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THE MAGA PARTY!,,, the GOP is dead, republicans are going down with the dems,, get ready for THE MAGA PARTY lefty's
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2021-05-12 at 4:26 PM UTC
Originally posted by stl1 In a long history of really stupid thoughts, this one takes the cake.
Liz Cheney is being courageous in speaking the truth about Donald Trump to Donald Trump and the Republican leadership over his BIG LIE about the election having been stolen and his actions surrounding Jan. 6th even going so far as being willing to lose her position of leadership over the truth.
Poley powerful? Give me a break.
You probably think you are being courageous when you side with the establishment too.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-05-12 at 4:39 PM UTCThe LA Times
Op-Ed: Liz Cheney's ouster proves the GOP is now entirely built on lies
Kurt Bardella
The other day, I triggered Fox News when, in talking to MSNBC anchor Nicolle Wallace about the state of the Republican Party, I compared the GOP to terrorists. I said: “The damage that this party is doing to our democracy, the damage that they are doing to our elections, to our integrity, to the entire foundation of our system is worse than anything that the people behind 9/11 did to our country.” Unfortunately, I wasn’t exaggerating about this radicalized anti-democratic Republican Party.
On Tuesday evening, Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) issued a similar warning from the House floor: "Today we face a threat America has never seen before. A former president, who provoked a violent attack on this Capitol in an effort to steal the election, has resumed his aggressive effort to convince Americans that the election was stolen from him. He risks inciting further violence. Millions of Americans have been misled by the former president. They have heard only his words, but not the truth, as he continues to undermine our democratic process, sowing seeds of doubt about whether democracy really works at all.”
Cheney’s ouster by the House Republicans from their leadership Wednesday morning was not a stunner. They purged Cheney for the high crime and misdemeanor of telling the truth about Donald Trump and the insurrection he promoted.
The gravest threat now to America’s freedom comes not from outside our borders, but from those who doubt that democracy works at all. If we saw a political faction in another country repudiate a free election as the GOP is doing right now, American diplomats would be calling out that crime.
On the first anniversary of 9/11, President George W. Bush returned to New York City and said, “We have no intention of ignoring or appeasing history's latest gang of fanatics trying to murder their way to power. They are discovering, as others before them, the resolve of a great country and a great democracy.”
Today’s “gang of fanatics” is the Republican Party. What we saw Jan. 6 was that their assault on the Constitution was their way to power. And on that very evening, just hours after thousands of domestic terrorists launched a violent siege on the Capitol, 139 Republicans in the House voted to overturn the results of the free and fair presidential election. Like despots, they wanted to erase legal votes cast by tens of millions of Americans.
Even the actions of a blood-thirsty mob inspired by Republican lies was not enough to return the GOP to the pro-democracy fold. Anyone who was still holding out hope that the Republican Party would retreat from “the big lie” should have abandoned that fantasy that evening.
Let’s be clear, there is no Republican “civil war.” That battle was fought and decided the evening of Jan. 6. It wasn’t even a battle. In the four months since, Republicans (but for a handful) have fully surrendered to Trump, just as they had the instant he became the Republican presidential nominee in 2016.
The drama playing out between Cheney and her Republican colleagues is more of a formality than a battle for the soul of the party. What happens next is a battle for the future of democracy.
Imagine what the insurrection would have achieved if Republicans held the majority in the House and Senate. They would have refused to certify the legitimate election of Joe Biden, prompting an unprecedented constitutional stress-test.
The likely ascension of Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.), who has spread outrageous false claims about the election, to replace Cheney as House Republican conference chair proves the party’s commitment to silencing the will of the people. Its goal is to finish what the insurrectionists started Jan. 6.
That is why the stakes could not be higher for the 2022 midterm elections. If Republicans are able to recapture a majority in the House or Senate, they will use that majority to reject the 2024 presidential election results if they don’t like the result.
Speaking defiantly Tuesday night, Cheney gave an impassioned defense of democracy and issued a challenge: “Our duty is clear. Every one of us who has sworn the oath must act to prevent the unraveling of our democracy... Remaining silent, and ignoring the lie, emboldens the liar. I will not participate in that.”
