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2017-04-14 at 7:37 PM UTCThere's an obvious answer, and a less obvious one. I will judge your intelligence based on which you give.
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2017-04-14 at 7:38 PM UTCok so tell me what was wrong with my psychology post now. and posting dunning kruger as a reaction to someone's theory is ironic because it can be an example of the same thing. i literally know exactly what i'm talking about and it's all over your head. there are other people who completely understand what i mean. here's a graph i made when i was 16 on adderall which basically expresses the same thing, though my understanding of the factors has improved since then, but same basic concept:
stop acting like a zongol. so you're doing an unstable butthurt with a "learned this in university" argument and thinking copying the words "i'm an idiot" off a chalkboard over and over confirms your talents. -
2017-04-15 at 12:31 AM UTC
Originally posted by Captain Falcon A tree which is planted on Monday and doubles in size each day is fully grown on the following Sunday. On what day is it half grown?
Saturday. There are two ways to verify: one is math and the other is logic.
Math
Let's assign a value of 1 to the tree on the day that it is planted.
1=Monday
1*2=2=Tuesday
2*2=4=Wednesday
4*2=8=Thursday
8*2=16=Friday
16*2=32=Saturday
32*2=64=Sunday
If it is fully grown on Sunday with a value of 64, and half of 64 is 32, which would be when it is half grown, then it would be half grown on Saturday.
Logic
If something doubles in value from one day to the next, then it is half of its value the day before a given day. Therefore, half of Sunday's value would be observed on Saturday and it is half grown on Saturday.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-04-15 at 12:44 AM UTC
Originally posted by Ajax Saturday. There are two ways to verify: one is math and the other is logic.
Math
Let's assign a value of 1 to the tree on the day that it is planted.
1=Monday
1*2=2=Tuesday
2*2=4=Wednesday
4*2=8=Thursday
8*2=16=Friday
16*2=32=Saturday
32*2=64=Sunday
If it is fully grown on Sunday with a value of 64, and half of 64 is 32, which would be when it is half grown, then it would be half grown on Saturday.
Logic
If something doubles in value from one day to the next, then it is half of its value the day before a given day. Therefore, half of Sunday's value would be observed on Saturday and it is half grown on Saturday.
did you really have to do the math for that -
2017-04-15 at 12:47 AM UTC
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2017-04-15 at 1:12 AM UTC
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2017-04-15 at 1:29 AM UTCthe tree is the exponent of the number 2 so saturday, C - 1 = B
if you go halfway in between the number line between monday and following sunday you get sunday (of the same week. since there are 13 placements inbetween point A and C it's actually halfway between sunday and monday so the tree is half grown at 12pm on sunday assuming it was grown at 12am on monday, or 12am on sunday assuming 12pm on monday
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2017-04-15 at 1:49 AM UTC
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2017-04-15 at 1:56 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny mwf people think this is math
A = start point
B = point that is half C
C = end point
D = midpoint
W = days
X = timeline
Y = placement on timeline
Z = numerical value
M-T-W-T-F-S-S(D)M-T-W-T-F-S-S (W)
A-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-C (X)
1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13-14 (Y)
2-4-8-16-32-64-128-256-512-1024-2048-4096-8192-16384 (Z)
C - 1Y = 8192 = B = Saturday = placement 13
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2017-04-15 at 3:52 AM UTC
Originally posted by Ajax Saturday. There are two ways to verify: one is math and the other is logic.
Math
Let's assign a value of 1 to the tree on the day that it is planted.
1=Monday
1*2=2=Tuesday
2*2=4=Wednesday
4*2=8=Thursday
8*2=16=Friday
16*2=32=Saturday
32*2=64=Sunday
If it is fully grown on Sunday with a value of 64, and half of 64 is 32, which would be when it is half grown, then it would be half grown on Saturday.
Logic
If something doubles in value from one day to the next, then it is half of its value the day before a given day. Therefore, half of Sunday's value would be observed on Saturday and it is half grown on Saturday.
