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Look, Up In The Sky...It's A bird...It's A Plane...No, It's A Falling Chinese Rocket!

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    stl1 Cum Lickin' Fagit
    Business Insider
    Somewhere on Earth, it could rain rocket parts this weekend as a runaway Chinese spacecraft breaks up in the atmosphere
    mmcfalljohnsen@insider.com (Morgan McFall-Johnsen)


    The core stage of a Chinese rocket is expected to plummet back to Earth this weekend uncontrolled.

    Experts expect about 5 to 9 metric tons of rocket parts to rain down somewhere on Earth.

    The rocket stage is circling much of the inhabited world, but it will most likely land in the ocean.

    Sometime this weekend, somewhere on Earth, it's probably going to rain rocket parts.

    That's because a 22.5-ton cylinder is hurtling around the planet uncontrolled, losing altitude with each lap. It's the body of China's Long March 5B rocket, which launched the first module of the country's new space station last week.

    The rocket body is expected to fall to Earth sometime this weekend, most likely on Saturday. That's according to projections from the US Space Force, Russia's space agency, and The Aerospace Corporation, a nonprofit research firm that receives US funding.

    At this point, it is impossible to accurately estimate where the rocket stage will fall. Current projections show it entering the atmosphere at some point in a roughly 20-hour window. During that period, the rocket stage will circle Earth several times.

    The spacecraft's orbit takes it over a vast swath of the planet - from Los Angeles to New York to southern Europe to Beijing, down through most of Australia, Africa, and South America. Mostly, though, it will fly over oceans and uninhabited land.

    "Its trajectory covers much of the populated world. So if you can't control where it reenters [the atmosphere], then there's a real danger it will reenter someplace with people underneath it," John Logsdon, founder of George Washington University's Space Policy Institute and a former member of the NASA Advisory Council, told Insider.

    As the rocket stage falls through Earth's atmosphere, friction will heat the surrounding air to roughly 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit. The rocket will likely fall apart in this heat, and parts of it may burn up, but other pieces may survive.

    Experts estimate that more than 5 metric tons - 11,000 pounds - of rocket parts will rain down somewhere on Earth. That might include fuel tanks, thrusters, large parts of the rocket's engines, and bits of metal and insulation.

    Most likely, all of that debris will land in the ocean.

    "The risk that there will be some damage or that it would hit someone is pretty small - not negligible, it could happen - but the risk that it will hit you is incredibly tiny. And so I would not lose one second of sleep over this on a personal threat basis," Jonathan McDowell, an astronomer who tracks objects orbiting Earth, told CNN.

    Still, this is an "unusual situation," Logsdon said, and China might have some explaining to do.

    'China owes the international community an explanation'

    Normally after a launch, rockets are programmed to immediately push themselves into the atmosphere and fall back to Earth over remote ocean areas like the South Pacific - a process called "controlled reentry."

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    China's older rockets follow this practice. But two days after the Long March 5B launched, observers on Earth realized that its upper stage was circling the planet and slowly losing altitude. Unlike most modern rocket stages, it had fallen into an unstable orbit. Experts aren't sure whether this was an accident or simply how the rocket was designed. Chinese authorities have not offered an explanation.

    "Rockets get launched all the time, and very seldom is there concern about reentry," Logsdon said. "So yeah, I'm a little confused as to why this is happening. Is it just willful disregard of the international guidelines? Or because it's a new vehicle, it wasn't properly designed so it could do a controlled reentry? Whatever. It's unfortunate that it puts a lot of people at risk."

    This particular rocket has launched once before, with the same outcome. China first launched the Long March 5B in May 2020, in a test that put a spaceship prototype into orbit. That rocket's core stage also fell to Earth uncontrolled, six days after launch. It reentered Earth's atmosphere over the Atlantic Ocean, according to the US Space Force's 18th Space Control Squadron. Some local reports indicated that bits of the rocket fell in Côte d'Ivoire.

    Experts can only estimate how much of the rocket body will slam into the Earth. A rule of thumb is that 20% to 40% of a large object's mass will survive its fall through the atmosphere. In this case, that means 5 to 9 metric tons would reach the ground.

    "This stage and its predecessor last May are the sixth- and seventh-largest objects to ever reenter," Ted Muelhaupt, who oversees The Aerospace Corporation's space-debris analysis, told Insider.

