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2022-03-05 at 5:48 AM UTC
Originally posted by SEGA Nigga Drive I never knew western people had such a problem with grief, apparently it's way more of a western problem that people get hung up on death and shit for months and years and stuff, get hung up on their pictures etc.
In the east there is a general sense that life is like a box, you put stuff in it and then you close it up. Then that's wrapped up. Even if you don't particularly believe in heaven, the attitude is the same. Some smaller groups have "death memorials" and stuff and they are considered weird.
I think it’s more of a secularized society thing than a occidental thing. Religious practices give some kind of direction to the grieving process, a general framework of what happens not so much in the “here’s what happened to your loved one” sense, although that too, but just like “here are the things you do, here’s the timeline, here’s the stuff you continue to do after a grieving period”.
What do we have in an industrialized secular world? You have to organize a funeral you don’t really have any compelling reason to conduct, then it’s like you just go back into the world with no narrative of the person’s life, no framework within which to understand the loss, and no process to work though that. We kinda just abandon people to figure it out on their own or maybe with the help of some cringe self help books.
Like I don’t love Christian/European funeral traditions but at least it’s _some_ kind of social script to follow as opposed to just kinda sitting around wondering what the appropriate thing to do is.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2022-03-05 at 5:52 AM UTCIn my experience you just drink about it and self destruct for about a year. Then you get some therapy and one day the ball stops hitting the button as often.
https://psychcentral.com/blog/coping-with-grief-ball-and-box-analogyThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2022-03-05 at 1:08 PM UTC
Originally posted by Incessant In my experience you just drink about it and self destruct for about a year. Then you get some therapy and one day the ball stops hitting the button as often.
https://psychcentral.com/blog/coping-with-grief-ball-and-box-analogy
That's the thing though... That would be like a completely insane person's reaction in many eastern countries and your whole family would be blowing up your phone trying to help you and offer you food and shit.
Whereas going and getting shitfaced and bawling for weeks and being internally emotionally destroyed and shit, in the west, seems like it's a "yeah that do be happenin sometimes, they'll get over it... Or maybe not but that do be happenin too". -
2022-03-05 at 1:09 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny I think it’s more of a secularized society thing than a occidental thing. Religious practices give some kind of direction to the grieving process, a general framework of what happens not so much in the “here’s what happened to your loved one” sense, although that too, but just like “here are the things you do, here’s the timeline, here’s the stuff you continue to do after a grieving period”.
What do we have in an industrialized secular world? You have to organize a funeral you don’t really have any compelling reason to conduct, then it’s like you just go back into the world with no narrative of the person’s life, no framework within which to understand the loss, and no process to work though that. We kinda just abandon people to figure it out on their own or maybe with the help of some cringe self help books.
Like I don’t love Christian/European funeral traditions but at least it’s _some_ kind of social script to follow as opposed to just kinda sitting around wondering what the appropriate thing to do is.
This post reminded me of a really nice Dan Dennett talks, relevant to this subject:
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2022-03-05 at 1:14 PM UTCmourning are for beta soybhoises, weaklings andd womens
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2022-03-05 at 1:54 PM UTCI eat pieces of shit for breakfast
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2022-03-05 at 2:04 PM UTCFuck I'm made!
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2022-03-05 at 2:27 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny no native country.
no fatherland.
no racial purity.
no cultural pride.
Mongoloid creative writing^
Here, let me state some facts again:
- You are unemployable and your most prestigious job was transporting coffee to tables.
- You are poor and cannot afford a car.
- You have no social life. You have no woman. You have no friends.
- You have received no higher education and seemingly subpar primary education, because if my next point,
- You are functionally illiterate and can't form coherent sentences,
- You can't communicate intelligent thoughts in English so you try to disguise that by acting like a retarded asshole. I.e. you have an repulsive personality built on insecurity. You're not edgy, you are cringe but you don't realize it.
- You are an actual, not-as-a-joke, living pedophile who fucks kids. -
2022-03-05 at 7:38 PM UTC
Originally posted by RIPtotse Dude ur fine, your supposed to honor and remember thr ones you loved the most in this world. I literally think about my grandpa every single day. I have a little shrine set up but it's not just for him but basically my spirituality as a whole, which he happens to be a part of. There are a couple friends, one in particular, that I literally think about at least every other day and I think this is just the connection of the collective consciousness in the world that we are all living for and experiencing life for. Your life is literally so that the humans after you gain from your DNA and your experiences in order to survive better and evolve.
I consider myself agnostic but I very heavily believe in Occult ideas, ritual Magick, the power of meditation/prayer/thought, and the connection we have on every level from astrologically to divine geometry to demonology to controlled breathing techniques. I think that "God" is the answer to the unknowns in science today and will lead us unto a higher level of consciousness and understanding. There is a reason the catholic church ceremony is performed the way it is just as much as there is a reason why freemasons perform different ceremonies. Everything in this world is energy and there is no matter, it's all energy. Everything you do and everything anyone has done in this world, literally everything, is all just energy. We are all connected through this energy and are essentially one collective consciousness all experiencing life on different levels. This is true for anyone living in any "space-time", or plane of existence. Time is just relative to you in your world, not necessarily other beings who perceive these energy frequencies differently. I believe that children, particularly younger than 4-5 basically when you start having your first memories, are more susceptible to this unknown energy or frequency. That's why they see things adults don't sometimes. I think the powers that be are keen to this knowledge as well and have systematically dulled our "enlightenment" abilities through everyday life by ways of food/water supply and possibly through wifi/radio/sattellite/saturn-moon matrix.
Basically you will forever have a connection to your dad like this so start using it for the better, and also you will make more connections in due time. Time is the ultimate healer and I promise you any issue you think this is giving you just give it time and it will get better, guaranteed.
Or maybe I'm just an idiot
It doesn't matter what a person believes as long as they believe they are somehow "answerable" for their actions. Even if you believe the chair you are sitting in is the "higher power" so long as you think you will have to account for you actions to the chair when you shuffle of this mortal coil you won't be too much of a dick. -
2022-03-05 at 8:26 PM UTC
Originally posted by SEGA Nigga Drive That's the thing though… That would be like a completely insane person's reaction in many eastern countries and your whole family would be blowing up your phone trying to help you and offer you food and shit.
Whereas going and getting shitfaced and bawling for weeks and being internally emotionally destroyed and shit, in the west, seems like it's a "yeah that do be happenin sometimes, they'll get over it… Or maybe not but that do be happenin too".
How do you know where I came from or what my family did? I like you, but you can make arrogant assumptions sometimes. -
2022-03-05 at 8:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker It doesn't matter what a person believes as long as they believe they are somehow "answerable" for their actions. Even if you believe the chair you are sitting in is the "higher power" so long as you think you will have to account for you actions to the chair when you shuffle of this mortal coil you won't be too much of a dick.
I feel enlightened reading htisThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2022-03-05 at 9:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by Incessant How do you know where I came from or what my family did? I like you, but you can make arrogant assumptions sometimes.
I didn't assume anything, I'm commenting on how what you're describing is generally a more common thing in the west and isn't considered as abnormal as in the east. It doesn't mean 100% of people on the west and east are like X or Y. -
2022-03-05 at 10:09 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson I was just going through some boxes last night looking for a 7.5 VDC adapter I KNOW I have but couldn't find it..the sense of loss is huge.
If it helps you in some small way, if you look hard enough you often find devices will tolerate a range of voltages, say 6-9 VDC, and perhaps another adapter might offer some consolation.
