has been pushed on society as long as I know, This is the result -
2022-04-09 at 6:22 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny
blames traditional gender role and patriarchy for tranny phenomenon.
how do you explain this.
How do you explain that this very same thing has been happening in the military and throughout society since the 70's, 50's, 20's, 1800's and beyond. None of this is new it is actually very old but the current outage of people acting like this is some new phenomenon is fucked.
Like have these people never looked at the back of a skin mag and seen the "TSTV" ads before? THEY SURE AREN'T ADVERTISING TELEVISIONS I'lL TELL YOU THAT MUCH!
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2022-04-10 at 3:19 AM UTC
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2022-04-10 at 4 AM UTC
https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/calvin-klein-pride-campaign-jari-jones-trend/index.html
Kari Jones is a proud transgender modeal. -
2022-04-10 at 4:23 AM UTCi'm sure someone in this world would love her
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2022-04-11 at 2:59 PM UTC
Originally posted by Donald Trump
i never really give this trannies issue a deep thought beyong how fuckable theyre until now and i think i see a pattern here.
all these boys who turn into girls seems to have ONE thing in common, A STRONG, DOMINANT MOTHER FIGURE WHO IS ALSO THE BREAD WINNER OF THEIR HOUSEHOLD.
except with brad pitt.
these boys probably all have weak, financially and socially emasculated father figure who made a fraction of their mothers. imagine growing up watching your dad and his circle of nobody friemds and your mom with all the rich and famous elites and hollywood a-lists on a first name basis.
i think, and believe most boys who grew up in a household with strong, dominant mothers that is also the dominant bread winner of their family are goimg to turn into trainnies unless they manage to get a strong, masculine and dominant surrogate father figure elsewhere, irl or in fictional entertainments and games -
2022-04-11 at 3 PM UTC
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2022-04-11 at 3:02 PM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood How do you explain that this very same thing has been happening in the military and throughout society since the 70's, 50's, 20's, 1800's and beyond. None of this is new it is actually very old but the current outage of people acting like this is some new phenomenon is fucked.
show me a picture of a WW1 tranny soldier.