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THE MAGA PARTY!,,, the GOP is dead, republicans are going down with the dems,, get ready for THE MAGA PARTY lefty's
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2021-07-23 at 9:37 AM UTCnigger please! get some facts," Yet people familiar with the PAC's finances told the news outlet" hearsay from a made up source unverifiable
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2021-07-23 at 11:22 AM UTC
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2021-07-23 at 12:02 PM UTCI deserve to wet my beak a little.
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2021-07-23 at 3:04 PM UTCTRUMP IS A CUCK, he couldnt pull the trigger... its up to us WE THE PEOPLE to save this country from the commies like tech and AOC
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2021-07-23 at 3:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by POLECAT TRUMP IS A CUCK, he couldnt pull the trigger… its up to us WE THE PEOPLE to save this country from the commies like tech and AOC
Trump couldn't do it alone, because the commies would have buried him. The only way he could win is to let the American people see for themselves that the system has been corrupted to the core by these treasonous rats, and that's exactly what is happening. No Trump around to blame this time either. Trump will be back in his rightful place a lot sooner than you think. -
2021-07-23 at 3:39 PM UTCThe Washington Post
In one quote, the core of the effort to undermine the 2020 election is revealed
Philip Bump
It’s probably safe to assume that Donald Trump isn’t terribly concerned about undermining the results of the presidential election in Texas. After all, he won the state by six points and, so far, his flailing attempts to raise questions about his loss have centered on the states where he actually did.
But Texas state Rep. Steve Toth (R) has very much taken his party's rhetoric about voter fraud to heart. So the legislator from suburban Houston is proposing that there be a “forensic audit” of the results of the 2020 contest in his state. That science-ish-sounding term is very much in vogue at the moment, and we'll come back to it.
Toth’s proposal, though, is accompanied by a very important asterisk: It would only require investigation by counties with more than 415,000 people, as The Washington Post’s Eva Ruth Moravec reported on Thursday. There are 13 such counties in the state, 10 of which voted for President Biden last year. The 13th-most populous county, Cameron County, preferred Biden by a 13-point margin. If you kept going down the ranks of most-populous counties, incidentally, the next five most populous counties all preferred Trump. Convenient place to stop the review!
But Toth is not shy about the convenience at play. Moravec spoke with him and he explained his thinking.
[W]hile Toth said he would support a statewide effort, he also argued the undertaking would be too expensive and time-consuming. Asked if he would consider including some smaller counties, Toth replied, “What’s the point? I mean, all the small counties are red.”
And that, right there, is the crux of the issue.
No one in the United States has done more to undermine confidence in elections than Trump. But he didn’t invent the idea. That there is rampant fraudulent voting in the country attributable to Democratic criminals is a long-standing assumption on the right. Trump internalized and leveraged this line of rhetoric because it offered him a convenient defense against twice losing the presidential popular vote. It wasn’t that American voters preferred Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, it was that Democrats cheated, to the tune of 3 million and 7 million votes, respectively.
The scale of that allegation alone is laughable: Somehow 18 times more illegal votes were cast in 2020 than there were home burglaries in 2019, but authorities could only identify two dozen? And this occurred despite the incredibly complicated logistics of conducting such a crime, from the thousands of people at various levels of government who’d need to be involved to the sheer luck required to cast the ballots without conflicting with actual voter preferences. But recent Economist-YouGov polling shows that most Republicans — three-quarters of them — do think this happened last year. Research from Pew Research Center published on Thursday shows that only 30 percent of Republicans have any confidence that Americans are prevented from casting illegal votes. (Most Democrats are correctly confident that illegal voting is not rampant.)
It’s important to realize that it’s not just that Republicans think fraud occurs regularly; it’s that they think fraud occurs regularly without detection to the Democrats’ benefit. Hence Toth’s quote shrugging about red counties. Hence Trump’s repeated intonations that all the fraudulent votes that were cast benefited Biden, layering an unprovable claim on top of an unprovable claim.
This is also why the “forensic audit” movement is so ridiculous. You’re probably familiar with the flagship “audit” in Arizona, now entering its fourth month. It has been repeatedly questioned for a variety of reasons, most of which are downstream from the fact that it’s deeply partisan. It’s not an audit of the results in Arizona, just in Maricopa County, the state’s largest county and one that Biden won. I mean, why look at other counties? Most of them are red!
Sarcasm aside, this is actually an important point. What we have in Arizona is a conclusion looking for evidence, not a search for evidence looking to reach a conclusion. Arizona Republicans think something bad happened and are trying to prove it. It’s akin to security agents from a totalitarian regime showing up at the house of an opposition leader looking for evidence of espionage. Do you think they’re not going to find things that could be construed as condemning?
