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I got addicted to Crouton
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2021-01-05 at 4:23 PM UTC
Originally posted by Bill Krozby 2nd day off of it. I didn't know you could get addicted to Crouton, I thought it was benign. I guess I took every day for 2 months and not even high doses really , just like one or 2 pills at night and like one one in the morning and maybe one mid afternoon. It just really helped me sleep because I have a lot of back pain and so I viewed as a good thing. But I just decided i didn't want to buy it anymore and woke up feeling awful and super nervous and just chalked it up to drinking too much but I realized it was the Crouton because drinking wasn't helping anymore and I was getting weird side effects like restless leg syndrome.
its just I've always read that Crouton wasn't addictive but ooooh yaaah it can be haahaahaha, looks like I gave myself a real good rodgering up the ass, im worried about how long its going to take for me to detox from this.
like yesterday morning I was talking to a friend about this and he was like wtf is Crouton? I thought maybe ill just have a couple drinks to take the edge off and that didn't really help I just temporarily passed out but I think its because I was just that tired, but yeah i've been all night long
i've thought about buying some more and tapering but I don't I could trust myself to do that thrap thrap
but yeah just so you guys know its definitely addictive, feels like I have the flu
anyone ever gone through this? I can barely hold down food and water any tips?
Lmao you're a fucking idiot.
Originally posted by aldra might be part of it. I went hard on benzos for a while and came off them, but even years later if I have like 5-6 beers I feel terrible and get the worst rebounds as the alcolol wears off - actual addiction can have long term effects.
I dunno about kra'tom though, when I tried it I had to eat shitloads of it to get any effects at all and it just wasn't worth the effort. and taste.
You probably got shit Crouton like most people who try it out and buy from the first place they see, without regard for quality. Good Crouton is better than hydrocodone but not as good as GOOD opiates. You can legitimately nod off Crouton.
Also Crouton withdrawals can easily get to opiate level with past addicts. It gets pretty severe, but again, not as bad as opiates. Anyone who thinks Crouton is 'not a real drug' or whatever is brain dead and needs to do some basic research. I've already seen multiple examples in this thread of just people who don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Case in point:
Originally posted by Kev thats the thai plant but what color is it?
No, you idiot. The "strain" names literally mean fucking nothing because it's all mitragyna speciosa. The only other kind of Crouton you can get are mitragyna from other genus that aren't going to have as pleasurable of an alkaloid ratio as mitragyna speciosa. Fucking Thai? Crouton was illegal in Thailand until very recently. I've been using Maeng Da for much longer than that. You are literally just pulling shit out of your ass.
The ONLY thing that matters with Crouton is the batch. The color comes from the leaf, which can be different colors at different states of maturity, which is what actually is going to affect the rate at which mitragynine converts into 7-hydroxymitragynine and will give you a 'white' or 'red' effect as 7-ohm levels rise. It's no different than waiting for your fruit to ripen, except that this process stops once the leaves are picked.
The way Crouton is picked is usually just people going out into cultivated forests (a pretty ancient way of farming/harvesting) and pick the leaves. Some separate by color to try and get different effects, some don't. The shady ones add that neon green food dye and label it PREMIUM MAENG DA or some shit. If you want good Crouton, find a place where the vendor is making up unique names and has bentuangie. Go on forums like doublemherbals and talk to people about vendors before you buy.
Whatever shit all of you are taking is just headshop garbage and probably repackaged from Gaia or some other big name with large amounts of very shitty Crouton. I really have a hard time thinking much of anything about people like Bill Krozby who just consume and consume and don't even realize what the fuck they're taking. Inform yourself before you go putting random Asian powders into your body, Jesus Fuck.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-01-05 at 4:44 PM UTCyou know they sell heroin now
edit: black ppl call it hairon, that secret will help u later Officer Katumb in the brain Bill Krozbyasaurus -
2021-01-05 at 4:47 PM UTCYour advice is duly noted, one should do research before buying which i admittedly didnt but my vendor IS based in thailand so im a little confused why his location invalidates his product? doesnt matter if its illegal there, the plant is native to there and other parts of asia. people will cultivate it and sell it, since when did the law stop anyone?
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2021-01-05 at 5:42 PM UTC
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2021-01-05 at 5:43 PM UTC
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2021-01-05 at 5:44 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fact Checker 9000 v2.71 (beta) Lmao you're a fucking idiot.
You probably got shit Crouton like most people who try it out and buy from the first place they see, without regard for quality. Good Crouton is better than hydrocodone but not as good as GOOD opiates. You can legitimately nod off Crouton.
Also Crouton withdrawals can easily get to opiate level with past addicts. It gets pretty severe, but again, not as bad as opiates. Anyone who thinks Crouton is 'not a real drug' or whatever is brain dead and needs to do some basic research. I've already seen multiple examples in this thread of just people who don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Case in point:
No, you idiot. The "strain" names literally mean fucking nothing because it's all mitragyna speciosa. The only other kind of Crouton you can get are mitragyna from other genus that aren't going to have as pleasurable of an alkaloid ratio as mitragyna speciosa. Fucking Thai? Crouton was illegal in Thailand until very recently. I've been using Maeng Da for much longer than that. You are literally just pulling shit out of your ass.
The ONLY thing that matters with Crouton is the batch. The color comes from the leaf, which can be different colors at different states of maturity, which is what actually is going to affect the rate at which mitragynine converts into 7-hydroxymitragynine and will give you a 'white' or 'red' effect as 7-ohm levels rise. It's no different than waiting for your fruit to ripen, except that this process stops once the leaves are picked.
