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2021-12-03 at 2:24 AM UTCSuddenly the vaxx advocates have fallen silent.
I took the vax and got sick, twice, then got corona anyway.
I want reparations. -
2021-12-03 at 2:35 AM UTC
Originally posted by Donald Trump Suddenly the vaxx advocates have fallen silent.
Nahhhhh, not really. There’s no way anything spectral posts deserves that much of my time to read that medical article. One thing for sure, spectral didn’t read it! And the other article is from the national file. They count on their readers to be too dumb to read it. I’m not saying the study is wrong, but I am saying I’m not wasting my time on a spectral post. -
2021-12-03 at 2:39 AM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Nahhhhh, not really. There’s no way anything spectral posts deserves that much of my time to read that medical article. One thing for sure, spectral didn’t read it! And the other article is from the national file. They count on their readers to be too dumb to read it. I’m not saying the study is wrong, but I am saying I’m not wasting my time on a spectral post.
There you go, trying to use misdirection to avoid having to confront the scientific evidence that the AZ and MRNA vaccines are poisonous. -
2021-12-03 at 3:10 AM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Nahhhhh, not really. There’s no way anything spectral posts deserves that much of my time to read that medical article. One thing for sure, spectral didn’t read it! And the other article is from the national file. They count on their readers to be too dumb to read it. I’m not saying the study is wrong, but I am saying I’m not wasting my time on a spectral post.
That didn't scare me. -
2021-12-05 at 5:06 PM UTC
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2021-12-07 at 7:31 PM UTC
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2021-12-07 at 7:33 PM UTCI'd tell them to go fuck themselves.
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2021-12-07 at 7:39 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Nahhhhh, not really. There’s no way anything spectral posts deserves that much of my time to read that medical article. One thing for sure, spectral didn’t read it! And the other article is from the national file. They count on their readers to be too dumb to read it. I’m not saying the study is wrong, but I am saying I’m not wasting my time on a spectral post.
Don't forget that whole "sick and tired of arguing with self-absorbed mental midgets who think their right to spread disease Trumps my right to not be infected by them" thingy. -
2021-12-08 at 12:09 AM UTC
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2021-12-08 at 12:13 AM UTC
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2021-12-08 at 12:29 AM UTC
Originally posted by stl1 Don't forget that whole "sick and tired of arguing with self-absorbed mental midgets who think their right to spread disease Trumps my right to not be infected by them" thingy.
You don't have a right not to catch diseases. That has literally never been a thing.
Maybe you're caught up in the covid hysteria, but think about how crazy the branch covidian logic would be regarded if it was applied to anything else, like AIDS, the common cold, meningitis, etc. -
2021-12-08 at 12:33 AM UTC
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2021-12-08 at 1:13 AM UTCThe way they wear double masks while walking outside alone, or driving in their car alone double masked. That right there is genuine mental derangement. They're so full of fear and terror, and so ignorant of the actual facts and actual science, they've turned themselves into mere caricatures of the human species. Something to be scoffed at, laughed at, and pointed fingers at. Whenever I see one of these people, it confirms to me I'm looking at a mentally deranged and dangerous imbecile.
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2021-12-08 at 2:33 AM UTC
Originally posted by stl1 Don't forget that whole "sick and tired of arguing with self-absorbed mental midgets who think their right to spread disease Trumps my right to not be infected by them" thingy.
'you need to get an experimental medical treatment so that I don't catch a cold'
if it even worked it wouldn't matter whether anyone else got it
the fact that it doesn't prevent infection or transmission means that it cannot contribute to herd immunity, so other people being treated doesn't affect you anyway -
2021-12-08 at 4:13 AM UTCTrump had to push the concoctions, or these fools would have locked everyone into their homes from day one, with full contact tracing, snitch lines, and bans on everything you could imagine. He knows how deadly the shots are, but it was a choice of the lesser of two evils. And the bonus of choosing this path is it exposes the demonic pharmaceutical corporations and their hand puppets to the world for what they really are. And if he had of let them do what they planned to do, there would have been three times as many deaths. He also encouraged the use of ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, so it wasn't as if people didn't have a choice. They just decided to pick their own poison. The New World Order never thought he could get something out there so fast, so that took them by complete surprise, and it really fucked up their schedule, big time. Now, they feel the need to accelerate, because now they're nervous. Things aren't going just as they had planned, and they're so arrogant that they have trouble accepting that. Now, they're going to overplay their hand, because of their own arrogance, and they're going to expose themselves to the world for what they really are, and who they are.
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2021-12-08 at 4:48 AM UTC
Originally posted by Donald Trump You don't have a right not to catch diseases. That has literally never been a thing.
Maybe you're caught up in the covid hysteria, but think about how crazy the branch covidian logic would be regarded if it was applied to anything else, like AIDS, the common cold, meningitis, etc.
It has been applied to AIDS. People have been sued for knowingly giving people AIDS/HIV.
https://www.le§m£ÂgØLatch.com/law-library/article/failing-to-disclose-hiv-status-to-a-sexual-partner.html#Can-My-Sexual-Partner-Sue-Me-for-Failing-to-Disclose-My-HIV-Status?If you fail to disclose your HIV status, he or she may have grounds to sue you. This is true even if you do not transmit HIV to your partner because you put them at risk. For a civil lawsuit, the main requirement is that the partner has HIV/AIDS and was aware of it.Jul 24, 2018
Here’s another link. Lanny’s damn word enhancements.
