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2021-08-18 at 4:21 PM UTCI don't care about industry regulations. That's one thing America has done right and ALL INDUSTRY SHOULD BE SELF REGULATED!!! Consumers are much better at making decisions than the government.
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2021-08-18 at 4:22 PM UTC
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2021-08-18 at 4:22 PM UTCI just want to go to ebay and be able to buy my cocaine from regulated big pharma or have the option to get the imported unregulated chinese mexican cocaine that may or may not have rat droppings in it but you take the risk because it's 50% cheaper.
That sounds like freedom to me and anything less is fascism.
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Non sequitur.
The premise was That saftey certification on ALL products was a government regulated requirement…IT'S NOT.
It is in a lot of places and the confusion around the subject fuels the consulting industry, the goal is to make the laws and regulations as confusing as possible because they hate freedom and the free flow of capital and want their cut every time you change something on a circuit board. -
2021-08-18 at 4:24 PM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood I don't care about industry regulations. That's one thing America has done right and ALL INDUSTRY SHOULD BE SELF REGULATED!!! Consumers are much better at making decisions than the government.
Our products are in the hands of end users...in homes/offices...not just industrial installations.
"Most of our customers are industrial installers AND DISTRIBUTORS"
Distributors sell to wholesalers and end users...stick to your coffee and bagels kid -
2021-08-18 at 4:27 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Distributors sell to wholesalers and end users…stick to your coffee and bagels kid
I know how distribution works you fucking retard, everyone does. You aren't special or as skilled as any of the millions of other people that do exactly the same thing as you.
Like you said you are lazy and don't want stress. Same with everyone else, everyone just wants to be a manager, not many people want to be the boss. I wonder why that is.... Why does society discourage wealth creation? -
2021-08-18 at 4:27 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson You don't have to put them on no. But if you've paid $16,000 for the previlage you'd be pretty dumb not to.
We produce several products that are not rated…and so don't have ANY stickers, silkscreen, labeling on them except the ones we choose to put on them.
Safety certification is NOT a requirement…even though most people think it is.
o_ryl ?
remember this.
whats that ?
daddy, whats FCC ? -
2021-08-18 at 4:31 PM UTCI think anything that emits a wifi or radio signal has an FCC bullshit associated with it
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2021-08-18 at 4:40 PM UTC
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2021-08-18 at 4:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Non sequitur.
The premise was That saftey certification on ALL products was a government regulated requirement…IT'S NOT.
You have clearly never tried to produce something on your own and been discouraged, shut down and told to pay up by the regulatory bodies associated with that industry. You said it yourself you are lazy, don't want to create wealth, too much stress.
I don't know the specific US laws associated with consumer goods but in my experience you WILL run into regulation no matter what you do, it's always there. You seem ignorant to this fact and claim it's not true but what have you tried to produce? There is regulation for FUCKING EVERYTHING, it's impossible to avoid and companies spend millions of dollars to keep up with it which makes it impossible for the average joe to produce something on his own because he can't even afford the regulatory fees, they cost more than he would make.
Does that mean his business is non viable? Because he can't pay off the sharks? This is EXACTLY WHY nobody wants to be the boss this is "the stress" you are talking about so how can you say it just DOESN'T EXIST LOL GET GUD YOU ARENT A MANAGER LIKE ME YOU JUST DON'T GET IT KID. That is very obvious ignorance to the real issues, yeah. Fuck capitalism right? Who cares? You don't want to create wealth, only sell your labor so why care about regulations? -
2021-08-19 at 5:08 PM UTC
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2021-08-19 at 7:19 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny o_ryl ?
remember this.
whats that ?
daddy, whats FCC ?
Um yeah..what's your point?
My roobma having them labels on DOES NOT MEAN EVERY PRODUCT HAS TO.
Again my company produces and sells LEGALLY Electrical products in the US that have NO regulatory labeling on them whatsoever...they have a serial number label a model number label...and that's it. -
2021-08-19 at 7:27 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Um yeah..what's your point?
My roobma having them labels on DOES NOT MEAN EVERY PRODUCT HAS TO.
Again my company produces and sells LEGALLY Electrical products in the US that have NO regulatory labeling on them whatsoever…they have a serial number label a model number label…and that's it.
That doesn't mean anything, just because YOUR SPECIFIC products that YOU sell don't have that doesn't mean those PRACTICES AREN'T COMMON IN INDUSTRIES
FUCK REGULATION -
2021-08-19 at 7:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood You have clearly never tried to produce something on your own and been discouraged, shut down and told to pay up by the regulatory bodies associated with that industry. You said it yourself you are lazy, don't want to create wealth, too much stress.
Lol, and you'd be wrong.