    "The probability that a piece of space debris will land on a city or a densely populated area is usually relatively small," he added. "But note that this reentry will occur between 41.5 degrees North and 41.5 degrees South latitudes, where the vast bulk of the world's population lives."

    If any rocket parts land on people or their property, China could be on the hook for the damage. Under the 1972 Space Liability Convention treaty, the launching nation is liable for its rockets and any damage they cause.

    "I hesitate to use the word irresponsible," Logsdon said. "I would like a clearer understanding from the Chinese side of why this is happening."

    But he added, "I think at a minimum, China owes the international community an explanation."

    China plans to launch 2 more of these rockets to build its space station

    China's plans to build its new space station involve 11 launches by the end of 2022, two of which will use Long March 5B rockets. The vehicle is specifically designed to put space-station modules into orbit, according to Andrew Jones, a journalist covering Chinese space programs.

    It's not yet clear how China's space agencies will dispose of the next two Long March 5B rocket bodies. Designing a rocket stage so that it makes a controlled reentry after launch can be more expensive, according to Muelhaupt - it may require significantly altering the design or even cutting how much cargo the rocket can carry.

    "Nevertheless, this is a best practice and is rapidly becoming a global norm," he said.

    Logsdon is hopeful that international pressure could influence China's future launch plans.

    "One would hope that if indeed there is, as predicted, pieces that survive reentry, that there would be changes made in the Long March 5B for the next two launches," he said. "We'll see."
  2. #2
    POLECAT POLECAT is a motherfucking ferret [my presentably immunised ammonification]
    its gonna crash into the audit in AZ
  3. #3
    stl1 Cum Lickin' Fagit
    With any luck it will land in Florida at a dump called Mar-A-Laga.
  4. #4
    Ghost Black Hole
    did it land yet
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    the chances of it hittimg someone is less than the chances of getting covid19.
  6. #6
    Quick Mix Ready Dark Matter [jealously defalcate my upanishad]
    This is how china will do launches.

    Trump set them off with Space Force.

    All other nations have planned reentry and China just lets the pieces fall where they may.

    There is a international law US and Russia signed into agreement if a piece of space debris falls on someone killing them or damaging property, the nation it fell onto, is that nations agreement to pay out a settlement with the goverment of that nation to collect from the nation it came from. But that was signed 1967 and we now have privatised companies. But China never signed shit
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    Originally posted by Quick Mix Ready All other nations have planned reentry an

    citations needed.
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    Cowboy2013 African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Quick Mix Ready This is how china will do launches.

    Trump set them off with Space Force.

    All other nations have planned reentry and China just lets the pieces fall where they may.

    Or maybe they’ve calculated it perfectly and it will land on the white house 🤞🏻 Or Elon Musk.
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    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Cowboy2013 Or maybe they’ve calculated it perfectly and it will land on the white house 🤞🏻 Or Elon Musk.

    it already landed a few weeks back lol
    The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
  10. #10
    Quick Mix Ready Dark Matter [jealously defalcate my upanishad]
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny citations needed.

    Their actions of not knowing last time speak truths in volumes
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    Originally posted by Cowboy2013 Or maybe they’ve calculated it perfectly and it will land on the white house 🤞🏻 Or Elon Musk.

    You don't like Ellen?
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    There's only a 29% chance an uncontrolled rocket would crash on land, and the chance of it hitting a populated area on land is less than 1%. And the chance of it hitting you personally are about 1 in 7 billion.
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    Quick Mix Ready Dark Matter [jealously defalcate my upanishad]
    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ There's only a 29% chance an uncontrolled rocket would crash on land, and the chance of it hitting a populated area on land is less than 1%. And the chance of it hitting you personally are about 1 in 7 billion.

    Fuck you and your False-Jedi Mockery statistics.

    Manifesto or DIAFF
  14. #14
    Originally posted by Quick Mix Ready Fuck you and your False-Jedi Mockery statistics.

    Manifesto or DIAFF

    That didn't frighten -SpectraL.
  15. #15
    Originally posted by Quick Mix Ready Their actions of not knowing last time speak truths in volumes

    no body knows where their booster rockets will land, not NASA, not ESA, not even haitian space agency.

    the onky difference is no one made their booster rocket as big as china do, so tjey always burn up upon reentry.
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