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2021-12-08 at 9:42 AM UTChttps://osf.io/uwx32/
is retropositioning (altered M'RNA being reverse-transcribed back into DNA) a serious concern with the M'RNA treatments? how would you even tell or effectively test for it -
2021-12-08 at 10:21 PM UTCThe New York Times
The Coronavirus Attacks Fat Tissue, Scientists Find
Roni Caryn Rabin
From the start of the pandemic, the coronavirus seemed to target people carrying extra pounds. Patients who were overweight or obese were more likely to develop severe Covid-19 and more likely to die.
Research has found that the coronavirus infects fat cells and immune cells within body fat, causing an immune response that scientists say may contribute to severe disease.
Though these patients often have health conditions like diabetes that compound their risk, scientists have become increasingly convinced that their vulnerability has something to do with obesity itself.
Now researchers have found that the coronavirus infects both fat cells and certain immune cells within body fat, prompting a damaging defensive response in the body.
“The bottom line is, ‘Oh my god, indeed, the virus can infect fat cells directly,’” said Dr. Philipp Scherer, a scientist who studies fat cells at UT Southwestern Medical Center in Dallas, who was not involved in the research.
“Whatever happens in fat doesn’t stay in fat,” he added. “It affects the neighboring tissues as well.”
The research has not yet been peer-reviewed or published in a scientific journal, but it was posted online in October. If the findings hold up, they may shed light not just on why patients with excess pounds are vulnerable to the virus, but also on why certain younger adults with no other risks become so ill.
The study’s authors suggested the evidence could point to new Covid treatments that target body fat.
“Maybe that’s the Achilles’ heel that the virus utilizes to evade our protective immune responses — by hiding in this place,” Dr. Vishwa Deep Dixit, a professor of comparative medicine and immunology at Yale School of Medicine, said.
The finding is particularly relevant to the United States, which has one of the highest rates of obesity in the world. Most American adults are overweight, and 42 percent have obesity. Black, Hispanic, Native American and Alaska Native people in the U.S. have higher obesity rates than white adults and Asian Americans; they have also been disproportionately affected by the pandemic, with death rates roughly double those of white Americans.
“This could well be contributing to severe disease,” Dr. Catherine Blish, a professor at Stanford University Medical Center and one of the report’s two senior authors, said. “We’re seeing the same inflammatory cytokines that I see in the blood of the really sick patients being produced in response to infection of those tissues.”
Body fat used to be thought of as inert, a form of storage. But scientists now know that the tissue is biologically active, producing hormones and immune-system proteins that act on other cells, promoting a state of nagging low-grade inflammation even when there is no infection.
Inflammation is the body’s response to an invader, and sometimes it can be so vigorous that it is more harmful than the infection that triggered it.
Fat tissue is composed mostly of fat cells, or adipocytes. It also contains pre-adipocytes, which mature into fat cells, and a variety of immune cells, including a type called adipose tissue macrophages.
Dr. Blish, with colleagues at Stanford and in Germany and Switzerland, carried out experiments to see if fat tissue obtained from bariatric surgery patients could become infected with the coronavirus, and tracked how various types of cells responded.
The fat cells themselves could become infected, the scientists found, yet did not become very inflamed. But certain immune cells called macrophages also could be infected, and they developed a robust inflammatory response.
Even stranger, the pre-adipocytes were not infected, but contributed to the inflammatory response. (The scientists did not examine whether particular variants were more destructive in this regard than others.)
The research team also obtained fat tissue from the bodies of European patients who had died of Covid and discovered the coronavirus in fat near various organs.
The idea that adipose tissue might serve as a reservoir for pathogens is not new, Dr. Dixit said. Body fat is known to harbor a number of them, including H.I.V. and the influenza virus.
The coronavirus appears to be able to evade the body fat’s immune defenses, which are limited and incapable of fighting it effectively. And in people who are obese, there can be a lot of body fat.
A man whose ideal weight is 170 pounds but who weighs 250 pounds is carrying a substantial amount of fat in which the virus may “hang out,” replicate and trigger a destructive immune system response, said Dr. David Kass, a professor of cardiology at Johns Hopkins.
“If you really are very obese, fat is the biggest single organ in your body,” Dr. Kass said.
The coronavirus “can infect that tissue and actually reside there,” he said. “Whether it hurts it, kills it or at best, it’s a place to amplify itself — it doesn’t matter. It becomes kind of a reservoir.”
As the inflammatory response snowballs, cytokines trigger even more inflammation and the release of additional cytokines. “It’s like a perfect storm,” he said.
Dr. Blish and her colleagues speculated that infected body fat may even contribute to “long Covid,” a condition describing troublesome symptoms like fatigue that persist for weeks or months after recovery from an acute episode.
The data also suggest that Covid vaccines and treatments may need to take into account the patient’s weight and fat stores.
“This paper is another wake-up call for the medical profession and public health to look more deeply into the issues of overweight and obese individuals, and the treatments and vaccines we’re giving them,” said Barry Popkin, a professor of nutrition at University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, who has studied the heightened risk that Covid poses to those with obesity.
“We keep documenting the risk they have, but we still aren’t addressing it,” Dr. Popkin said.