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  1. Originally posted by AngryOnion This is science not politics people.

    They would rather have politics.
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  2. AngryOnion Big Wig [the nightly self-effacing broadsheet]
    Politics are about as useful as sports at this point.
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  3. Originally posted by aldra I was just giving her a complimentary surprise vaccination

    children who have had sex early in life are immune to the traumas of rapes later in their lives,

    vaccinate your children against rapes.

    now.
  4. Originally posted by AngryOnion This is science not politics people.

    scientists and politicians are both the same thing working on different datasets.
  5. Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by AngryOnion Association of Myocarditis With BNT162b2 Messenger RNA COVID-19 Vaccine in a Case Series of Children.
    Question What are the findings on cardiac imaging in children with myocarditis after COVID-19 vaccination?

    Findings In this case series of 15 children who were hospitalized with myocarditis after receipt of the BNT162b2 messenger RNA COVID-19 vaccine for 1 to 5 days, boys were most often affected after the second vaccine dose, 3 patients had ventricular systolic dysfunction, and 12 patients had late gadolinium enhancement on cardiac magnetic resonance imaging. There was no mortality, and all but 1 patient had normal echocardiogram results on follow-up 1 to 13 days after discharge.

    Meaning COVID-19 vaccine-associated myocarditis may have a benign short-term course in children; however, the long-term risks remain unknown
    Full story here.
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2783052?guestAccessKey=76e27816-102d-48c2-924b-53c21e5a7b53&utm_source=For_The_Media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_content=tfl&utm_term=081021

    You’ve ignored me every time I actually took the time to read your copy pasta and links in the past so before I waste my time commenting on that article I’d like to ask if you’ve actually read it, and if you have what you think it’s actually saying.
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  6. Originally posted by vindicktive vinny children who have had sex early in life are immune to the traumas of rapes later in their lives,

    vaccinate your children against rapes.

    now.

    You're friggen whacked, vader.
  7. Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ You're friggen whacked, vader.

    attack the science, not the scientist.
  8. AngryOnion Big Wig [the nightly self-effacing broadsheet]
    Originally posted by Lanny You’ve ignored me every time I actually took the time to read your copy pasta and links in the past so before I waste my time commenting on that article I’d like to ask if you’ve actually read it, and if you have what you think it’s actually saying.

    I did read the article.
    People are getting heart inflammation from the "vaccine".
  9. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition




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  10. Originally posted by AngryOnion I did read the article.
    People are getting heart inflammation from the "vaccine".

    15 people…which is a pretty small case study, and they had normal echocardiogram results on follow-up 1 to 13 days after discharge.
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  11. stl1 Cum Lickin' Fagit
    Make 'em

    All

    Get

    A shot



    The Hill
    Vaccine mandate poses major test for Pentagon chief
    Ellen Mitchell


    Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin's decision to require the COVID-19 vaccine for all military personnel is shaping up to be a major test of his leadership that risks souring his relationship with the rank-and-file.

    The move, which would add the coronavirus vaccine to the Pentagon's list of required shots by mid-September and apply to the nation's roughly 2 million service members, already has Austin battling calls from conservatives to keep the immunization voluntary.

    And a vaccine mandate before the shot gets full approval by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is likely to create a slew of legal fights from troops who have thus far refused to get vaccinated.

    "I think it is going to engender a lot of unnecessary backlash," said Mark Cancian, a former defense specialist in the government who's now a senior adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

    "There are going to be court cases. . . . It'll be a mess."

    It is not uncommon for the Pentagon to require certain inoculations for its service members when they enter the military or before they deploy overseas. The military already makes mandatory 17 shots, including for measles, mumps, diphtheria, hepatitis, smallpox and the flu.

    Austin, a former four-star general who retired in 2016 after serving in the Army for 41 years, was mandated to receive immunizations during his military career.

    "Members of the military understand when you sign up for the military, that there are requirements laid upon you," Pentagon press secretary John Kirby told reporters on Monday. "Some of those requirements include being healthy and fit and ready to serve. Some of that depends on our requirement to make sure you're fit and healthy, through inoculation and vaccination."

    The Pentagon has not previously required the COVID-19 vaccine for its personnel as it remains under FDA emergency use authorization. The department instead has been strongly encouraging troops to get the shot.

