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Shadow Courts on the Dark Web
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2021-12-18 at 3:46 PM UTC
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2021-12-18 at 4 PM UTCI haven't heard about it for ransomware but I have heard it being used as a small claims court for arbitration against rugpulling pajeet shitcoiners that scam their bag holders but want to save their reputation.
I guess if you are just scamming people there is no point but if some shit goes wrong and you don't want to be at the mercy of the internet you could do the court and walk out as a "free man" or one that has to pay people fines and shit. How do they enforce restitution though like if the person says they will pay everyone back and then they don't?
I suppose public opinion is the motivator. I believe in industry self regulation and social media as technology for a capitalist utopia. People think corporate power will lead to abuse of power but a technology like this has the potential to solve the age old problem of power abuse in civil society
Court cases are very hot topics because everyone has a natural human instinct to look in and take an interest in "what to do with that person" that broke the law. I think it leads people to the conclusion that most laws are bullshit and that the only real "crime" is infringing on someone else's right to exist freely without harm
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2021-12-18 at 9:09 PM UTC
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2021-12-18 at 9:39 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra people aren't bothering to check for persistent backdoors just because they got a positive result in the 'courts'?
no, instead of promoting cracked software etc on the dark web, and then when someone buys it have it do a ransomware attack, just sell them the actual cracked software with a backdoor inside, most wont check, or you have have a dormitory style malware that waits a few weeks, months etc until it starts to infect the persons pc. that way its less likely they will try to have the court..
either way the court is still stupid so my rebuttal is a bit pointless anyways. i was just playing devils advocate and saying there are options to fuck with people other than a ransomware attack as soon as they download the software. -
2021-12-20 at 1:36 PM UTC
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2021-12-20 at 1:37 PM UTC
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2021-12-20 at 1:38 PM UTC
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2021-12-20 at 1:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by maddie no, instead of promoting cracked software etc on the dark web
eh? I think we are using term "dark web" loosely here...cracked software is readily available on the "light" web. Dark web is for selling people, guns, drugs, assassinations etc...not for selling cracked copies of angry birds. -
2021-12-20 at 1:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson ? how does that make the sysadmin and techs darkweb users?
Any sysadmin worth his salt will have a backup he can restore from rather than having to go through some darkweb "court" shit show.
it's more complicated than that
even if you have full backups in a current and usable state it's often very difficult to restore them in-place without major downtime. if there's a way to simply decrypt the data it's ideal; if you can find a way to drive the price down or bypass it entirely all the better.
there's a reason big businesses pay up so often -
2021-12-20 at 1:55 PM UTC
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2021-12-20 at 1:55 PM UTCHalf the time when they go to restore their backups they find out their backups don't work or are unusable for some reason.
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2021-12-20 at 1:57 PM UTC
Originally posted by Donald Trump Half the time when they go to restore their backups they find out their backups don't work or are unusable for some reason.
If you are backing up correctly you keep multiple copies, ours go back 90 days...if day 87 doesn't work, you try day 85 etc.
Either way the sysadmin isn't going to resort to some bullshit 'dark web' arbitration as Aldra suggested -
2021-12-20 at 2:05 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson That reason usually boils down to incompetence and running systems/software that is way out of date and unsecured.
double strength duh
it's usually impossible to enforce secure policy because nobody takes it more seriously than convenience and most businesses run shitty proprietary software from 20 years ago
and MS can't/won't fundamentally change their shitty security paradigms because they don't want to lose that market share. remember the tantrums when Vista introduced user/privilege level separation?
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Either way the sysadmin isn't going to resort to some bullshit 'dark web' arbitration as Aldra suggested
we already agreed that the court idea is dumb, but most malware spreaders communicate through tor and trade in crypto
your question was "What kind of darkweb user falls victim to ransomware?"
retard end users do, sysadmins often have to go there to resolve itThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-12-20 at 2:24 PM UTC
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2021-12-20 at 2:29 PM UTCI'm not interested in playing your gay semantics games, try captain falcon
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2021-12-20 at 2:30 PM UTC
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2021-12-20 at 4:12 PM UTC
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2021-12-20 at 4:14 PM UTC"I bought a $1000 mystery box off the darkweb"
Tune in to see a vial of blood, a doll missing an eye and a USB drive. -
2021-12-20 at 4:16 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny the unlucky ones.
Luck has nothing to do with it, if you're an idiot and don't know what you are doing. Don't have the ability to read/interpret the source code of whatever it is that you are purchasing, fail to take precautions and suck at RE, then it's not so much a matter of luck as it is a matter of incompetence.
Imagine if i posted a heavily obfuscated Shell Script, and i told you it did X, would you just blindly trust me and run it?
If a person is a Black Hat they should know that all other Black hats are just as much their potential adversaries as anyone. -
2021-12-20 at 4:26 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie Luck has nothing to do with it, if you're an idiot and don't know what you are doing. Don't have the ability to read/interpret the source code of whatever it is that you are purchasing, fail to take precautions and suck at RE, then it's not so much a matter of luck as it is a matter of incompetence.
Imagine if i posted a heavily obfuscated Shell Script, and i told you it did X, would you just blindly trust me and run it?
If a person is a Black Hat they should know that all other Black hats are just as much their potential adversaries as anyone.
maybe i would.
i've bought a few fake stuffs online simply because i was gambling on the chances that the seller could be authentically honest, decent person.
