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World to hit temperature tipping point 10 years faster than forecast
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2021-08-08 at 6:16 PM UTCDenial occurs after we have taken in information and consciously reject it to avoid an uncomfortable truth. William Catton termed this behavior ‘ostrichism’ or the strategy of sticking your head in the figurative sand and expecting an issue to go away or persistent belief nothing will change and refusal to face facts.
A recent theory of mind proposes it may have been central to our development as a species. Ajit Varki and Danny Brower’s “Mind Over Reality Transition” theory provides significant reasoning for our trajectory to date. They suggest we have succeeded as a species due in large part to an evolved denial of reality, but this behavior is now a disadvantage and preventing a majority of us from recognizing and acting on systemic issues such as climate change. -
2021-08-08 at 7:10 PM UTC
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2021-08-08 at 9:59 PM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe Denial occurs after we have taken in information and consciously reject it to avoid an uncomfortable truth. William Catton termed this behavior ‘ostrichism’ or the strategy of sticking your head in the figurative sand and expecting an issue to go away or persistent belief nothing will change and refusal to face facts.
A recent theory of mind proposes it may have been central to our development as a species. Ajit Varki and Danny Brower’s “Mind Over Reality Transition” theory provides significant reasoning for our trajectory to date. They suggest we have succeeded as a species due in large part to an evolved denial of reality, but this behavior is now a disadvantage and preventing a majority of us from recognizing and acting on systemic issues such as climate change.
That sounds exactly like what you do. -
2021-08-08 at 10:49 PM UTC
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2021-08-09 at 12:40 AM UTCClimate change is rapidly destabilizing the environment.
An overwhelming majority of climate scientists agree humans are the primary cause of climate change. 15,000 scientists, the most to ever co-sign and formally support a published journal article, recently (2017) called on humankind to curtail environmental destruction and cautioned that “a great change in our stewardship of the Earth and the life on it is required, if vast human misery is to be avoided.” Carbon emissions are rising at increasing rates globally and far from enabling us to stay under the goal of two degrees of global average warming. A global average increase of 2°C is very likely locked in and will already incur significant consequences. In addition to increased atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases, many disrupted systems could potentially trigger various positive or negative feedbacks within the larger system and exponentially accelerate climate change.
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Surveys_of_scientists%27_views_on_climate_change
https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/11/4/048002
https://academic.oup.com/bioscience/article/67/12/1026/4605229
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/11/06/climate/world-emissions-goals-far-off-course.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/national/2015/11/29/carbon/
https://www.unenvironment.org/resources/emissions-gap-report-2018
https://www.wri.org/blog/2018/12/new-global-co2-emissions-numbers-are-they-re-not-good
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Climate_change_feedback
Biodiversity is falling. The current species extinction rate is 1,000 to 10,000 times greater than the natural background rate. The Living Planet Index showed a 60% decline in global wildlife populations between 1970 and 2014.
https://www.biologicaldiversity.org/programs/biodiversity/elements_of_biodiversity/extinction_crisis/
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-03891-1
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-37775622
Our sources of food and water are diminishing. Global crop yields are expected to fall by 10% over the next 30 years as a result of land degradation and climate change.
An estimated 38% of the world’s cropland has been degraded or has reduced water and nutrient availability. Four billion people currently live under conditions of severe water scarcity at least one month per year. Global agriculture is still extremely dependant on fossil fuels for processing, fertilization, and transportation.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/only-60-years-of-farming-left-if-soil-degradation-continues/
https://www.fewresources.org/soil-science-and-society-were-running-out-of-dirt.html
http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/2/2/e1500323
http://www.fao.org/3/i2454e/i2454e00.pdf -
2021-08-09 at 1 AM UTC
Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ That sounds exactly like what you do.
The only information you have offered to this discussion is a political cartoon. That's actually kind of poetic when you think about it. All you have to offer is a joke. In your feeble and twisted mind collapse is a political issue, and something that you don't have to think about or care about much more than whether or not you think "your team" is winning. And that’s where you're mistaken. They don't consider you a part of the team. Just a useful pawn, ready to be sacrificed for the end game.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-08-09 at 1:06 AM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe The only information you have offered to this discussion is a political cartoon. That's actually kind of poetic when you think about it. All you have to offer is a joke. In your feeble and twisted mind collapse is a political issue, and something that you don't have to think about or care about much more than whether or not you think "your team" is winning. And that’s where you're mistaken. They don't consider you a part of the team. Just a useful pawn, ready to be sacrificed for the end game.
It's much more than just a political cartoon, it's an established fact - a fact you like to ignore. -
2021-08-09 at 10:18 AM UTC"It is a statement of fact, we cannot be any more certain; it is unequivocal and indisputable that humans are warming the planet."