And do you think that a similar search of their own houses wouldn’t yield the same result? This was a feature of such regimes in the Cold War era: Loyalists who suddenly found themselves on the outside also found themselves vulnerable to the same tricks they’d once deployed. If you applied the same hurricane of “review” to Arizona counties besides Maricopa with the same level of confirmation bias, the results would unquestionably be the same.
For all of the foolishness of the statistical reviews of the election conducted by a guy named Douglas Frank — reviews basically proving that a series of data will correlate with an average of data from the series — he is at least honest in applying his analysis to even Trump-voting counties in states. And, there, he finds the same “proof” of fraud as in blue counties (since, again, his analysis is self-confirming). In other words, looking to prove fraud generally, he uses an instrument so blunt that it finds fraud everywhere — which Trump’s allies then use to argue that there was fraud that harmed Trump.
Toth isn’t the only legislator to propose an audit in his state, even if he’s the most honest one. Republicans in Georgia and Michigan (two other states Biden flipped) have made similar calls, with a review of ballots in Biden-voting Fulton County in Georgia earning coverage on Tucker Carlson’s Fox News show. Once again what was found was the sort of edge-case weirdnesses that occur in every election, probably more frequently in more populous places. Review other counties and you’d almost certainly find similar oddities — and almost certainly find no more actual proof of fraud.
In Pennsylvania, state Sen. Doug Mastriano (R) has sent letters to several counties demanding information about the election. (Mastriano, like other Republican legislators, traveled to Arizona to get a sense for how it was conducting its “audit.”) Three counties that have received such requests from Mastriano are Tioga County (21,000 votes, won by Trump), York County (239,000 votes, won by Trump) and Philadelphia County (744,000 votes, won by Biden). It’s not clear how the counties were selected, but it’s pretty obvious that Mastriano is mostly interested in the third of those three. Do some Stasi-esque poking around in Philly and it won’t take long to gin up enough “questionable” votes to convince the base that Trump won Pennsylvania.
Mastriano hasn't said that he's focusing on Philadelphia in the way Toth was so honest about his priorities. But he has revealed his biases in other ways, like showing up at the Capitol on Jan. 6.
All of this flows downhill from Trump’s unproven and indefensible claims about election fraud. And that flows downhill from the long-standing assumption that rampant fraud occurs and benefits Democrats. Even with the close examination Trump prompted (but hasn’t financially supported) after 2020, there’s no evidence that this is the case, just as there hasn’t been in following reviews after any recent election. It’s an article of faith, born of partisan distrust.
Toth doesn’t even try to mask it. -
2021-07-23 at 3:52 PM UTCMake
Another
Grift
Again
-or-
Make
Americans
Go read the fine print
Again
(Or...there's a sucker born every minute and Trump is going to fleece them of their hard-earned money)
Slate
Donald Trump Is Keeping the Money
Elliot Hannon
The rub was always in the fine print. Even after Donald Trump, the actual president of the United States, lost the 2020 election, he cranked up the outrage machine claiming election fraud, hinting at grand conspiracies, and sending Rudy Giuliani barnstorming to provide visuals, footage, new cautious news stories, that could be used to help spin the many, many yarns he was spinning on the fly. Meanwhile, Trump and his associated PACs raked in hundreds of millions on the chaos, confusion, and destruction. Their fundraising emails shouted things like “We MUST defend the Election from the Left!” as they soaked up cash from low-dollar donors who believed the president. The small print at the bottom whispered something very different: the first 75 percent of these #StoptheSteal donations to the Trump fundraising apparatus were redirected to Trump’s Save America leadership PAC, which was for Trump to spend more or less as he wished.
The entirety of Donald Trump’s life so far has been, essentially, a string of grifts and so it’s unsurprising that his presidential (and post-presidential) life has been no different. The election outrage that Trump fomented in pockets of deep red Trump country has shaken the democratic foundations of the country and, once again, allowed Trump to pull off a sleight of hand and pocket tens of millions of dollars. The Washington Post reports that Trump’s Save America leadership PAC, which raised some $75 million in the first half of 2021 on the back of his barrage of lies about the 2020 election, has yet to spend any of that money in support the recounts, ballot reviews, and other shenanigans he inspired in Republican-run statehouses across the country. Ahead of the July 31 filing date for how the organization has spent its money, Trump confidantes explained to the Post that Trump was “uninterested in personally bankrolling the efforts, relying on other entities and supporters to fund the endeavors.”
