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  1. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Our brains simulate reality. So, our every day experiences are a form of dreaming, which is to say, they are mental models, simulations, not the things they appear to be.
  2. Things are only as real as the electrical and chemical impulses in your head tell you it is. You have no way of actually confirming reality is what it appears to be. You have to trust your senses.
  3. Tyrant African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Obbe Our brains simulate reality. So, our every day experiences are a form of dreaming, which is to say, they are mental models, simulations, not the things they appear to be.

    Nah they don't simulate reality, in fact we have immediate and veridical access to reality.
  4. Tyrant African Astronaut
    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ Things are only as real as the electrical and chemical impulses in your head tell you it is. You have no way of actually confirming reality is what it appears to be. You have to trust your senses.

    Nah the world around us is real and we have direct awareness of it and immediate access to it, it's objectively real and real for good.
  5. Originally posted by Tyrant Nah the world around us is real and we have direct awareness of it and immediate access to it, it's objectively real and real for good.

    When you "see" something, that's only your optical nerves and brain telling you what you should see, not what's really there. When you "touch" something, that's only the nerves in your fingers relaying information your brain, to tell you what you should feel. All the information you receive is second hand and not first hand information.
  6. Tyrant African Astronaut
    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ When you "see" something, that's only your optical nerves and brain telling you what you should see, not what's really there. When you "touch" something, that's only the nerves in your fingers relaying information your brain, to tell you what you should feel. All the information you receive is second hand and not first hand information.

    No our very optical nerves themselves are conscious.
  7. So the nerves themselves are intelligent and all-knowing.
  8. Tyrant African Astronaut
    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ So the nerves themselves are intelligent and all-knowing.

    No they just have immediate access to reality.
  9. Originally posted by Tyrant No they just have immediate access to reality.

    But your self still has to trust what the body says is true. It's a matter of trust, not a direct connection to whatever is really out there.
  10. Nile bump
    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ When you "see" something, that's only your optical nerves and brain telling you what you should see, not what's really there. When you "touch" something, that's only the nerves in your fingers relaying information your brain, to tell you what you should feel. All the information you receive is second hand and not first hand information.

    It's like most matter is empty yet appears to us as solid.

    Or the fact that our optical senses tune out some of the electro-magnetic spectrum. To claim we're able to see reality as it is is false.


    Post inspired a search... Now that's cool.
    https://cen.acs.org/biological-chemistry/biotechnology/Nanosensors-plus-gene-therapy-enable/98/web/2020/06#:~:text=A%20new%20technique%20that%20combines,%2C%20DOI%3A%2010.1126%2Fscience.
  11. Tyrant African Astronaut
    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ But your self still has to trust what the body says is true. It's a matter of trust, not a direct connection to whatever is really out there.

    Just trust your immediate access to reality
  12. Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by Tyrant That's not even true, I have defeated you at philosophy debates several times and you have yet to defeat me even one time.

    In fact you are even just projecting your own Reddit-kidness on me.

    You’re the Thrasymachus to my Socrates, lil bitch ass nigger
  13. Originally posted by Tyrant Just trust your immediate access to reality

    If I write you as a computer program, you would have no way of telling you were a computer program. I could program you to think you have direct access to reality, but you really don't. The only reason you would think you do is because I programmed you to think you do.
  14. Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ If I write you as a computer program, you would have no way of telling you were a computer program. I could program you to think you have direct access to reality, but you really don't. The only reason you would think you do is because I programmed you to think you do.

    You couldn’t write me as a computer program. No register is large enough to address my cock
  15. Lanny Bird of Courage
    The Tyranny of the Cock is what I should title my dissertation
  16. Zanick motherfucker [my p.a. supernal goa]
    my metatoroidal asshole can address everything and everything else so do it motherfucker
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  17. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Creation seems to come out of imperfection. It seems to come out of a striving and a frustration. This is where, I think, language came from. I mean, it came from our desire to transcend our isolation and have some sort of connection with one another. It had to be easy when it was just simple survival. “Water.” We came up with a sound for that. “Sabretooth tiger right behind you!” We came up with a sound for that. But when it gets really interesting, I think, is when we use that same system of symbols to communicate all the abstract and intangible things that we’re experiencing. What is “frustration”? Or, what is “anger” or “love”? When I say “love” - the sound comes out of my mouth and it hits the other person’s ear, travels through this byzantine conduit in their brain, through their memories of love or lack of love, and they register what I'm saying... and they say yes they understand, but how do I know? Because words are inert. They’re just symbols. They’re dead - you know? And so much of our experience is intangible. So much of what we perceive cannot be expressed, it’s unspeakable. And yet, you know, when we communicate with one another and we feel that we have connected - and we think we’re understood, I think we have a feeling of almost spiritual communion... and that feeling may be transient, but I think it’s what we live for.
  18. Nile bump
    Originally posted by Nile Everytime obbe posts I want to make analogies with his words and incorporating allusions to his struggling marriage.

    I can't do it tho, it's too tasteless.

  19. Tyrant African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Lanny You’re the Thrasymachus to my Socrates, lil bitch ass nigger

    I SHIT IN YOUR BUTT FAGGOT
  20. Originally posted by Lanny You couldn’t write me as a computer program. No register is large enough to address my cock

    You would only be a few lines, at most.
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