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Avangard hypersonic glide vehicles
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2021-11-18 at 3:27 PM UTCHow many years was the Stealth bomber and fighter in operation before being revealed to the public...
Then there is the Aurora if it exists...that's been rumored for a couple of decades.
Cutting edge technology is not readily available on google. -
2021-11-18 at 3:34 PM UTCMaybe you like to daydream about the US having some hidden wealth of secret tech stored beside the aliens in area 51 or in the basement of the pentagon, but reality is you can't keep secrets in the era of the smartphone.
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2021-11-18 at 3:37 PM UTCthe threat is often more effective than the weapon itself, especially when it relates to MAD and escalation control.
the only reason people ever try to bring up 'super secret game changing weapons' is because they can't handle the demonstrable fact that rival nations are entire generations ahead of them -
2021-11-18 at 3:40 PM UTC
Originally posted by Donald Trump Maybe you like to daydream about the US having some hidden wealth of secret tech stored beside the aliens in area 51 or in the basement of the pentagon, but reality is you can't keep secrets in the era of the smartphone.
Naive.
Um no one mentioned Aliens...I don't believe Aliens are or have been visiting Earth.
Again if you think the latest technological advances are public information you're nuts...simply from a national security point of view it's not information you'd want the rest of the world to know about...Not sure what smartphones have to do with recording an aircraft flying at 100,000ft and Mark 8 either... -
2021-11-18 at 3:40 PM UTC
Originally posted by Nigger Nintendo So can planes and sometimes they have to, like USA Flight 1549.
Did that plane "turn into" a glide vehicle? No, it was always capable of gliding, it just usually doesn't.
Any ratio, there's no hard definition about being a glider design that prevents you from including some form of propulsion.
stop flattering yourself.
just because your asshole is capable of receiving cocks of various state of circumscision doesnt, wont make it a vagina. or make us want to refer to it as a vagina.
dalit thoughts. -
2021-11-18 at 3:42 PM UTC"The Lockheed F-117 Nighthawk, often referred to as the “stealth fighter,” was the world's first operational stealth aircraft, born out of a program so secretive that the plane itself was flying combat missions for seven entire years before it was formally unveiled to the public."
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2021-11-18 at 3:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra the threat is often more effective than the weapon itself, especially when it relates to MAD and escalation control.
the only reason people ever try to bring up 'super secret game changing weapons' is because they can't handle the demonstrable fact that rival nations are entire generations ahead of them
the MAD doctrine has long been superceeded by FAGS doctrine.
First-strike Always Gurantee Success.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-11-18 at 3:45 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson "The Lockheed F-117 Nighthawk, often referred to as the “stealth fighter,” was the world's first operational stealth aircraft, born out of a program so secretive that the plane itself was flying combat missions for seven entire years before it was formally unveiled to the public."
ja, bombing gooknameses who didnt have radars to see stealth aircrafts in the first place. -
2021-11-18 at 3:48 PM UTC
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2021-11-18 at 3:48 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny the MAD doctrine has long been superceeded by FAGS doctrine.
First-strike Always Gurantee Success.
only until there are reliable defence against hypersonic delivery systems, but that could be a while - I can't see any current technologies working. SAMs and AA/CIWS aren't agile enough, several countries are working on lasers but that requires constant contact and could be largely defeated with reflective coatings. maybe some kind of plasma or small-bore railgun -
2021-11-18 at 3:57 PM UTC
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2021-11-18 at 3:59 PM UTCdid you even read the rest of the sentence
that's the reason why lasers haven't worked so far, and there have been plenty of attempts including the recent PERESVETS -
2021-11-18 at 4:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra only until there are reliable defence against hypersonic delivery systems, but that could be a while - I can't see any current technologies working. SAMs and AA/CIWS aren't agile enough, several countries are working on lasers but that requires constant contact and could be largely defeated with reflective coatings. maybe some kind of plasma or small-bore railgun
theres a reason china adopted a 'no first use' nuke stance, its because it knew it couldnt take out all US's nuke capability, while the US can, to any country, which is why the US doesnt have 'no first use' policy.
because the US prefer FAGS.
and the only counter measure against hypersonics will be satelite-based missile system with optical radars (ie: terapixel cameras and AIs) to catch them on their way up, follow them on the way down and possibly intercept them before they hit their targets.
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2021-11-18 at 4:03 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny the MAD doctrine has long been superceeded by FAGS doctrine.
First-strike Always Gurantee Success.
also it only works to guarantee an initial strike, and if it doesn't (command and control of nuclear weapons is designed to prevent this) you still have to deal with the hundreds of nuclear weapons the enemy is going to fling back at you. no technology in the world can guarantee a 100% interception rate even of cold-war era ballistic missiles -
2021-11-18 at 4:07 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny theres a reason china adopted a 'no first use' nuke stance, its because it knew it couldnt take out all US's nuke capability, while the US can, to any country, which is why the US doesnt have 'no first use' policy.
because the US prefer FAGS.
and the only counter measure against hypersonics will be satelite-based missile system with optical radars (ie: terapixel cameras and AIs) to catch them on their way up, follow them on the way down and possibly intercept them before they hit their targets.
space lazers is another possibility.
same reason Russia and China are openly doing ASAT weapon tests - the US is trying to scramble and develop their own hypersonic weapons. they plan on having a working prototype inside a year, but they won't have a targeting system that doesn't rely on satellites for another 5 or so.
like I said, lasers are almost certainly a dead end for interception -
2021-11-18 at 4:14 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra like I said, lasers are almost certainly a dead end for interception
im not so sure.
there had been too many times the technology that "experts" rule as evolutionary dead ends suddenly ckme back to life when someone somewhere discovered a new way to either improve their performance or reduce the cost of their production or simply a process that would make it practical.
electric cars and diesel engines were once ruled technological dead ends .... -
2021-11-18 at 4:16 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson A sufficiently powerful laser (or bank of said lasers) could easily knock one out…if the technology exists…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YAL-1
They tried sticking a laser in a plane and flew it around for a few years on the assumption that the technology would magically get better as time elapsed. You know how they release smaller, faster, cheaper smartphones every year? They had the same assumption about their lasers.
Eventually they had to admit that the plan just didn't work, and that the reality is that lasers are just plain shitty.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-11-18 at 4:32 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Secondary isn't primary…
Kike a glider that is primarily a glider but also has secondary self PROPULSIONAgain…primary use…if it's primary use was as a chicken coop then yes…the scenario I presented was an active aircraft also housing chickens…the primary use is still as an aircraft and so referring to something by it's primary use is the norm.
ETA: You don't say "Wow, look at that flying chicken coop!" you'd say "fucking lollocks, look at that plane full of chickens…EGGstordinary!"
No the primary use is a chicken coop now, plain and simple. -
2021-11-19 at 3:04 AM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny im not so sure.
there had been too many times the technology that "experts" rule as evolutionary dead ends suddenly ckme back to life when someone somewhere discovered a new way to either improve their performance or reduce the cost of their production or simply a process that would make it practical.
electric cars and diesel engines were once ruled technological dead ends ….
I guess anything's possible, but with our current understanding of physics a laser is not going to be an effective weapon unless you dump absurd amounts of power into it, and if we're able to deliver that much power to a portable anti-missile system it'd be better used elsewhere and it'd also make missiles that much more difficult to intercept -
2021-11-19 at 4:34 AM UTCThe problem is that gradually heating shit up with infrared is a hilariously ineffective way to macroscopically destroy it.
