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Race is a social construct
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2021-03-14 at 2:26 PM UTCThe people at my local shop it is their career. So fucking what? I appreciate them and what they do. I heard one of the girls say this is her third store she's worked at.
They don't just work for one store and move on, they stay with the company and go to different stores. Say what you want about the job of serving coffee but I have never worked for a company where I could do that and still live in the same city.
Selling stimulants is a hell of a business. I am glad to support a company that allows people to keep their jobs even when a store shuts down. -
2021-03-14 at 2:33 PM UTC
Originally posted by Ghost The people at my local shop it is their career. So fucking what? I appreciate them and what they do. I heard one of the girls say this is her third store she's worked at.
They don't just work for one store and move on, they stay with the company and go to different stores. Say what you want about the job of serving coffee but I have never worked for a company where I could do that and still live in the same city.
Selling stimulants is a hell of a business. I am glad to support a company that allows people to keep their jobs even when a store shuts down.
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2021-03-14 at 4:04 PM UTC
Originally posted by Ghost The people at my local shop it is their career. So fucking what? I appreciate them and what they do. I heard one of the girls say this is her third store she's worked at.
They don't just work for one store and move on, they stay with the company and go to different stores. Say what you want about the job of serving coffee but I have never worked for a company where I could do that and still live in the same city.
Selling stimulants is a hell of a business. I am glad to support a company that allows people to keep their jobs even when a store shuts down.
Straight up proves my point:
You are serially unemployed so of course you in particular should respect anyone working any job stably, even if they are cleaning up pigshit for a living.
They are still on the lowest rung of the ladder and totally incapable of climbing any further though... And meanwhile you aren't even on it. -
2021-03-14 at 4:08 PM UTCI can't wait for automation and plague to annihilate the lives of unskilled workers.
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2021-03-14 at 11:20 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2021-03-15 at 12:24 AM UTC
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2021-03-15 at 8:59 AM UTC
Originally posted by Joseph R. Biden Jr, 46th President of the United States of America 1. You are looking at a case of literal outliers, I am talking like <0.0001% of the population, we are talking international pro track rumners.
2. Yeah you mean a specific Kenyan tribe, the Kalenjin, a specific group of genetic outliers and literally no other black people. Suddenly all blacks are speedy Gonzales. There are over 5 million Kalenjin but they are themselves a minority in their country let alone their continent.
They are just another cluster of Africa's extreme genetic diversity. Most other Africans share nothing if these genes.
never said all black people are the same.
you claim race is a social construct. you agree kalenjins consistently run faster than non-kalenjins. this is your contradiction.2. Imagine there are 2 groups of 10 year old children and we are comparing their heights. However group 2 happens to have a freak of nature over 7 feet tall. Now on average (mean) there are a lot of things on paper you can say about group 2. You'd expect them to on average be able to jump higher. But you know that's not true for any given individual in group 2 except one specific one.
giantism (or whatever its called) is a hormonal disorder, are you now saying biological differences between races make us all freaks? are the kalenjin freaks of nature? you seem to be implying i am cherry picking data. you can randomly separate groups and get variations in traits sure, but try separating native americans into groups, you wont get any variations in baldness, all their old men will still have a full head of hair.Are those Kenyan tribespeople a brand-new "race" of super Kenyans or will you just keep considering them… A tribe with a particular genetic feature?
semantics again. yes, there are species and subspecies, in humans we simply call it a race, we dont bother using "sub-race" but describing the reality a different way wont change it.So basically you just refuse to read or understand shit properly and instead just blatantly strawman with transparently retarded questions?
im trying to understand your nonsensical philosophy, thats why i ask questions.
you want to both acknowledge and disregard biological differences between races at the same time.
that is fucking retarded an you know it.Ok Kalenjin tribesmen are a superior race of super Kenyans with higher density of fast twitch muscle fibres. They are not black, they're a new race.
sounds like a subrace to me, yupThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-03-15 at 9:01 AM UTC
Originally posted by Joseph R. Biden Jr, 46th President of the United States of America I can't wait for automation and plague to annihilate the lives of unskilled workers.
is this the mark of a tolerant loving leftist?Nobody said race or family isn't real or that being a social construct makes either not real, you are just illiterate. Money is a social construct and its very real for example.
so you just wanna troll and play with words and had no real point from the start? figures -
2021-03-15 at 12:09 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kev never said all black people are the same.