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2021-05-12 at 5:52 PM UTCNon responsive.
One question: Who won the last Presidential election?
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2021-05-12 at 5:55 PM UTC
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2021-05-12 at 6:04 PM UTCthe election results are still disputed,, people being mostly chicken shits couldnt wait to find out and crumbled under pressure so Joe got in because our man Trump said HOLD THE LINE,, WE ARE LAW AND ORDER!
and we listened and continue to hold the line cuz we know they want us to come for them so they can make us look like the bad guys.
so we fight using the constitution state to state to fight our way up the ranks to change this country back.
RICO is going to be a popular discussion in the news soon.
anyway we know trump most likely will not be back in office before 2024 and the military isnt going to save us.
we have to save ourselves.
and while that is taking our time Hunter Biden is toying with our pipelines and selling our oil to china so they can sell it back to us. -
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2021-05-12 at 7:01 PM UTCSo, THIS is your definition of
Making
America
Great
Again ? ? ?
Washington Examiner
Jeff Flake: 'There is no greater offense than honesty' in the GOP
Carly Roman
Former Sen. Jeff Flake, a frequent critic of his own party, said the GOP removed Rep. Liz Cheney from her leadership post for "speaking the truth."
Flake, who often butted heads with former President Donald Trump while serving as a senator from Arizona, joined other Trump political foes, such as Sen. Mitt Romney and Rep. Adam Kinzinger, in defending Cheney, who was booted from her leadership position by the House GOP caucus for her frequent criticism of the former president.
"Liz Cheney has been removed from House Leadership for speaking the truth," Flake tweeted after the vote. "In the end, truth will prevail."
Prior to Cheney's ouster, Flake accused the Republican Party of a "steady embrace of dishonesty."
"She will lose her position because she is refusing to play her assigned role in propagating the 'big lie' that the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump. Cheney is more dedicated to the long-term health of our constitutional system than she is to assuaging the former president’s shattered ego, and for her integrity she may well pay with her career," Flake wrote in a Tuesday opinion article for the Washington Post. "No, this is not the plot of a movie set in an asylum. Ladies and gentlemen, this is your contemporary Republican Party, where today there is no greater offense than honesty."
Flake accused 70% of Republican voters of suffering an "allergy to self-evident truth," perpetrating "ugly tolerance of the pernicious falsehood" and "bizarre and fanatical fable."
The former senator acknowledged that he didn't run for reelection in 2018 because he likely would not have survived a primary challenge due to Trump's popularity with his constituents.
"I had hoped that, over time, my Republican constituents would feel differently about the former president, or at least value a Republican who pushed back, and that I could stand for reelection in 2018 with a reasonable chance of surviving a Republican primary," he continued. "It soon became apparent that Republican voters wanted someone who was all in with a president that I increasingly saw as a danger to the republic. That could not be me, so I spoke out instead and didn’t stand for reelection."
Flake served in the Senate from 2013 to 2019. Now a private citizen, he has been among Trump's critics within the party, and the Arizona GOP censured him in January after he endorsed President Joe Biden's candidacy in the 2020 presidential election.
Cheney, the daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney, was one of 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach Trump on the charge of incitement of insurrection in connection to the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, although the Senate later acquitted him. Trump was previously impeached in the House on two Ukraine-related charges in 2019 before being acquitted in the Senate.
The two have clashed ever since, with Cheney saying Trump was no longer the leader of the GOP and refusing to back a potential 2024 presidential bid, and Trump vowing to endorse a primary challenge to Cheney ahead of her 2022 reelection campaign.
Despite objections from Flake, Romney, and others, most Republicans applauded Cheney's ouster, saying she no longer represented the position held by the majority of the GOP.
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy scheduled a Friday vote to replace Cheney with Rep. Elise Stefanik, a Trump ally whom McCarthy and Trump endorsed for the position. -
2021-05-12 at 7:11 PM UTCMcCARTHY: NOT QUESTIONING THE LEGITIMACY OF THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION
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PUT THIS IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT ! ! !
