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2021-03-16 at 2:30 PM UTC§m£ÂgØL, you are the dumbest fucking fuck. I'd explain why, but there would be no point.
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2021-03-16 at 2:31 PM UTC
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2021-03-16 at 2:41 PM UTC
Italian isn't a race...it's a nationality.
An Italian could be white/black/yellow/red etc..just like an American could be any one of those colors too...
So dumb.
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2021-03-16 at 2:52 PM UTC
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2021-03-16 at 2:53 PM UTCThis guy looks a lot whiter to me
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2021-03-16 at 2:56 PM UTC
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2021-03-16 at 4:24 PM UTC
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2021-03-16 at 4:27 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Clearly not as I understand the dynamics at work in N.I. and your average yank doesn't…as demonstrated by this thread.
I definitely understand the dynamics of English suppression of the Irish over centuries.
The Cromwellian conquest of Ireland refers to the conquest of Ireland by the forces of the English Parliament, led by Oliver Cromwell, during the Wars of the Three Kingdoms. Cromwell invaded Ireland with his New Model Army to take on the Irish Catholic Confederation who controlled most of Ireland.
Cromwell is widely credited with the ruination of Anglo-Irish relations. From the moment he stepped foot on Irish soil until he left years later, Cromwell’s forces ruthlessly killed all that was in front of them. In Drogheda, the first town the New Model Army lay siege, he slaughtered almost every soldier and clergyman—nearly 3,000 men—for not surrendering soon enough. From there they moved on to Wexford, where his troops interrupted surrender negotiations to destroy the town so savagely that they couldn’t even use it for a supply port. At every turn, Cromwell handily defeated the Irish defenders. Even Ireland’s most formidable force, the Ulster Army, had a third of its men killed in one battle.
Without a comparable army, the Irish Catholic Confederation resorted to guerrilla tactics as early as 1650. In response, Cromwell enacted a policy of total war, burning food stocks in villages across the island and imprisoning suspected Tory sympathisers. What the ensuing famine failed to kill, the Black Plague preyed on. All told, roughly 40 percent of the island’s population was struck down by Cromwell’s actions, rivalled in Irish history only by the 19th Century Potato Blight.
In the 17th and 18th centuries, the majority of Irish people in Ireland were Catholics. Irish Catholics had been prohibited by the Penal Laws from purchasing or leasing land, from voting, from holding political office, from living in or within 5 miles (8 km) of a corporate town, from obtaining education, from entering a profession, and from doing many other things necessary for a person to succeed and prosper in society.
The laws had largely been reformed by 1793, and the Roman Catholic Relief Act 1829 allowed Irish Catholics to again sit in Parliament. The Penal Laws was a contributing factor in The Great Famine between 1845 and 1852. Religious discrimination continued in Ireland after this, especially in Northern Ireland, where it contributed to sectarian violence during the ‘The Troubles’. -
2021-03-16 at 5:16 PM UTCBernard O'Reilly, B.A. Heritage Studies & History, Galway Mayo Institute of Technology (2004)
Did the Irish not have access to other food during the Potato Famine?
No. All the other food was in the form of cash crops which were exported to England. The great scandal of the Famine was that Ireland was producing plenty of food but the people who needed it were not allowed to have access to. Ireland was under British rule and British government of the time under prime minister Lord John Russell refused to prohibit the export of grain to England. All the land in Ireland belonged to a few hundred families that mostly lived in England. Most Irish people lived by growing the food that was needed to feed them. To grow that food they had to have access to land. The only way in which they could gain that access was by renting land from the land owners. To raise money to pay the rent, they had to grow grain. The grain would be sold in the local market towns and the money made from the sale would then be paid in rent to the land owners. If the people ate the grain instead of selling it, the rent would not be paid and the people would be thrown off the land. In other words, sooner or later they would starve. The government insisted that it was not proper for it to interfere with private property by taking the grain and using it to feed the people. The government also insisted that was the responsibility of the landowners to pay for any assistance to the people who were going hungry. The landowners were the people who paid the local tax, the rates, which in normal times paid for assistance to people in need. The landowners did not want to pay the huge cost of feeding so many people. Their only interest in Ireland was rent which they normally received from their estates. They resented having to pay the rates. Their income came from the rents paid by the ordinary people. They paid the rates out of their income. Now the ordinary people were starving. The landowners still wanted the rents to be paid. The only way that the rent could be paid would be if the grain continued to be sold for export to England. The landowners were going to get the rents and they were not going to pay higher rates. Of course, the government could have taken the grain and used it to feed the people but it refused to do so. It decided that it would be unfair to the merchants who had bought the grain if the the grain were taken to feed the people.
Literally, the fucking British starved the Irish to death, ladies and gentleman. -
2021-03-16 at 5:36 PM UTC
Originally posted by stl1 I definitely understand the dynamics of English suppression of the Irish over centuries.
Not relevant to the current situation in Northern Ireland or the IRA era "troubles"...again the majority of the population in N.I. WANT to remain British.
...I know that might be hard for you to compute with your stupid little American brain but the IRA are not freedom fighters..they are terrorist...they don't even represent the MAJORITY of the Northern Irish.
Again it would be like a group of people getting together in the USA and deciding they want to be part of Canada and start bombing and killing civilians who want to remain Americans.
Retarded.
BTW...Most of the IRA were in it for the money and basically organized crime...not the political stance.
Stupid yanks who read a book and think they understand...lololol. -
2021-03-16 at 5:54 PM UTCTry to obfuscate much? I'm talking history and the shameless way the Irish were treated by the English for centuries. They were slaughtered and subjugated leaving them no way to better themselves and starved to death by the British.
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. I'll not forget. -
2021-03-16 at 5:57 PM UTC
Originally posted by stl1 Try to obfuscate much? I'm talking history and the shameless way the Irish were treated by the English for centuries. They were slaughtered and subjugated leaving them no way to better themselves and starved to death by the British.
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. I'll not forget.
I wasn't...I was talking about the modern troubles. You've referenced your support for the terrorist organization called the IRA before, an organization that targeted and killed civilians including children in the name of a cause that the VAST MAJORITY of Northern Irish DON'T WANT and contrary to what Ireland and England agreed to when Northern Ireland was "setup".
You're the quintessential stupid American who bought into the IRA propaganda, as dumb as those Americans who fell for ISIS's propaganda too.
You should be killed publicly along with the rest of your family.
Just the facts Ma'am. -
2021-03-16 at 6:04 PM UTCNo, the British royal family should have been closer to the many bombs sent their way.
Irish Lives Matter! -
2021-03-16 at 7:10 PM UTCGreen Lives Matter!
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2021-03-16 at 9:46 PM UTCIt would have been great if they had gotten the queen.
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2021-03-17 at 3:14 PM UTCHappy St. Paddy's Day to all!
Well...almost all.