I'm 100% in charge of taking new products from design to manufacturing, to certification, to selling...I even do most of the design work these days and then hand it over to our contract Engineer to make my design come to life.
It's not hard work, lol.
ETL/UL certification is basically paying them submitting a sample along with the datasheets for components, then ordering the UL/ETL labels when it gets approved.
Sometimes they require a component change or removal of certain features to comply with the standard.
Easy shit, a couple of dozen emails back and forth. As I said I'm right now in the process of having 8 previously uncertified products certified..the bill was $16,800. I've spent about ummm 4hrs maybe total time. The ETL engineer has approved it and it's gone to final review (which takes about 2 weeks).
You clearly have no clue what you are talking about...the tales I could tell you about UL/TUV/ETL's incompetence...wakeup call, the only care about the $$$$$$$$.
TODAY..I just discovered a switch we used is only rated at 15A...the product it's in is 20A...UL approved that in 1998...dozens of UL/TUV/ETL inspectors have since 1998 done their quarterly inspections and NOT NOTICED IT.
Fucking worthless lololo.
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2021-08-19 at 7:31 PM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood That doesn't mean anything, just because YOUR SPECIFIC products that YOU sell don't have that doesn't mean those PRACTICES AREN'T COMMON IN INDUSTRIES
FUCK REGULATION
Hey dumb dumb...I said "safety certification is not a REQUIREMENT" in MANY products...I didn't say having it done isn't common practice
As I've pointed out most of our stuff is certified...BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE...IT'S A CHOICE IN MOST INSTANCES.
NOT having it certified though will severely limit your customer base.
You can quite happily produce and sell electrical products with NO regulation/certification whatsoever on them...2 of the 8 I'm currently getting certified we've been selling for over 20yrs....without nuttin but a serial number and model number sticker on them. -
2021-08-19 at 7:34 PM UTCOp you have a point
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2021-08-19 at 7:34 PM UTC
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2021-08-19 at 7:48 PM UTCThe barista and the unemployed transgirl who listed being able to drive a forklift as one of his skills (both of whom are not in the US)...trying to "educate" me on product certification requirements in the US when I've been doing it for 14yrs.
Fucking lol. -
2021-08-19 at 7:48 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Lol, and you'd be wrong.
I'm 100% in charge of taking new products from design to manufacturing, to certification, to selling…I even do most of the design work these days and then hand it over to our contract Engineer to make my design come to life.
It's not hard work, lol.
ETL/UL certification is basically paying them submitting a sample along with the datasheets for components, then ordering the UL/ETL labels when it gets approved.
Sometimes they require a component change or removal of certain features to comply with the standard.
Easy shit, a couple of dozen emails back and forth. As I said I'm right now in the process of having 8 previously uncertified products certified..the bill was $16,800. I've spent about ummm 4hrs maybe total time. The ETL engineer has approved it and it's gone to final review (which takes about 2 weeks).
You clearly have no clue what you are talking about…the tales I could tell you about UL/TUV/ETL's incompetence…wakeup call, the only care about the $$$$$$$$.
TODAY..I just discovered a switch we used is only rated at 15A…the product it's in is 20A…UL approved that in 1998…dozens of UL/TUV/ETL inspectors have since 1998 done their quarterly inspections and NOT NOTICED IT.
Fucking worthless lololo.
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soooooooooo what does that have to do with regulation IF YOU DON'T FUCKING USE GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS IN YOUR SPECIFIC INDUSTRY HOLY SHIT HOW FUCKING RETARDED ARE YOU??????
THATS EXACTLY WHAT I WANT FOR EVERY INDUSTRY SELF REGULATION. If thats what you do already GOOD FOR YOU but THE BUCK DOESNT SSTOP THERE EVERYTHINGF SHOULD BE SELF REGULATED
IMAGINE SELF REGULATED FIREARMS INSTEAD OF BAN THIS BECAUSE IT HURTS MY FEELINGS -
2021-08-19 at 7:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson The barista and the unemployed transgirl who listed being able to drive a forklift as one of his skills (both of whom are not in the US)…trying to "educate" me on product certification requirements in the US when I've been doing it for 14yrs.
Fucking lol.
I DONT FUCKING CARE ABOUT US PRODUCT CERTIFICATION REQUIRMENTS I AM TALKING ABOUT INFDUSTRY GOVERNMENT REGULATION AND HOW IT AFFECTS INDUSTRY.
LEGALIZE ALL DRUGS AND SELF REGULATE THEM BY INDUSTRY, FUCK THE GOVERNMENT NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR MIDDLE MANAGEMENT JOB YOUR RETARD SPERGF HURRR DURRRR I PUSHED PAPERS ALL DAY LOOK AT HOW IMPORTANT I AM -
2021-08-19 at 7:50 PM UTCWHAT DO YOU PRODUCE???????
