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2021-02-15 at 5:33 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kuntzschutz yeah,growing is a felony in most places, unfortunately.
as for them rotting,it depends, ive collected dried specimens of p cubensis and g luteofolius(from logs, not manure) that were quite potent many times. it depends on the species, some rot faster, but generally , all wild ones are prone to being infested with gnat larva and such.
and wtf are you talkin about spores i mean really man, you can get usable spores from almost any wild specimen, granted nobody was talking about doing that, and a good chunk of them will be destroyed by bacteria….
shroom hunting btw is the only reason you're able to buy spores. hunters had to find them originally, and some vendors run out, and it's sometimes up to hunters to send them more spores prints, especially of the more exotic variety.
i hav4 a blast hunting, ive found so many exotic strains and species that are often out of stock or never sold online to begin with…
It's a felony but absolutely nobody is going to catch you with a tupperware box in your closet. The spores are legal as I'm sure you know. It's probably the stealthiest drug to 'manufacture' since you don't really need to re-up on a whole lot of supplies, and once you get started you're good. People only get caught when they open their mouth or sell to others.
I'm not talking about getting spores from the wild. I'm saying that when psilocybin mushrooms fruit up in the wild, they're only there for a few days. 99% of the time the spores lay dormant waiting for those perfect conditions. The mushroom literally only exists so that more spores can propagate. They're really pretty delicate. Maybe you get 2g hunting shrooms one night, but there was 8g available last week on Wednesday. It's such a crapshoot. You're basically going out hoping you get lucky, and in most places you can only do it at certain times of the year. Plus you're really prone to infection with storage if you try to dry wild shrooms.
IDK shroom hunting seemed cool when I was younger but it just seems dumb as fuck to do as an adult. It takes a lot less time/effort to just buy or grow them. I'm not really interested in different varieties. It's not like they have different effects. It's all psilocybin and related minor alkaloids that all metabolize into psilocin either way.
Plus like, unless you live by cows or an especially dank forest, shroom hunting isn't exactly viable. Most of the states in the US where you can do it are also the worst to live in. Like Alabama and Florida and GA. -
2021-02-15 at 6:36 PM UTC
Originally posted by Antifa Member It's a felony but absolutely nobody is going to catch you with a tupperware box in your closet. The spores are legal as I'm sure you know. It's probably the stealthiest drug to 'manufacture' since you don't really need to re-up on a whole lot of supplies, and once you get started you're good. People only get caught when they open their mouth or sell to others.
I'm not talking about getting spores from the wild. I'm saying that when psilocybin mushrooms fruit up in the wild, they're only there for a few days. 99% of the time the spores lay dormant waiting for those perfect conditions. The mushroom literally only exists so that more spores can propagate. They're really pretty delicate. Maybe you get 2g hunting shrooms one night, but there was 8g available last week on Wednesday. It's such a crapshoot. You're basically going out hoping you get lucky, and in most places you can only do it at certain times of the year. Plus you're really prone to infection with storage if you try to dry wild shrooms.
IDK shroom hunting seemed cool when I was younger but it just seems dumb as fuck to do as an adult. It takes a lot less time/effort to just buy or grow them. I'm not really interested in different varieties. It's not like they have different effects. It's all psilocybin and related minor alkaloids that all metabolize into psilocin either way.
Plus like, unless you live by cows or an especially dank forest, shroom hunting isn't exactly viable. Most of the states in the US where you can do it are also the worst to live in. Like Alabama and Florida and GA.
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2021-02-15 at 7 PM UTC
Originally posted by Antifa Member It's a felony but absolutely nobody is going to catch you with a tupperware box in your closet. The spores are legal as I'm sure you know. It's probably the stealthiest drug to 'manufacture' since you don't really need to re-up on a whole lot of supplies, and once you get started you're good. People only get caught when they open their mouth or sell to others.
I'm not talking about getting spores from the wild. I'm saying that when psilocybin mushrooms fruit up in the wild, they're only there for a few days. 99% of the time the spores lay dormant waiting for those perfect conditions. The mushroom literally only exists so that more spores can propagate. They're really pretty delicate. Maybe you get 2g hunting shrooms one night, but there was 8g available last week on Wednesday. It's such a crapshoot. You're basically going out hoping you get lucky, and in most places you can only do it at certain times of the year. Plus you're really prone to infection with storage if you try to dry wild shrooms.
IDK shroom hunting seemed cool when I was younger but it just seems dumb as fuck to do as an adult. It takes a lot less time/effort to just buy or grow them. I'm not really interested in different varieties. It's not like they have different effects. It's all psilocybin and related minor alkaloids that all metabolize into psilocin either way.