POLITICO
McCarthy after ousting Cheney: 'I don’t think anybody is questioning the legitimacy of the presidential election'
By Nick Niedzwiadek
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy on Wednesday papered over the significant skepticism of the 2020 presidential election within the GOP just hours after his conference deposed Rep. Liz Cheney for criticizing fellow Republicans over that very issue.
“I don’t think anybody is questioning the legitimacy of the presidential election,” McCarthy said after meeting with President Joe Biden at the White House alongside other Congressional leaders.
McCarthy’s comments run counter to the the campaign he green-lit to boot Cheney (R-Wyo.), until today the GOP's highest-ranking woman, from her role as conference chair. Cheney put herself at odds with former President Donald Trump and his wing of the party for openly admonishing him for repeatedly perpetuating false claims about the 2020 elections and his role in inciting a deadly riot at the Capitol last January.
“We have seen the danger that he continues to provoke with his language,” Cheney told reporters after Wednesday’s closed-door vote. “We have seen his lack of commitment and dedication to the constitution. And I think it’s very important that we make sure whomever we elect is somebody who will be faithful to the constitution.”
Trump has shown little indication that he has accepted that his loss to President Joe Biden was legitimate, and many of the former president’s supports have parroted his lies about this year’s elections.
On Tuesday night Trump issued a statement touting a proposed voter ID requirement in the United Kingdom, adding that the U.S. should adopt something similar “so we never again have an election rigged and stolen from us.”
McCarthy and others have argued Cheney had become a distraction and a hindrance to party unity, particularly as the No. 3 role is responsible for GOP messaging, among other duties.
“Each day spent re-litigating the past is one less day we have to seize the future," McCarthy wrote in a letter to Republican colleagues prior to the vote. "If we are to succeed in stopping the radical Democrat agenda from destroying our country, these internal conflicts need to be resolved so as not to detract from the efforts of our collective team.”
The minority leader is keenly interested in taking over the speaker’s gavel and views Trump’s continued support as key to Republicans winning in the 2022 midterms. As such McCarthy has embraced gambits such as objecting to certifying Biden’s victory in two states — a move seen as an attempt to overturn Trump’s loss and appeal to the former president — while denying that doing so delegitimizes Biden.
“I think that is all over with,” McCarthy said outside the White House. “We’re sitting here with the president today.” -
2021-05-12 at 7:24 PM UTC
Originally posted by stl1 In a long history of really stupid thoughts, this one takes the cake.
Liz Cheney is being courageous in speaking the truth about Donald Trump to Donald Trump and the Republican leadership over his BIG LIE about the election having been stolen and his actions surrounding Jan. 6th even going so far as being willing to lose her position of leadership over the truth.
Poley powerful? Give me a break.
She's not speaking the truth, she's speaking her worthless opinion. Big difference.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-05-12 at 7:25 PM UTCWashington Examiner
In ousting Cheney, House Republicans prove to be weaklings
Quin Hillyer
The rot within U.S. House Republican leadership is obvious.
The rot is evident in Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy’s jihad to jettison House Conference Chairwoman Liz Cheney in favor of an unaccomplished liberal Republican, while at the same time refusing to snub radical Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia and the scandal-ridden Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida. He does this all because Cheney refuses to back down from saying the same thing about the Jan. 6 Capitol riot that McCarthy himself originally said before he decided to go back to kissing former President Donald Trump’s ring.
Worse, McCarthy knew more directly than Cheney just how perfidious Trump’s behavior had been. Recall that McCarthy begged Trump on the phone to send aid against the Capitol rioters, and Trump refused. Trump knew full well that his own vice president’s life was in danger, yet he continued tweeting against Mike Pence after his conversation with McCarthy.
In evicting Cheney, McCarthy reveals himself as a political eunuch, willing to sacrifice truth, decency, and his own integrity. Worse, he does so on behalf of someone manifestly ill-prepared to do the job of Conference chairwoman. As my colleague Kaylee McGhee White explained, Cheney challenger Rep. Elise Stefanik has no credibility to lead her colleagues on key issues dividing most Republicans from President Joe Biden because she has been on Biden’s side of those issues. The worst was her vote for the Equality Act, among whose many bad provisions is one likely to force girls’ sports to disappear in favor of competition against biological males.
