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You can't have it all. (Intelligence)

  1. #1
    I've come to notice that whenever someone is incredibly gifted in a certain field, they show clear signs of lacking in other, more basic ones. For example, autistic people like sploo may be good at logik pussles and math, but they have absolutely zero social abilities or awareness. Likewise, sociopaths and other fun deviants are extremely charming and bright, but lack emotional intelligence (yee, that's a thing).

    It seems as if no one can have it all. You're either particularly good in one field and unusually bad in others, or pretty average overall. Why do you suppose this is? Have we not developed the mental capacity as a human race to be stellar at everything? Or, do you disagree with this observation altogether?
  2. #2
    Lanny Bird of Courage
    I don't know, to a degree I feel like the savant narrative is kind of as prevalent as it is because it's a reassuring story about our failures, if we're not good at something it just means we're good at something else, or if someone else is great at something there's some cost. And I mean when you run into people like that, who seem to be better than you at almost everything, that's a really frustrating experience, looks like a secondary gain to me. Obviously no one person can be an expert at all things, skill acquisition takes time and we have a finite supply of that, but there are highly talented people in the world that don't appear to have any out-of-the-ordinary character flaw.

    Also sploo isn't good at math.
  3. #3
    Yeah well you might all talk been big shit but I bet you are all huge pussies IRL with no friends and you are actual cucks and anyone could beat you up.

    Sploo is better than any of you shitstains on humanity. Fanny and altdra
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    Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by SCronaldo_J_Trump Yeah well you might all talk been big shit but I bet you are all huge pussies IRL with no friends and you are actual cucks and anyone could beat you up.

    Sploo is better than any of you shitstains on humanity. Fanny and altdra

    plz shitpost elsewhere
  5. #5
    Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Different people can be intelligent in different ways. For example, most people will admit that Tesla was an intelligent man, maybe even genius. He invented alternating current and it changed the world when he did; yet he died poor, alone and crazy, thinking pigeons and Martians were communicating with him.

    I do hope and believe that as we continue to advance technology, we will be able to enhance our natural abilities and create beings that are capable of super human intelligence.
  6. #6
    you can have it all but every additional uncommonly good trait you have increases the rarity of being that person
  7. #7
    Originally posted by Dargo but they have absolutely zero social abilities or awareness

    how would you know?
  8. #8
    benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by Open Your Mind Different people can be intelligent in different ways.

    cant agree more. I'm a genius @ being a totaal retard.

    total geenious.
  9. #9
    This is clearly false because I am good at literally everything.
  10. #10
    Originally posted by Open Your Mind Different people can be intelligent in different ways. For example, most people will admit that Tesla was an intelligent man, maybe even genius. He invented alternating current and it changed the world when he did; yet he died poor, alone and crazy, thinking pigeons and Martians were communicating with him.

    I do hope and believe that as we continue to advance technology, we will be able to enhance our natural abilities and create beings that are capable of super human intelligence.

    Tesla did not invent AC. My boy Faraday did the science, my boys at Ganz did the engineering. Tesla is the most overhyped nigga on the internet.
  11. #11
    Originally posted by Captain Falcon This is clearly false because I am good at literally everything.

    werent you a virgin until 25, or are you going to claim that's "trolling" now
  12. #12
    Originally posted by Take it as it comes... werent you a virgin until 25, or are you going to claim that's "trolling" now

    I never said anything of the sort, ever. Unstable Matter was just gigantically uncreative and said it 1 billion times. Not really my problem if someone latched on to that.
  13. #13
    https://psychology-tools.com/empathy-quotient/

    this is the best test for EQ readily available, but it does combine the cognitive aspects of empathy (deficient in autism) and the emotional aspects of empathy (deficient in psychopathy), so a low score could indicate either, or in some cases something else altogether like a schizoid orientation.

    iqnavi.net is the best site for IQ testing, though most of the tests are spatially oriented. the tests are statistically validated and one has a reliability of 0.92, while psychologist administered tests have a reliability of 0.95. basically interchangeable.

    human abilities can be seen as a sort of hierarchy

    there's the P factor, personality quotient, of which EQ constitutes a large portion of, but not necessarily all of it, for example a prototypical high scoring P factor would be elevated in extroversion, conscientiousness, agreeableness, openness to experience, and emotional stability. EQ is a factor in all of them but they're distinct, so EQ is like a proxy for an overall P factor in some sense.

    IQ is the G factor (general ability quotient) which can be IMO divided into verbal ability, logical ability, and visual ability. Then there's crystallized and fluid intelligence for these factors. For example, fluid verbal would be good analogical reasoning between concepts, while crystallized verbal would be vocabulary and information. This also relates to a cognitive proficiency/executive functioning quotient which describes processing speed, working memory, etc. which I'm very bad in meaning some sort of cognitive dysfunction distinct from low IQ

    Post last edited by Take it as it comes… at 2017-04-14T18:48:49.411125+00:00
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    benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by Take it as it comes... https://psychology-tools.com/empathy-quotient/

    this is the best test for EQ readily available, but it does combine the cognitive aspects of empathy (deficient in autism) and the emotional aspects of empathy (deficient in psychopathy), so a low score could indicate either, or in some cases something else altogether like a schizoid orientation.

    iqnavi.net is the best site for IQ testing, though most of the tests are spatially oriented. the tests are statistically validated and one has a reliability of 0.92, while psychologist administered tests have a reliability of 0.95. basically interchangeable.

    60 fucking questions ???????? whoeven that made this test cleary isnt empathizing with me ...
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  15. #15
    Number13 African Astronaut [dispute my snotty-nosed seagull]
    A long time ago there were people who possessed lots of great qualities, lacking in few but as the fortitude of people waned fewer and fewer people are capable of it.
    Basically it gives you something to strive for though most people focus on one person only and not on the best qualities of all people, study by imitation and observation can lead anyone to being comparable or at least better than average at the given subject.
  16. #16
    Sploo shut the fuck up, Jesus Christ.
  17. #17
    Originally posted by Captain Falcon Sploo shut the fuck up, Jesus Christ.

    i edited the post to describe the theories between the majority of human cognitive differences. i guess being informed about things is BAD. my wikifu is so good (not to mention its a major that mostly attracts juice or dumb women) so i know more about several topics than most majors in their field. it just takes a little bit of research which most humans seem wholly incapable of.
  18. #18
    No, the problem is that you're woefully underinformed or misinformed, and constantly and consistently use words you literally don't understand in orders that literally make little to no semantic sense.

    I am literally telling you to try to understand the value of silence; just shut the fuck up. Process your thoughts. Learn how to order them coherently and without the stench of rampant autism. Then post.
  19. #19
    Also

    Originally posted by Take it as it comes... i know more about several topics than most majors in their field. it just takes a little bit of research

    Apparently your wikifu is pretty poor, and so is your understanding of human cognition... Otherwise you would be familiar with the Dunning-Kreuger effect and would have gained some self awareness.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

    The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which low-ability individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability as much higher than it really is.
  20. #20
    A tree which is planted on Monday and doubles in size each day is fully grown on the following Sunday. On what day is it half grown?
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