    A majority of active-duty service members have heeded that advice, with 73 percent of them receiving at least one dose, and roughly 62 percent are fully vaccinated.

    But that figure is closer to only 50 percent when you add in personnel from the Guard and Reserve forces, with a little more than 1 million service members fully vaccinated and another 240,000 partially immunized, according to Pentagon data updated on Wednesday.

    Polls consistently show that among U.S. adults overall, reluctance or outright opposition to the vaccine is largely concentrated among Republicans. In the military, anti-vaccination misinformation is playing a big role in the high number of vaccine holdouts in the military, according to some experts.

    The pending mandate -- expected to come by Sept. 15 or sooner through either a presidential waiver or when it receives final approval from FDA -- will mean the hundreds of thousands of military personnel who have thus far held out could face punishment if they refuse to get vaccinated.

    "If it's treated like any lawful order, there could be administrative and disciplinary repercussions for failing to obey the order," Kirby said Tuesday.

    That doesn't sit well with a number of Republican lawmakers, some of whom have sparred with Austin over social issues in the past.

    Rep. Mark Green (R-Tenn.), an Army veteran and member of the House Armed Services Committee, argued on Twitter this week that service members who do not wish to receive the vaccine "cannot be required to do so until the approval process is completed. Any action to require it is illegal."

    Green, who on Friday led a letter signed by 16 House Republicans urging the Pentagon chief not to issue a mandate, extolled the vaccine as "safe and effective," but said any mandate ahead of FDA approval "is an unprecedented violation of federal law."

    Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.), meanwhile, has introduced a bill meant to prohibit a COVID-19 vaccine mandate for troops. Among the bill's 30 Republican co-sponsors are Green and Rep. Matt Gaetz (Fla.), who in June sparred with Austin over critical race theory being taught at military institutions.

    Massie - who in May was issued a $500 fine for refusing to wear a mask on the House floor - last week tweeted that he had been contacted by service members "to express they will leave the military if forced to take the COVID vaccine."

    And Rep. Clay Higgins (R-La.), sent Austin a letter on Monday threatening a legal and "Congressional response" if the vaccine is mandated.

    "The current reported plan to force vaccinations on military personnel prior to FDA approval will rightfully bring forth a strong Article III challenge on many fronts," Higgins wrote.

    If Austin seeks to mandate the COVID-19 vaccine before FDA approval, he must request a waiver from President Biden. The Pentagon chief has already put the Defense Department on notice that he may go that route should infection rates rise even faster due to the highly contagious delta variant.

    "I will not hesitate to act sooner or recommend a different course to the President if l feel the need to do so," Austin wrote in his Monday memo announcing the coming mandate.

    But Cancian said such a route is "going to be a political problem for the secretary."

    "They should use their tools for persuasion first and use those aggressively" to incentivize troops to get the shot, including limiting travel and activities such as gym usage for those who decline to get vaccinated.

    "When all of those avenues are exhausted then they can make it mandatory. You want to make that group that refuses to get vaccinated as small as possible so that when you take actions it's minor and doesn't get to become as big a thing."

    That kind of pressure could be alleviated if Austin waits until full FDA approval, a designation that would put the Pentagon on more solid legal ground in requiring the vaccine.

    It also would help the Defense Department avoid the pitfalls that ensued the last time the military required a shot under emergency-use authorization, which happened in 1998 with the anthrax vaccine.

    The Pentagon became entangled in several court battles over the shot, which did not receive full FDA approval until 2004 and has since only been given on a limited basis to troops deploying to high-risk locations.

    Details on what the new policy will mean for service members are still being worked out, and Austin is expected to reveal them in an upcoming order.

    Other Pentagon personnel, including civilians and contractors, will also receive information in the coming weeks on the requirements and any restrictions that may result if they don't get the shot.

    Because the specifics are still being finalized, it's unclear how much the Pentagon's mandate will differ from state-level mandates like California's, where government employees are required to be vaccinated or face a weekly testing. That mandate applies to the California Army and Air National Guard as well as the California State Guard.

    A military-wide order, however, is unlikely to allow much wiggle room for those who don't want the shot.

    Troops with valid health conditions might receive an exemption to the mandate, along with those with religious beliefs that prohibit the use of vaccines, according to Kirby.