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-58130705
https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6_WGI_Full_Report.pdf
https://us.cnn.com/2021/08/08/world/climate-warning-alok-sharma-cop26-ipcc-intl/index.html
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2021-08-09 at 10:24 AM UTCObbe you are trying to argue from authority by posting links to the same sort of globalist organisations who discredited themselves over the whole Trump-Russia thing, Covid, Brexit, mass migration, Iraq, etc.
People no longer trust your style of top-down authority, and with good reason. -
2021-08-09 at 10:26 AM UTC
Originally posted by Donald Trump Obbe you are trying to argue from authority by posting links to the same sort of globalist organisations who discredited themselves over the whole Trump-Russia thing, Covid, Brexit, mass migration, Iraq, etc.
People no longer trust your style of top-down authority, and with good reason.
Ignorance is the most prominent barrier to understanding collapse. Ignorance involves a conscious choice or series of choices to disregard information and develop an understanding of it.
Societal conditioning compels us to avoid any information which would disturb our sense of equanimity. Fear of personal responsibility and the inability to face present or future suffering are major triggers of this form of psychological resistance. Courage is required to venture through the unknown towards the reality of our predicament. -
2021-08-09 at 1:21 PM UTCThe solution is to build a sunblock in space than we can remotely move between the Earth and sun to block it out as needed (kind of like an artificial eclipse)...so when things get a little hot we could have 3 days of night for example...or make it a regular thing on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
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2021-08-09 at 1:35 PM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe "It is a statement of fact, we cannot be any more certain; it is unequivocal and indisputable that humans are warming the planet."
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-58130705
https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6_WGI_Full_Report.pdf
https://us.cnn.com/2021/08/08/world/climate-warning-alok-sharma-cop26-ipcc-intl/index.html
"We lied to you dozens of times over a period of decades, but this time we're super, super, super super sure we're not lying to you." -
2021-08-09 at 1:50 PM UTC
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2021-08-09 at 2:37 PM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe Ignorance is the most prominent barrier to understanding collapse. Ignorance involves a conscious choice or series of choices to disregard information and develop an understanding of it.
Societal conditioning compels us to avoid any information which would disturb our sense of equanimity. Fear of personal responsibility and the inability to face present or future suffering are major triggers of this form of psychological resistance. Courage is required to venture through the unknown towards the reality of our predicament.
You just like believing what you want to believe. Which is "these normies are all terrible and going to doom the world and I'm the good guy trying to save it". I'm sure it makes you feel special and morally superior.
You don't want to deal with uncomfortable politically incorrect truths, such as that normal people only care about what happens in their lifetime and in their region, and they aren't going to give up industrial civilisation, and that industrial civilisation is based on digging up fossilised carbon and burning it.
And what about people who are too dumb to even understand this shit? The world IQ is 82. That's an uncomfortable truth you choose not to believe. -
2021-08-09 at 2:44 PM UTC
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2021-08-09 at 2:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by RisiR † It is indeed irrational but that doesn't stop it from, maybe, being true. There's a bunch of stuff in physics that is completely irrational. Retrocausality for example that tells us that the future influences the past. The quantum zeno effect that tells us that an observer influences the decay of a particle. Human senses and perception are far from being the end all be all. Life on earth barely makes any sense what so ever yet here we are. The fact that we developed intelligence and can have this discussion is far far far more unlikely than us controlling the climate with that intelligence.
our intelligence is not special, neither is our existence. if your self esteem depends on that, go kill yourself.
a lot of things are "maybe true", dwelling on such bullshit is a waste of time. how about we talk about what we know and expand on it to better our lives rather than obsessing over what we have no control of? -
2021-08-09 at 3:18 PM UTCGlaciers have melted away at mountain ranges just under 5000 meters or 15,000 feet which is most of North America.
Global warming cause colder yet drier winters but hotter summers. It could also flip and cause a very dry mini ice age. Enough moisture to freeze.
WWIII would add a nuclear winter to this tipping point.
Keep fucking with China with threats of protecting Taiwan and it just might happen. -
2021-08-09 at 3:19 PM UTC
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2021-08-09 at 3:57 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kev how about we talk about what we know and expand on it to better our lives rather than obsessing over what we have no control of?
Then we should talk about ways to combat climate change but you are obviously a complete idiot so talking to you about anything is pointless.
"better our lives" hahaha, pathetic cop out. If you need a good life to get shit done you are useless by default.
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2021-08-09 at 4:03 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kev our intelligence is not special, neither is our existence.
Also, this might be the dumbest thing I've ever read.if your self esteem depends on that, go kill yourself.
My self-esteem only and exclusively depends on things I have accomplished myself and to be honest defeating climate change isn't one of them but it would sure be a nice badge to add to my collection.