Stefanik also supports the job-killing Paris Agreement. She even opposed the 2017 tax cut that helped spur the strongest economic boom in more than half a century. How can she lead Republicans in blocking Biden from reversing the very tax cut she opposed?
Meanwhile, Cheney is not only a solid conservative on issues across the board, but she is also a skilled communicator and an ace at coordinating Republican “messaging” with Republican substantive initiatives. As that is exactly what the job of Conference chairwoman entails, it is foolish to replace her with the relatively liberal Stefanik, still green at just 36 years old, who has not demonstrated abilities at those tasks.
Cheney was great at the job. Even Trump himself praised her repeatedly, saying she has “a pretty unlimited future.” Eleven-term Republican Rep. Greg Walden of Oregon, who successfully led the National Republican Congressional Committee for four years, said last fall that Cheney “kind of reminds you of [revered former British Prime Minister] Margaret Thatcher or somebody else like that in history: a strong person, in a big position, a woman who stands her ground in an otherwise male-dominated conference.”
The Conference job is important. When Rep. Dick Armey of Texas led the House GOP Conference in the early 1990s, he did yeoman’s work setting the stage for the first Republican takeover of the House in 40 years. Pence’s chairmanship of the Conference from 2009 through 2011 helped channel tea party energy into effective governance while again helping Republicans retake a House majority. Conversely, when less experienced people (no need to list them all) ran the Conference, Republican fortunes floundered.
If a Republican team full of Trump sycophants can’t make room for a single Trump skeptic at the leadership table, not even someone superb at every other aspect of her job, it sends a message to Trump-skeptic suburbia that those not enamored of Trump are unwelcome. It’s a recipe for electoral disaster — not to mention morally reprehensible.
Cheney may be ousted Wednesday from her leadership role. She will still personify “leadership” far better than the entire top tier of the Republican Conference put together. -
2021-05-12 at 7:33 PM UTC
Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ She's not speaking the truth, she's speaking her worthless opinion. Big difference.
Just from this page:
The LA Times
Op-Ed: Liz Cheney's ouster proves the GOP is now entirely built on lies
Kurt Bardella
Washington Examiner
Jeff Flake: 'There is no greater offense than honesty' in the GOP
Carly Roman
POLITICO
McCarthy after ousting Cheney: 'I don’t think anybody is questioning the legitimacy of the presidential election'
By Nick Niedzwiadek
Washington Examiner
In ousting Cheney, House Republicans prove to be weaklings
Quin Hillyer
Note that two of these articles are from the staunchly conservative Washington Examiner.
The Washington Examiner is an American conservative news website and weekly magazine based in Washington, D.C. It is owned by MediaDC, a subsidiary of Clarity Media Group, which is owned by Philip Anschutz.
From 2005 to mid-2013, the Examiner published a daily tabloid-sized newspaper, distributed throughout the Washington, D.C., metro area. The newspaper focused on local news and political commentary.
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2021-05-12 at 7:36 PM UTC
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2021-05-12 at 7:37 PM UTC
Originally posted by stl1 Just from this page:
The LA Times
Op-Ed: Liz Cheney's ouster proves the GOP is now entirely built on lies
Kurt Bardella
Washington Examiner
Jeff Flake: 'There is no greater offense than honesty' in the GOP
Carly Roman
POLITICO
McCarthy after ousting Cheney: 'I don’t think anybody is questioning the legitimacy of the presidential election'
By Nick Niedzwiadek
Washington Examiner
In ousting Cheney, House Republicans prove to be weaklings
Quin Hillyer
Note that two of these articles are from the staunchly conservative Washington Examiner.
The Washington Examiner is an American conservative news website and weekly magazine based in Washington, D.C. It is owned by MediaDC, a subsidiary of Clarity Media Group, which is owned by Philip Anschutz.
From 2005 to mid-2013, the Examiner published a daily tabloid-sized newspaper, distributed throughout the Washington, D.C., metro area. The newspaper focused on local news and political commentary.
Wikipedia · Text under CC-BY-SA license
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2021-05-12 at 7:59 PM UTCYou are one of those who can't handle the truth that Donald Trump is a L-O-S-E-R.
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