    Any punishment for service members that refuse to get vaccinated will likely be handled at the command level, he added.
  12. stl1 Cum Lickin' Fagit
    Maybe

    All you assholes anti-vaxxers need to

    Go and take

    A good look at what your obstinance results get us




    The Hill
    Texas health official 'frightened by what is coming' as COVID-19 cases mount
    Celine Castronuovo


    A top Texas county health official told state lawmakers this week that he is "frightened by what is coming" as hospitals become overwhelmed by COVID-19 surges caused by the highly transmissible delta variant.

    Esmaeil Porsa, the president and CEO of the Harris County health system, said in testimony before the Texas Senate Committee on Health and Human Services that the growing number of hospitalizations in the state should worry lawmakers, with more than 10,000 residents admitted to hospitals this week alone.

    "If this continues, and I have no reason to believe that it will not, there is no way my hospital is going to be able to handle this. There is no way the region is going to be able to handle this," Porsa said.

    "I am one of those people that always sees the glass half-full, I always see the silver lining," Porsa explained. "But I am frightened by what is coming."

    On Wednesday alone, the Texas Department of Health recorded 14,214 newly confirmed COVID-19 cases and more than 100 new deaths due to the virus.

    According to The New York Times, at least 53 Texas hospitals were at maximum capacity in their intensive care units.

    The surge is also impacting children at a higher rate, with the American Academy of Pediatrics revealing this week that children are accounting for 15 percent of COVID-19 cases in the U.S.

    On Tuesday, The Dallas Morning News reported that only two pediatric intensive care unit beds were available in the Dallas area.

    Hospitals and public health experts across the country are ramping up their warnings about the recent outbreaks, which are largely occurring among unvaccinated communities across the country.

    The infections and pressure on hospitals come as local officials in Texas are challenging Gov. Greg Abbott's (R) ban on mask mandates in schools.

    Abbott and state Attorney General Ken Paxton (R) are asking an appeals court to strike down an order from Dallas County requiring residents to wear masks in schools and businesses.

    On Tuesday, a judge approved a request for a temporary restraining order against Abbott's ban filed by officials from Bexar County and San Antonio.
  13. Both Covid and the vaccines are good things since they both kill people and both weed out the weak. We need to have daily vaccinations and more money for gain of function research in China.
  14. stl1 Cum Lickin' Fagit
    CDC Urges COVID Vaccines During Pregnancy As Delta Surges
    Expectant women run a higher risk of severe illness and pregnancy complications from the coronavirus, including perhaps miscarriages and stillbirths.
    Associated Press


    (AP) – The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention urged all pregnant women Wednesday to get the COVID-19 vaccine as hospitals in hot spots around the U.S. see disturbing numbers of unvaccinated mothers-to-be seriously ill with the virus.

    Expectant women run a higher risk of severe illness and pregnancy complications from the coronavirus, including perhaps miscarriages and stillbirths. But their vaccination rates are low, with only about 23% having received at least one dose, according to CDC data.

    ‘’The vaccines are safe and effective, and it has never been more urgent to increase vaccinations as we face the highly transmissible delta variant and see severe outcomes from COVID-19 among unvaccinated pregnant people,’’ CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said in a statement.

    The updated guidance comes after a CDC analysis of new safety data on 2,500 women showed no increased risks of miscarriage for those who received at least one dose of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine before 20 weeks of pregnancy. The analysis found a miscarriage rate of around 13%, within the normal range.

    The CDC’s advice echoes recent recommendations from top obstetrician groups. The agency had previously encouraged pregnant women to consider vaccination but had stopped short of a full recommendation. The new advice also applies to nursing mothers and women planning to get pregnant.

    Although pregnant women were not included in studies that led to authorization of COVID-19 vaccines, experts say real-world experience in tens of thousands of women shows that the shots are safe for them and that when given during pregnancy may offer some protection to newborns.

    The new guidance comes amid a surge in COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations and deaths in the U.S., driven by the highly contagious delta variant.

    Some health authorities believe the variant may cause more severe disease — in pregnant women and others as well — than earlier versions of the virus, though that is still under investigation.

