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  1. #21
    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀

    No one watches your shitty Youtube videos, say what you want to say or fuck off
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  2. #22
    Meikai Heck This Schlong
    Originally posted by Lanny JTB is kinda BTFO'd at this point

    I'm sure it's BTFO'd in a way my tiny little pea-sized smoothbrain will never quite appreciate, but I'm glad the big wrinkle brains finally got around to figuring that out. Pretty sure a tweet that... just... casually mentioned JTB was what prompted this thread.
  3. #23
    Meikai Heck This Schlong
    Reading the wiki page on Gettier (like I said, my brain is smooth and smol) and like... kinda laughing. Fuck, smart people are dumb.

    "Smith knows that it rained today"
    A subject S knows that a proposition P is true if and only if:
    P is true

    Literally right out the gate with "you can know P is true by knowing P is true".
  4. #24
    Originally posted by Solstice No one watches your shitty Youtube videos, say what you want to say or fuck off

    That didn't frighten me.
  5. #25
    Tyrant African Astronaut
    Shut the fuck up
  6. #26
    Originally posted by Tyrant Shut the fuck up

    OTP
  7. #27
    Meikai Heck This Schlong
    Originally posted by Tyrant Shut the fuck up

  8. #28
    Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by Meikai Reading the wiki page on Gettier (like I said, my brain is smooth and smol) and like… kinda laughing. Fuck, smart people are dumb.

    "Smith knows that it rained today"
    A subject S knows that a proposition P is true if and only if:
    P is true

    Literally right out the gate with "you can know P is true by knowing P is true".

    I mean truth is usually not the controversial criterion for knowledge, it’s kinda just in there for completeness. The problem, as you’ve probably read, is around the relationship between justification and truth.

    On the other hand though, I think it’s worth at least considering if we could be said to know untrue things without reducing knowledge to mere belief. E.g. we might say Newton knew about the motion of bodies even if Newtonian physics is now understood to fail to account for some phenomena.

    Which I guess is to say we might usefully take knowledge not to be a binary relation between subjects and true propositions but a quantity measuring the efficacy of a subject’s beliefs in predicting or manipulating its environment.
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  9. #29
    Meikai Heck This Schlong
    Originally posted by Lanny I mean truth is usually not the controversial criterion for knowledge, it’s kinda just in there for completeness. The problem, as you’ve probably read, is around the relationship between justification and truth.

    On the other hand though, I think it’s worth at least considering if we could be said to know untrue things without reducing knowledge to mere belief. E.g. we might say Newton knew about the motion of bodies even if Newtonian physics is now understood to fail to account for some phenomena.

    Which I guess is to say we might usefully take knowledge not to be a binary relation between subjects and true propositions but a quantity measuring the efficacy of a subject’s beliefs in predicting or manipulating its environment.

    I think the Newton example is totally reasonable. Smol brain as I said so I can't into formal logic, but that much checks out using plain ol' common sense.

    His knowledge was incomplete, but knowledge nonetheless.


    Smart people are still dumb, even if I'm usually dumber.
  10. #30
    Tyrant African Astronaut
    Man all of Lanny's philosophy knowledge is based on entirely trusting a summary from the Stanford Plato page.
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  11. #31
    Nile bump
    Justified True Beliefs.
  12. #32
    Meikai Heck This Schlong
    Originally posted by Nile Justified True Beliefs.

    this makes me irrationally angry
  13. #33
    A College Professor victim of incest [your moreover breastless limestone]
    Originally posted by Tyrant Man all of Lanny's philosophy knowledge is based on entirely trusting a summary from the Stanford Plato page.

    bitch
  14. #34
    Nile bump
    Originally posted by Meikai this makes me irrationally angry

    Sigma 6 justified True belifs
  15. #35
    Meikai Heck This Schlong
    Originally posted by Meikai this makes me irrationally angry

    "knowledge is justified true belief"

    okay but how do you know the belief is true? how do you know it's justified? any definition of knowledge that requires knowledge (of what is True, what is Just) feels... just... inherently wrong. knowledge is a belief that "works" heuristically. if you try to pin down knowledge, you will fail.
  16. #36
    Nile bump
    Go read Hume faggot, wats next you'll argue against causality?

    If I hit a que ball I caused the break.
  17. #37
    Meikai Heck This Schlong
    Originally posted by Nile Go read

    never

    im not gonna let some fat nigger european who died decades/centuries/millennia ago define my cognitive processeez. never read. those niggas just tryna make you think/feel/believe a certain way. read stories and absorb the truth by osmosis. if someone purports to have a more direct path, they're full of shit. the lord works through schizophrenic-connect-the-dots. if they couldn't fulfil their obligation to tell you their philosophy through a compelling narative, they were not ordained by god.
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  18. #38
    DontTellEm Black Hole
    Right. Get a job shitbag
  19. #39
    Meikai Heck This Schlong
    Originally posted by DontTellEm Right. Get a job shitbag

    ew
  20. #40
    Meikai Heck This Schlong
    you don't possess me
    don't impress me
    just upset my miiiind

    can't instruct me, or conduct me
    just use up my time~
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