I never said you did, I said you associated the properties of a specific subset of around 5 million people, to the superset of around 1.5 billion people who have literally no connection to that attribute, by appealing to some poorly defined third property that you're trying to validate in the first place by appealing to the property "average running speed". This is circular logic.you claim race is a social construct. you agree kalenjins consistently run faster than non-kalenjins. this is your contradiction.
Where is the contradiction? Race is a social construct and Kalenjins on average run faster than Non-Kalenjins. Non-Kalenjins can be any skin colour, including black. Kalenjin Kenyans run faster than non-Kalenjin Kenyans. Does that mean Kalenjin are a different race than other human? Answer the question.giantism (or whatever its called) is a hormonal disorder, are you now saying biological differences between races make us all freaks? are the kalenjin freaks of nature?
Yesyou seem to be implying i am cherry picking data. you can randomly separate groups and get variations in traits sure, but try separating native americans into groups, you wont get any variations in baldness, all their old men will still have a full head of hair.
I don't know if your brain broke and you just started rapid fire babbling retarded bullshit or what, I'm not going to explain how genes work again to you.semantics again.
This whole discussion is about semantics. Again, at least learn to google the words you plan to use.yes, there are species and subspecies, in humans we simply call it a race, we dont bother using "sub-race" but describing the reality a different way wont change it.
It has nothing to do with "sub races", I asked you that if the criteria that proves a racial differencs is average running speed or not. If so, would an Italian guy from New Jersey with a really fast foot speed be characterized as the same race or "sub race" as Kalenjin?
Would you just categorize different populations by footspeed, or for some weird reason appeal to a poorly defined third racial concept?im trying to understand your nonsensical philosophy, thats why i ask questions.
If you were trying to understand anything, you would just read what I already wrote all the way through without flying into an assburgers rage part of the way through, because I'm literally just having to repeat myself to you.you want to both acknowledge and disregard biological differences between races at the same time.
I said I acknowledge biological differences between genetic populations. These do not map onto the concept of "race" in any way that validates categorizations like "White", "jedi", "Asian" or "Black" as meaningful biological concepts. Those are socially constructed categories that don't map well to any biological concept.sounds like a subrace to me, yup
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2021-03-15 at 12:15 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kev is this the mark of a tolerant loving leftist?
Yeah that's totally what I am: tolerant and loving and... left. Sure.so you just wanna troll and play with words and had no real point from the start? figures
You saying supremely dumb shit doesn't mean anything except that you are dumb.
The point is very simple: money is both real and useful, and also a social construct. -
2021-03-15 at 4:56 PM UTCDid not read
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2021-03-15 at 5:49 PM UTC
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2021-03-15 at 6:23 PM UTCedited for privacy
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2021-03-15 at 6:28 PM UTC
Originally posted by Joseph R. Biden Jr, 46th President of the United States of America It is largely based on categorization by the basis of skin colour, which is a biological and hereditary factor, but is definitely not the determinative trait as solely by this measure, Jews are white.
They don't even look middle eastern despite being from the middle east. They don't look white. They are clearly shape shifting into what they think humans like and just said fuck it and say its a human race and we go along with it because nothing else makes sense.
Like at least if you are BLACK you look BLACK. Asians all look "Asian", white people are all white. Then you have the jedidi that doesn't look like any other humans but claim to have the oldest religion and also apparently built the pyramids
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2021-03-15 at 7:09 PM UTC
Originally posted by Joseph R. Biden Jr, 46th President of the United States of America Yeah if it is their career they are huge losers. Reminds me of how Nicole from 90 Day Fiance was a barista and also a stupid bitch.