    National figures show the latest surge in cases among pregnant women is lower than it was during the outbreak’s winter peak. But at some hospitals in states with low vaccination rates, the numbers of sick mothers-to-be outpace those during earlier surges, before vaccines were available.

    “This is by far the worst we’ve seen in the pandemic,’’ said Dr. Jane Martin, an obstetrician with Ochsner Baptist Medical Center in New Orleans. She added: “It’s disheartening and it’s exhausting. It feels like it doesn’t have to be like this.”

    At the beginning of the pandemic and with each surge, Ochsner had a few pregnant patients very sick with the virus, though the numbers had dwindled in recent months.

    “A week or two ago that pace changed drastically,’’ Martin said. “We have had multiple critically ill pregnant patients admitted’’ every day, most requiring intensive care.

    Martin said she has taken care of at least 30 pregnant patients hospitalized with COVID-19 over the last two weeks. Most were unvaccinated.

    Experts say the lifting of mask rules and other social distancing precautions and the rise of the delta variant have contributed to the worrisome trend. But also, vaccinations weren’t made available to women of childbearing age and others under 65 until spring.

    Early in her pregnancy, Tennessee kindergarten teacher Sara Brown decided she would wait until the baby was born to get the shots. There wasn’t much safety data yet about getting vaccinated during pregnancy, and at 36, she was young, healthy and “figured if I did get it, it would probably just be a bad cold.’’

    But what seemed like a sinus infection in June turned into severe COVID-19, landing her in a Nashville intensive care unit for five days, on oxygen and struggling to breathe.

    Her daughter Suzie was born healthy on Aug. 2. But it was a harrowing experience.

    “Not being able to catch your breath is such a panicky feeling, knowing I had life inside me that could be suffering too,’’ she said.

    At Vanderbilt University Medical Center, where Brown was treated, there were no infected pregnant patients early in July. Now the hospital is admitting four to five a week, all unvaccinated, said obstetrician Dr. Jennifer Thompson. About 20% of those patients are being treated in the intensive care unit, compared with 11% during previous surges, she said.

    For some pregnant patients critically ill with COVID-19, organs begin to fail and doctors induce labor early or deliver babies by cesarean section as a last resort, said Dr. Jeannie Kelly, an obstetrician at Washington University Medical Center in St. Louis.

    About 20% of all patients admitted for labor and delivery last week at the St. Louis hospital are infected, more than double the rate during the COVID-19 surge in Missouri last year, she said. About one-third of these women are critically ill.

    Around 105,000 pregnant U.S. women have been infected with COVID-19, and almost 18,000 have been hospitalized, according to the CDC. About one-fourth of those received intensive care and 124 died.

    Pregnancy-related changes in body functions may explain why the virus can be dangerous for mothers-to-be. These include reduced lung capacity and adjustments in the disease-fighting immune system that protect and help the fetus grow.

    The risks are disproportionately high for Black and Hispanic women, who are more likely to face health care and economic inequalities that increase their chances of getting sick.

    Some studies suggest the virus can also increase the risks of preterm birth and stillbirth, and in rare cases, it appears to have passed from mother to fetus.

    Martin, the New Orleans obstetrician, noted that local hospitals are also treating increasing numbers of children and babies sick with COVID-19, some of whom may have been infected after birth by unvaccinated mothers.

    Martin was pregnant when she got her own shots last winter. She delivered a healthy baby girl a week after the last shot.

    “Vaccinating people is the only way out,’’ she said.
  15. Originally posted by frala 15 people…which is a pretty small case study, and they had normal echocardiogram results on follow-up 1 to 13 days after discharge.

    having undetected abnormalities isnt the same as being normal.
  16. Originally posted by Donald Trump Both Covid and the vaccines are good things since they both kill people and both weed out the weak. We need to have daily vaccinations and more money for gain of function research in China.

    china isnt going to be fooled again twice.
  17. Originally posted by vindicktive vinny having undetected abnormalities isnt the same as being normal.

    Yes we know you are the leading expert on having undetected abnormalities.
  18. the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
    there aren't enough people dying, this is boring
  19. Originally posted by frala Yes we know you are the leading expert on having undetected abnormalities.

    indeed i m.
  20. stl1 Cum Lickin' Fagit
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny having undetected abnormalities isnt the same as being normal.



    And god knows you are the poster child for abnormal.
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