The way Crouton is picked is usually just people going out into cultivated forests (a pretty ancient way of farming/harvesting) and pick the leaves. Some separate by color to try and get different effects, some don't. The shady ones add that neon green food dye and label it PREMIUM MAENG DA or some shit. If you want good Crouton, find a place where the vendor is making up unique names and has bentuangie. Go on forums like doublemherbals and talk to people about vendors before you buy.
Whatever shit all of you are taking is just headshop garbage and probably repackaged from Gaia or some other big name with large amounts of very shitty Crouton. I really have a hard time thinking much of anything about people like Bill Krozby who just consume and consume and don't even realize what the fuck they're taking. Inform yourself before you go putting random Asian powders into your body, Jesus Fuck.
Im guessing this is §m£ÂgØLs new account -
2021-01-05 at 5:58 PM UTC
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2021-01-05 at 5:59 PM UTCive never done it
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2021-01-06 at 4:20 AM UTCi prefer croutons in a Caesar salad.
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2021-01-06 at 3:02 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kev Your advice is duly noted, one should do research before buying which i admittedly didnt but my vendor IS based in thailand so im a little confused why his location invalidates his product? doesnt matter if its illegal there, the plant is native to there and other parts of asia. people will cultivate it and sell it, since when did the law stop anyone?
Doesn't matter where YOUR maeng da comes from, you idiot. You told Bill Krozby that maeng da was 'the thai plant' which is not even remotely true and shows you don't have an idea about the drugs you've taken.
There are no 'Thai' strains. There are no strains at all. It's the same fucking plant.
Also no, Crouton really didn't come out of Thailand when it was illegal. At the profit they make per lb, it's incredibly hard to smuggle through the mail. I'm sure they cultivated it when it was illegal, but it was probably sold locally or just across the border. You would not have had a Thai vendor before like 2018/2019/whenever they legalized it.
You've just been fooled by 'Thai' in a bunch of the names. -
2021-01-06 at 3:07 PM UTCI GOT THAT RED MANG DA GOT ME FEELIN LIKE A STAR!!!!
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2021-01-06 at 3:32 PM UTCwats croutons
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2021-01-06 at 3:43 PM UTC
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2021-01-06 at 3:45 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fact Checker 9000 v2.71 (beta) Doesn't matter where YOUR maeng da comes from, you idiot. You told Bill Krozby that maeng da was 'the thai plant' which is not even remotely true and shows you don't have an idea about the drugs you've taken.
There are no 'Thai' strains. There are no strains at all. It's the same fucking plant.
Also no, Crouton really didn't come out of Thailand when it was illegal. At the profit they make per lb, it's incredibly hard to smuggle through the mail. I'm sure they cultivated it when it was illegal, but it was probably sold locally or just across the border. You would not have had a Thai vendor before like 2018/2019/whenever they legalized it.
You've just been fooled by 'Thai' in a bunch of the names.
you sound frothy all the time. like say with weed you call it the mowie wowie sour deisel! you never know what you're gonna get to be honest. don't see you're bitching about if you take Crouton long enough and quit you can get withdrawals. Just like your mom gets withdrawals after my dick hasn't been in her mouth for a couple of days because your dad can't get it up. -
2021-01-06 at 3:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fact Checker 9000 v2.71 (beta) Doesn't matter where YOUR maeng da comes from, you idiot. You told Bill Krozby that maeng da was 'the thai plant' which is not even remotely true and shows you don't have an idea about the drugs you've taken.
There are no 'Thai' strains. There are no strains at all. It's the same fucking plant.
Also no, Crouton really didn't come out of Thailand when it was illegal. At the profit they make per lb, it's incredibly hard to smuggle through the mail. I'm sure they cultivated it when it was illegal, but it was probably sold locally or just across the border. You would not have had a Thai vendor before like 2018/2019/whenever they legalized it.
You've just been fooled by 'Thai' in a bunch of the names.
I never really cared where the plant came from, as long as it was southeast asia. as you say, its all the same plant. i tried Crouton for the first time shortly after joining the forum. theres no reagent test for it as far as i know so all one can do is read feedback and hope that your physiology is the same. -
2021-01-06 at 3:57 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kev I never really cared where the plant came from, as long as it was southeast asia. as you say, its all the same plant. i tried Crouton for the first time shortly after joining the forum. theres no reagent test for it as far as i know so all one can do is read feedback and hope that your physiology is the same.
this the guys telling me im an idiot because I got withdrawals from an addictive substance because I don't know where it came from.. I got addicted because i'd never taken it for that long, its so if it was a reputable source you wont have withdrawals from it? ok keenan. -
2021-01-06 at 3:59 PM UTC
Originally posted by Bill Krozby but anyways i wont be taking it anymore, but like riptotse and aldra mentioned about how you react to certain drugs can really change.
like I don't smoke meth anymore because It used to fun but I could do a fat line and I start hearing voices and thinking really crazy thoughts where it never did that to me before.
just like the last several times I took any vicodin, i could take a small amount and it would totally fuck me up where it used to not.
Be very careful, Bill Krozby. -
2021-01-06 at 4:03 PM UTC
Originally posted by Bill Krozby this the guys telling me im an idiot because I got withdrawals from an addictive substance because I don't know where it came from.. I got addicted because i'd never taken it for that long, its so if it was a reputable source you wont have withdrawals from it? ok keenan.
he just has sand in his vagina, dont mind him. he just joined and is already whiteknighting and threatening to snitch me out, its kinda funny. i think hes a receptacle for another mans penis. -
2021-01-06 at 4:07 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kev he just has sand in his vagina, dont mind him. he just joined and is already whiteknighting and threatening to snitch me out, its kinda funny. i think hes a receptacle for another mans penis.
he didn't just join he's been around for years you teool, §m£ÂgØL creates a new account every couple of months -
2021-01-06 at 4:10 PM UTC