Plus like, unless you live by cows or an especially dank forest, shroom hunting isn't exactly viable. Most of the states in the US where you can do it are also the worst to live in. Like Alabama and Florida and GA.
gymnopilins, bis-noryangonin/kavalactones, and baeocystin? you think they metabolize into psilocin lol?
if you try a good dose of gyms, you'd probably love them and they can grow in almost any country or state. myself and a shit-ton of other people notice the difference between psilocybin and psilocin, even though psilocybin is metabolized to psilocin somehow the effects are noticeably different for a lot of us.
paneolus cyanescens compared to cubes, or the 'weed' panaeolus with more baecystin. then there's the weird sometimes paralytic effects of certain west coast woodlovers.
gyms are way more euphoric and sedated as an example, but also can be true 'hallucinogen' rather than just a psychedelic, pan cyans are more euphoric than cubes and smoother.
plus, hunting can be a form of wilderness therapyThe results show that forest environments promote lower concentrations of cortisol, lower pulse rate, lower blood pressure, greater parasympathetic nerve activity, and lower sympathetic nerve activity than do city environments. These results will contribute to the development of a research field dedicated to forest medicine, which may be used as a strategy for preventive medicine
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19568835/
to me there's also a certain spiritual connection with each species.
but yeah, growing is great and i'm all for it, and if you're not a dumbass as you said, it's very unlikely you'll get caught -
2021-02-15 at 7:15 PM UTCKavalactones always make me trip out that's why they're schedule 1
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2021-02-15 at 7:30 PM UTC
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2021-02-15 at 7:36 PM UTCi know this guy who nearly drank himself to death once and had severe kidney pain plus depression afterwards, so i brought him some especially potent gyms. i told him to only eat one and when i came back to check on him he said 'well my pain is gone and i feel a lot better, but my face is numb'
i said uh, you only ate one right? and he said 'hell no i ate all three' lmao
he was high for a whole month afterwards. years later he's got a better handle on his addiction. the pain killing and anti depressant effects of the kavalactone type compounds and such in gyms are great. they mess with my eyes real bad though and i'll be seeing inter-dimensional entities and such for weeks after a good dose sometimes, especially when mixed with alcohol.
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2021-02-15 at 7:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kuntzschutz nobody is claiming they make you trip, just saying there are very noticeable differences. i remember when you were a shr00m n00b. glad you're on board now
Yeah but not significant differences. The main difference is potency. If you want certain effects you're best off adding drugs than hoping some minute SUBALKALOID will change your trip. If they were any good people would isolate and sell them. Gymnopilins are toxic. No thanks.
I'm certain its all in your head. There's no difference. When it comes to psychedelics the trip is so subjective. Everyone says different bullshit about this strain vs that strain and this prodrug vs that prodrug.
Unless you have some solid studies showing strains to have an actually active amount of these alkaloids I'm not really interested. I see people say the same shit about terpenes too. They swear there's a difference but can't provide evidence. -
2021-02-15 at 7:46 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kuntzschutz i know this guy who nearly drank himself to death once and had severe kidney pain plus depression afterwards, so i brought him some especially potent gyms. i told him to only eat one and when i came back to check on him he said 'well my pain is gone and i feel a lot better, but my face is numb'
i said uh, you only ate one right? and he said 'hell no i ate all three' lmao
he was high for a whole month afterwards. years later he's got a better handle on his addiction. the pain killing and anti depressant effects of the kavalactone type compounds and such in gyms are great. they mess with my eyes real bad though and i'll be seeing inter-dimensional entities and such for weeks after a good dose sometimes, especially when mixed with alcohol.
kavalactones + alcohol = poison
That sounds awful lol.
I've been doing some 4acodmt and my favorite part about it is the short duration. I don't even want to do a full trip on LSD anymore because its just so exhausting. Have had some lengthy DOM trips that hit 36h and don't want anything like that again lol. I like sleep -
2021-02-15 at 7:51 PM UTC
Originally posted by Antifa Member Yeah but not significant differences. The main difference is potency. If you want certain effects you're best off adding drugs than hoping some minute SUBALKALOID will change your trip. If they were any good people would isolate and sell them. Gymnopilins are toxic. No thanks.
I'm certain its all in your head. There's no difference. When it comes to psychedelics the trip is so subjective. Everyone says different bullshit about this strain vs that strain and this prodrug vs that prodrug.
Unless you have some solid studies showing strains to have an actually active amount of these alkaloids I'm not really interested. I see people say the same shit about terpenes too. They swear there's a difference but can't provide evidence.
gymnopilins are thousands of times less toxic than alcohol, and subalkaloid? wtf are you talking about
lol isolate and sell them yeah, cause so many people have leet chemistry skills lol subakaloiz!11
i'd give you some gyms to try for yourself if you came to tx, they speak for themselves. they're WAY different than cubes, every single time, not just sometimes. i also know people who've had federal prescriptions for both actual cannabis and thc pills, and they can confirm there is a huge difference when it comes to terpenes vs thc by itself.
you do not need scientific studies to know the difference. but you're just trolling anyway -
2021-02-15 at 8:01 PM UTCmaybe he is a good person
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2021-02-15 at 8:18 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kuntzschutz gymnopilins are thousands of times less toxic than alcohol, and subalkaloid? wtf are you talking about
lol isolate and sell them yeah, cause so many people have leet chemistry skills lol subakaloiz!11
i'd give you some gyms to try for yourself if you came to tx, they speak for themselves. they're WAY different than cubes, every single time, not just sometimes. i also know people who've had federal prescriptions for both actual cannabis and thc pills, and they can confirm there is a huge difference when it comes to terpenes vs thc by itself.
you do not need scientific studies to know the difference. but you're just trolling anyway
Lol yeah because terpenes are the difference between thc and buds? Never heard of cannabinoids?
SUBALKALOID was a made up word. Minor alkaloid do it for you? You get the message either way. You're just retarded because you're taking toxic mushrooms instead of real ones -
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