Instead, Trump’s keeping the money to play around with. Though a Trump adviser dutifully clung to the Trump election racket, telling the Post that Trump had not ruled out spending the money on state ballot review efforts “at some point down the road.” Uh-huh. Instead, the money has gone to funding Trump’s professional lifestyle, which is inextricably intertwined with Trump’s personal existence and the ecosystem of the Trump’s long grift. That long play may involve running for president again, though it may not, but either way it requires relevance and a platform, both of which are made possible by those large wads of cash. The money demands attention from candidates, voters, and therefore media, the attention, in turn, produces more cash. So Donald Trump isn’t going anywhere because he has finally found a swindle in American politics where he can quite literally just ask people for money and they simply give it to him by the millions. It’s not complicated. It never is with Trump. He’s just doing thing he telegraphed he would do from the very beginning and stated explicitly in the small print. -
2021-07-23 at 6:57 PM UTCNewsweek
GOP Governor Larry Hogan Blasts 'Completely Absurd' Republican Defense of January 6
Jason Lemon
Maryland's Governor Larry Hogan, a Republican, condemned fellow GOP lawmakers "completely absurd" defense of the events of January 6, when former President Donald Trump's supporters violently attacked the U.S. Capitol.
Hogan has frequently criticized Trump, particularly amid the president's response to the COVID-19 pandemic and in the wake of the January 6 insurrection against the federal government. The Maryland governor called out GOP lawmakers who have defended and downplayed the violent actions of the former president's supporters during an episode of CBS News' The Takeout podcast published on Friday.
"We have to get to the bottom of exactly what happened [on January 6]. And there's no whitewashing," Hogan asserted. "We need to get all the facts and find out exactly what happened. But there's no way to just overlook this and say it didn't happen. The nonsense about 'these were just peaceful tourists' is completely absurd," he said.
Hogan also expressed support for GOP Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming, who was ousted from her leadership role as House Republican Conference chair in May due to her staunch opposition to Trump.
"I have a great deal of respect and admiration for Liz Cheney. I think she showed a lot of courage when there were not too many examples of profiles of courage," Hogan said. The Maryland Republicans said he would "try to help her in every way" he can as she seeks reelection in 2022.
While most Republicans have downplayed or attempted to move on from the events of January 6, Hogan, Cheney and a number of other high-profile GOP leaders have repeatedly condemned the events of that day and blamed Trump for what unfolded. The violence ensued after Trump urged his supporters at a nearby rally to "fight like hell" to keep him in office. Many in the crowd openly expressed a desire to harm or assassinate top Democratic and Republican lawmakers—including Vice President Mike Pence.
Senate Republicans blocked a bipartisan commission to investigate the events of January 6 from moving forward. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, a California Democrat, then launched a select committee with less power given to GOP lawmakers. She also appointed Cheney to serve on the committee.
In February, Hogan urged fellow Republicans to move beyond Trump and his divisive style of politics. "I think we've got to move on from the cult of Donald Trump and return to the basic principles that the party has always stood for," he said in an interview with NBC News' Meet the Press.
The Maryland governor later in May described Trump's presidency as the "worst four years" ever for the Republican Party.
"I think we've got to get back to winning elections again, and we have to be able to have a Republican Party that appeals to a broader group of people. And we have to get back to having a bigger tent as [former President Ronald] Reagan talked about and not continuing to—look, we had the worst four years we've had, ever, in the Republican Party [under Trump]," Hogan told Meet the Press.
Hogan pointed out that his party lost "the White House, the House of Representatives and the Senate" during Trump's tenure. -
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2021-07-23 at 7:36 PM UTC
Originally posted by stl1 Make
Another
Grift
Again
-or-
Make
Americans
Go read the fine print
Again
(Or…there's a sucker born every minute and Trump is going to fleece them of their hard-earned money)
Slate
Donald Trump Is Keeping the Money
Elliot Hannon
The rub was always in the fine print. Even after Donald Trump, the actual president of the United States, lost the 2020 election, he cranked up the outrage machine claiming election fraud, hinting at grand conspiracies, and sending Rudy Giuliani barnstorming to provide visuals, footage, new cautious news stories, that could be used to help spin the many, many yarns he was spinning on the fly. Meanwhile, Trump and his associated PACs raked in hundreds of millions on the chaos, confusion, and destruction. Their fundraising emails shouted things like “We MUST defend the Election from the Left!” as they soaked up cash from low-dollar donors who believed the president. The small print at the bottom whispered something very different: the first 75 percent of these #StoptheSteal donations to the Trump fundraising apparatus were redirected to Trump’s Save America leadership PAC, which was for Trump to spend more or less as he wished.
The entirety of Donald Trump’s life so far has been, essentially, a string of grifts and so it’s unsurprising that his presidential (and post-presidential) life has been no different. The election outrage that Trump fomented in pockets of deep red Trump country has shaken the democratic foundations of the country and, once again, allowed Trump to pull off a sleight of hand and pocket tens of millions of dollars. The Washington Post reports that Trump’s Save America leadership PAC, which raised some $75 million in the first half of 2021 on the back of his barrage of lies about the 2020 election, has yet to spend any of that money in support the recounts, ballot reviews, and other shenanigans he inspired in Republican-run statehouses across the country. Ahead of the July 31 filing date for how the organization has spent its money, Trump confidantes explained to the Post that Trump was “uninterested in personally bankrolling the efforts, relying on other entities and supporters to fund the endeavors.”
