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gabapentin is my god
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2017-04-21 at 1:31 AM UTC
Originally posted by Darth Beaver Dude, there are guys in their 20's all the way to their 80'# at the VA. Don't even go there…
NO U DONT EVEN GO THERE!
you know what I'm talking about though. I'm 29 and a lot of other guys my age aren't complaining about having eye problems from gabapentin..
a lot of drugs / alcohol mess with peoples eyes, until you show me a study where gabapentin is one of the top 20 percent proven drugs to cause eye problems, I'm just going to have to say you are trying to prove a point with out actually having a point.. you haven't even stated if you have ever even had those negative effects yourself..
there are tons of drugs in the military illegal and legal that are prescribed by their dr's, during service and after service.. Adderall is one for sure that messes with your eyes.. you can get into the army and say you don't have add and then after your in say you have add and get prescribed it, at least 10 years ago.
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2017-04-21 at 1:37 AM UTC
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2017-04-21 at 1:40 AM UTCI have to do the lic
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2017-04-21 at 1:50 AM UTCI'm just saying with all the crack, meth, anti psychotics, bath salts, alcohol, benzos a lot of people consume all day errr day i highly doubt people are becoming gabapentin addicts and going blind from it.. especially in their early twenties..
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2017-04-21 at 2 AM UTChow is that gonna get me laid though
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2017-04-21 at 2:45 AM UTC
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2017-04-21 at 2:49 AM UTC
Originally posted by Bill Krozby psshhh… most drugs effect your vision in the long run, but I doubt gabapentin is as insidious as most.
When you first take it, or adjust to a higher dose.. gabapentin (for a "non narcotic") fucks with your vision. It doesn't make it like double vision like drugs or alcohol do, it fucks with your near side vision. I require cheaters anyways but this really fucks with anything 2 feet and less from my eyes to read. it however makes you chatty.. I think the name of gab is because it affects that part of the brain which makes people caddy . I annoy people sometimes but I don't mean too. it even makes me type tl:dr shit.
You wanna be gabby friends? -
2017-04-21 at 2:50 AM UTC
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2017-04-21 at 2:58 AM UTC
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2017-04-21 at 3:21 AM UTCno negativity sry doug
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2017-04-21 at 3:23 AM UTC
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2017-04-21 at 3:43 AM UTC
Originally posted by Bill Krozby I'm just saying with all the crack, meth, anti psychotics, bath salts, alcohol, benzos a lot of people consume all day errr day i highly doubt people are becoming gabapentin addicts and going blind from it.. especially in their early twenties..
Quote anywhere ITT where anyone said blind? Like I said dude, let it go. I'm a vet. You're not. I'm telling you what is happening to people's vision at the VA from taking prescribed doses long term. They are experiencing moderate to severe vision issues regardless if age. You made a statement based solely on anecdotal evidence collected from casual conversations with some older vets that you are acquainted with. I'm telling you what I'm seeing at hospitals and clinics in both the James A. Haley and Louis Stokes VA regions over the last 20 plus years. And a base of anecdotal evidence that far outweighs what you have described. So cmon, find a softer target and let this one go. -
2017-04-21 at 3:48 AM UTC
Originally posted by Totse 2001 When you first take it, or adjust to a higher dose.. gabapentin (for a "non narcotic") fucks with your vision. It doesn't make it like double vision like drugs or alcohol do, it fucks with your near side vision. I require cheaters anyways but this really fucks with anything 2 feet and less from my eyes to read. it however makes you chatty.. I think the name of gab is because it affects that part of the brain which makes people caddy . I annoy people sometimes but I don't mean too. it even makes me type tl:dr shit.
You wanna be gabby friends?
I've been taking gaba for like 6 years off and on and yeah at first it would make me hallucinate but I haven't had that issue anymore. but yeah it does make me "chatty" for sure to this day. -
2017-04-21 at 3:51 AM UTC
Originally posted by Darth Beaver Quote anywhere ITT where anyone said blind? Like I said dude, let it go. I'm a vet. You're not. I'm telling you what is happening to people's vision at the VA from taking prescribed doses long term. They are experiencing moderate to severe vision issues regardless if age. You made a statement based solely on anecdotal evidence collected from casual conversations with some older vets that you are acquainted with. I'm telling you what I'm seeing at hospitals and clinics in both the James A. Haley and Louis Stokes VA regions over the last 20 plus years. And a base of anecdotal evidence that far outweighs what you have described. So cmon, find a softer target and let this one go.
all I know is my vision is fine from taking it... ive been taking it for years, and it only messed with my vision at first. like i remember waking up one time and my daughters mom was yelling at me asking me whats wrong with me and I couldn't remember who she was , she looked different.. and that was about it... it also used to affect my since of balance.. big time.. doesn't do that anymore no matter how much I take. I once took 90 300mg's and drank and smoked weed on top of it and i was able to drive fine.. -
2017-04-21 at 5:33 AM UTC
Originally posted by Bill Krozby all I know is my vision is fine from taking it… ive been taking it for years, and it only messed with my vision at first. like i remember waking up one time and my daughters mom was yelling at me asking me whats wrong with me and I couldn't remember who she was , she looked different.. and that was about it… it also used to affect my since of balance.. big time.. doesn't do that anymore no matter how much I take. I once took 90 300mg's and drank and smoked weed on top of it and i was able to drive fine..
OK, again that is anecdotal evidence. I believe that you have been taking it as stated. I also believe that it has not affected your vision (yet). Just like mild side effects that are common nit everyone is susceptible. My point is the risks are shown, over the last 24 years, to outweigh the benefits the way it is used at the VA. -
2017-04-21 at 1:03 PM UTC
Originally posted by Darth Beaver OK, again that is anecdotal evidence. I believe that you have been taking it as stated. I also believe that it has not affected your vision (yet). Just like mild side effects that are common nit everyone is susceptible. My point is the risks are shown, over the last 24 years, to outweigh the benefits the way it is used at the VA.
Works better with tea (caffeinated. I recommend a nice strong Irish breakfast) or really strong coffee. So give it to the Vets with some espressos and such. they deserve better for putting themselves in harms way for the "Man". Fuck you Dick Cheney you fat rich cunt -
2017-04-21 at 1:22 PM UTC
Originally posted by Totse 2001 Works better with tea (caffeinated. I recommend a nice strong Irish breakfast) or really strong coffee. So give it to the Vets with some espressos and such. they deserve better for putting themselves in harms way for the "Man". Fuck you Dick Cheney you fat rich cunt
Hate on the military industrial machine, hate on the politicians who send our forces on the fat cats errands, hate on the mission, but if anyone hates on the troops serving or who have served they would be well advised to do it behind the safety of their keyboard well out of the reach of my deadly cane. We're it not for 242 years of men and woman who signed a blank check payable up to and including their lives you wouldn't have the luxury of hating anything you were not permitted to. -
2017-04-21 at 1:27 PM UTCHey you're a cool guy DB
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