Typical marxist reduction of the essential human.
If the barista gets off work and goes home to a husband whom she loves and who loves her and then spends the time necessary to raise her child to be a decent human being who thinks for himself, she is a winner. The losers are those "successful" career women you see in their business suits at 10pm in the deli grabbing something cold to eat alone in their penthouse while they get ready to entertain Jamal at $100 / inch / hour (but they impress with success the way they stride purposefully through airports). -
2021-03-15 at 7:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by Joseph R. Biden Jr, 46th President of the United States of America I said I acknowledge biological differences between genetic populations. These do not map onto the concept of "race" in any way that validates categorizations like "White", "jedi", "Asian" or "Black" as meaningful biological concepts. Those are socially constructed categories that don't map well to any biological concept.
The Chinese have no cultural proscription against "staring". So, when I lived there and taught in a university out in the sticks, I was routinely stared at as I was often the first white man they had seen in person (this was in the 90s). I had a black American friend who taught at the same university I did. When we walked down the street together, the Chinese didn't know which of us to stare at first and the effect was comical with all these heads snapping back and forth coming toward us on the sidewalk. We stopped and played a game of pool one time (they had all these pool tables on the sidewalk all over the city, for some reason) and we drew such a crowd the police had to come and direct traffic. But even little kids stared at us and no one "taught" them to do that. Society didn't socially construct our racial differences. Everybody's eyes told them immediately and from a distance that Darryl and I were of two distinct races from their own.
The big question I have for the race-is-just-a-social-construct crowd isn't whether what you say you believe is true--even a six-year-old Chinese can see race is absolutely real in a biological physical sense--my question is "why"? Human history is littered with whole civilizations believing the utmost absurdities even to the point of their own extinction, and I wonder where these beliefs come from. Cui bono?The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-03-15 at 7:49 PM UTCDid not read that either
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2021-03-15 at 8:05 PM UTC
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2021-03-15 at 8:26 PM UTC
Originally posted by FreeAssange Typical marxist reduction of the essential human.
If the barista gets off work and goes home to a husband whom she loves and who loves her and then spends the time necessary to raise her child to be a decent human being who thinks for himself, she is a winner. The losers are those "successful" career women you see in their business suits at 10pm in the deli grabbing something cold to eat alone in their penthouse while they get ready to entertain Jamal at $100 / inch / hour (but they impress with success the way they stride purposefully through airports).
Originally posted by FreeAssange The Chinese have no cultural proscription against "staring". So, when I lived there and taught in a university out in the sticks, I was routinely stared at as I was often the first white man they had seen in person (this was in the 90s). I had a black American friend who taught at the same university I did. When we walked down the street together, the Chinese didn't know which of us to stare at first and the effect was comical with all these heads snapping back and forth coming toward us on the sidewalk. We stopped and played a game of pool one time (they had all these pool tables on the sidewalk all over the city, for some reason) and we drew such a crowd the police had to come and direct traffic. But even little kids stared at us and no one "taught" them to do that. Society didn't socially construct our racial differences. Everybody's eyes told them immediately and from a distance that Darryl and I were of two distinct races from their own.
The big question I have for the race-is-just-a-social-construct crowd isn't whether what you say you believe is true–even a six-year-old Chinese can see race is absolutely real in a biological physical sense–my question is "why"? Human history is littered with whole civilizations believing the utmost absurdities even to the point of their own extinction, and I wonder where these beliefs come from. Cui bono?
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2021-03-15 at 8:30 PM UTC
Originally posted by netstat i did read, it's another pointless rehash of a solved issue which stems from the inability of some people to read and understand words
if you read OP's post with knowledge of what the terms he uses mean you'll understand that what he's saying is pretty uncontroversial
You're right, it was pointless, I straight up had to repeat what I already said because Kev suffers from illiteracy.