Instead, Trump’s keeping the money to play around with. Though a Trump adviser dutifully clung to the Trump election racket, telling the Post that Trump had not ruled out spending the money on state ballot review efforts “at some point down the road.” Uh-huh. Instead, the money has gone to funding Trump’s professional lifestyle, which is inextricably intertwined with Trump’s personal existence and the ecosystem of the Trump’s long grift. That long play may involve running for president again, though it may not, but either way it requires relevance and a platform, both of which are made possible by those large wads of cash. The money demands attention from candidates, voters, and therefore media, the attention, in turn, produces more cash. So Donald Trump isn’t going anywhere because he has finally found a swindle in American politics where he can quite literally just ask people for money and they simply give it to him by the millions. It’s not complicated. It never is with Trump. He’s just doing thing he telegraphed he would do from the very beginning and stated explicitly in the small print.
Lest you forget. -
2021-07-23 at 7:39 PM UTCLike Trump needs nickels and dimes, when he has 4 billion dollars already. This is the kind of mindless fools we're dealing with here.
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2021-07-23 at 7:56 PM UTCI have more power than TRUMP has
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2021-07-23 at 9:55 PM UTC
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2021-07-23 at 10:05 PM UTC
I go full giant-monkey mode in August.
Motherfucker. -
2021-07-23 at 10:17 PM UTCyee haa
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2021-07-23 at 10:30 PM UTC
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2021-07-23 at 10:31 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2021-07-24 at 5:31 AM UTCMake
Another
Grift
Again
-or-
Make
Americans
Go read the fine print
Again
(Or…there's a sucker born every minute and Trump is going to fleece them of their hard-earned money)
CNN
Surprise! Donald Trump isn't putting his money where his mouth is on election 'fraud'
Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large
These two paragraphs from The Washington Post are both unsurprising and deeply troubling:
"Former president Donald Trump's political PAC raised about $75 million in the first half of this year as he trumpeted the false notion that the 2020 election was stolen from him, but the group has not devoted funds to help finance the ongoing ballot review in Arizona or to push for similar endeavors in other states, according to people familiar with the finances.
"Instead, the Save America leadership PAC — which has few limits on how it can spend its money — has paid for some of the former president's travel, legal costs and staff, along with other expenses, according to the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the group's inner workings. The PAC has held onto much of its cash."
Add yet another proof point to this reality about Donald Trump and those around him: This is -- and always has been -- a grift. Trump realized early on in his time as a candidate that he could separate people from their money by promising them the world. And that, except in rare instances, he could then do as he pleased with what he had raised because the people didn't penalize him for not making good on his promises.
The formation and execution of Trump's Save America PAC is a perfect illustration of the basic Trump grift.
It was initially formed -- in the immediate wake of Trump's 2020 loss -- to ostensibly raise money to finance various election challenges around the country. Within days of the formation of the PAC, Trump's team has sent upwards of 100 email solicitations for it -- the vast majority focused on the made-up idea that he had been cheated out of the victory. One, sent in mid November, called on "every single Patriot ... to help DEFEND the integrity" of the election.
The PAC rapidly raised tens of millions of dollars. But, instead of spending some of that money on costly recount efforts in places like Arizona and Michigan, Trump has instead chose to use it for his own travel around the country as well as stockpile the vast majority of the funds as a way to retain his political power in the 2022 midterm election and, eventually, the 2024 presidential race.
As the Post's Josh Dawsey and Rosalind Helderman write:
"Even as he assiduously tracks attempts by his allies to cast doubt on the integrity of last year's election, Trump has been uninterested in personally bankrolling the efforts, relying on other entities and supporters to fund the endeavors, [the sources] said."
All of which raises one obvious question: If Trump truly believes that a) the election was stolen and b) evidence of that fact could come to light in these various attempted recounts around the country, then why would he not be willing to put his money where his mouth is? If the proof that he requires to be reinstated is somewhere out in America, wouldn't he spend every penny he had -- or, more accurately, every penny that has been donated to him post-election -- to uncover it?
Unless -- and stick with me here -- Trump knows the election fraud is itself a fraud, one he is perpetrating to drag down President Joe Biden while keeping his own chances of running and winning again high.
Of course, someone who would take advantage of people -- and put the very pillars of democracy in danger -- solely for his personal gain wouldn't be much of a leader, and certainly not presidential material. -
2021-07-24 at 5:59 AM UTCWho hires a hundred lawyers to hide a victory?