This is the obvious answer, and your intelligence has been judged as such. -
2017-04-15 at 3:53 AM UTC
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2017-04-15 at 3:55 AM UTC
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2017-04-15 at 4:34 AM UTC
Originally posted by Take it as it comes... its also true.
unless you mean it's half grown when you plant it, what if it's 1/4th grown when you plant it!!?!?!?
It is true in a purely mathematical framework, assuming a defined end point and growth by size.
First, a tree is never fully grown unless you count it's end of life. Secondly, to answer Saturday assumes that by half grown, you are referring to having achieved​ half the size of the size designated as full grown. This is not a reasonable assumption. Trees, as all organisms, have a growth plate over time.
What would ordinarily be considered the wrong answer, Thursday, is the right answer with regards to its growth plate over time, assuming the tree is planted as a sprout. If not, the answer is "never" because the tree does not exist when planted as a seed. 2x0 is 0. -
2017-04-15 at 4:36 AM UTC
Originally posted by Captain Falcon It is true in a purely mathematical framework, assuming a defined end point and growth by size.
First, a tree is never fully grown unless you count it's end of life. Secondly, to answer Saturday assumes that by half grown, you are referring to having achieved​ half the size of the size designated as full grown. This is not a reasonable assumption. Trees, as all organisms, have a growth plate over time.
What would ordinarily be considered the wrong answer, Thursday, is the right answer with regards to its growth plate over time, assuming the tree is planted as a sprout. If not, the answer is "never" because the tree does not exist when planted as a seed. 2x0 is 0.
that's a really dumb gotcha answer bro
I guess it's non-obvious, but like in the same way as saying "I never actually planted a tree sucker! You sure look dumb now!"The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-04-15 at 5:05 AM UTC
Originally posted by Captain Falcon It is true in a purely mathematical framework, assuming a defined end point and growth by size.
First, a tree is never fully grown unless you count it's end of life. Secondly, to answer Saturday assumes that by half grown, you are referring to having achieved​ half the size of the size designated as full grown. This is not a reasonable assumption. Trees, as all organisms, have a growth plate over time.
What would ordinarily be considered the wrong answer, Thursday, is the right answer with regards to its growth plate over time, assuming the tree is planted as a sprout. If not, the answer is "never" because the tree does not exist when planted as a seed. 2x0 is 0.
you literally wrote "is fully grown on the following Sunday"
what if like, it's a tree with epilepsy so it only grows for 2 weeks and then dies, so its fully grown on sunday -
2017-04-15 at 6:52 AM UTC
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2017-04-15 at 7:09 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny that's a really dumb gotcha answer bro
I guess it's non-obvious, but like in the same way as saying "I never actually planted a tree sucker! You sure look dumb now!"
That's exactly what a low intelligence dummy would say when they're made to look a fool.
The riddle has a simple logical answer within a mathematical framework. But without even introducing the meaning of the concept of a growth plate, the other answer is, by time, at the mid point between its designated full growth and smallest point. I don't see your issue with this answer.
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2017-04-15 at 11:09 AM UTC
Originally posted by Take it as it comes... A = start point
B = point that is half C
C = end point
D = midpoint
W = days
X = timeline
Y = placement on timeline
Z = numerical value
M-T-W-T-F-S-S(D)M-T-W-T-F-S-S (W)
A-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-C (X)
1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13-14 (Y)
2-4-8-16-32-64-128-256-512-1024-2048-4096-8192-16384 (Z)
C - 1Y = 8192 = B = Saturday = placement 13
Post last edited by Take it as it comes… at 2017-04-15T01:58:59.752846+00:00
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2017-04-15 at 1:17 PM UTCMy answer was based on the information that was given to me. My logic was impeccable. If you start to introduce other factors after the fact, then that's on you.
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2017-04-15 at 1:45 PM UTC
Originally posted by Ajax My answer was based on the information that was given to me. My logic was impeccable. If you start to introduce other factors after the fact, then that's on you.
I don't have to introduce any additional information to conclude that the halfway point in its growth is halfway chronologically between it's planting and point of full growth. Everything else is kind of fluff. Note that I did not say you were wrong. It's just the obvious answer.
