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I got addicted to Crouton
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2021-01-05 at 11:35 AM UTC2nd day off of it. I didn't know you could get addicted to Crouton, I thought it was benign. I guess I took every day for 2 months and not even high doses really , just like one or 2 pills at night and like one one in the morning and maybe one mid afternoon. It just really helped me sleep because I have a lot of back pain and so I viewed as a good thing. But I just decided i didn't want to buy it anymore and woke up feeling awful and super nervous and just chalked it up to drinking too much but I realized it was the Crouton because drinking wasn't helping anymore and I was getting weird side effects like restless leg syndrome.
its just I've always read that Crouton wasn't addictive but ooooh yaaah it can be haahaahaha, looks like I gave myself a real good rodgering up the ass, im worried about how long its going to take for me to detox from this.
like yesterday morning I was talking to a friend about this and he was like wtf is Crouton? I thought maybe ill just have a couple drinks to take the edge off and that didn't really help I just temporarily passed out but I think its because I was just that tired, but yeah i've been all night long
i've thought about buying some more and tapering but I don't I could trust myself to do that thrap thrap
but yeah just so you guys know its definitely addictive, feels like I have the flu
anyone ever gone through this? I can barely hold down food and water any tips? -
2021-01-05 at 11:39 AM UTCdon't do h or fent..if krahhhhtom wds did this to u, a proper opiate wd would prolly kill u lol
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2021-01-05 at 12:11 PM UTCi used to be a real opiate addict. but yeah i havent been in years, thats why i was confused why i felt so bad the other morning i thought it was just a hangover from the alcohol but its not.
I never got very high from Crouton because I was taking low doses so I didn't feel like I was going overboard. -
2021-01-05 at 12:19 PM UTC
Originally posted by Bill Krozby i used to be a real opiate addict. but yeah i havent been in years, thats why i was confused why i felt so bad the other morning i thought it was just a hangover from the alcohol but its not
might be part of it. I went hard on benzos for a while and came off them, but even years later if I have like 5-6 beers I feel terrible and get the worst rebounds as the alcolol wears off - actual addiction can have long term effects.
I dunno about kra'tom though, when I tried it I had to eat shitloads of it to get any effects at all and it just wasn't worth the effort. and taste. -
2021-01-05 at 12:30 PM UTCi hate having to shower and brush my teeth.
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2021-01-05 at 12:39 PM UTCDouglas them dishes depend on you to wash them please.
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2021-01-05 at 12:39 PM UTCya man once u experience extreme wds they come very easily after that...i did a whole year in stl County then came out and fucked up and was full blown dopesick after using maybe 2 or 3 times. seems like my body and psychy are just used to it...
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2021-01-05 at 12:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra might be part of it. I went hard on benzos for a while and came off them, but even years later if I have like 5-6 beers I feel terrible and get the worst rebounds as the alcolol wears off - actual addiction can have long term effects.
I dunno about kra'tom though, when I tried it I had to eat shitloads of it to get any effects at all and it just wasn't worth the effort. and taste.
yeah i was strictly just taking it because im an insomniac and it helped with that, wasn't trying to get messed up off of it. I think its just the fact i did it for 2 months
but idk i looked up online and evidently a lot of people think its benign and get withdrawals. I actually just found a Crouton behind my bass amp and ate it but I'm definitely not going to buy anymore of it. It's easy to get and inexpensive but fuck that shit -
2021-01-05 at 12:44 PM UTC
Originally posted by Robert Mugabe Douglas them dishes depend on you to wash them please.
the only thing I wash at work is my hands and knives I use so the real dishwasher wont accidently cut herself. funny thing though one of the guys that does the dishes was complaining about his back and I told him to just eat Crouton, hope he just blue it off because he doesn't know what it is. -
2021-01-05 at 12:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by RIPtotse ya man once u experience extreme wds they come very easily after that…i did a whole year in stl County then came out and fucked up and was full blown dopesick after using maybe 2 or 3 times. seems like my body and psychy are just used to it…
thats fucked up.
i wish I had some weed right now but the normal guy i get it from is acting weird but that would help out so much. I hope the withdrawals last long because I've eaten very little the last couple of days and only slept a few hours yesterday because the restless leg bullshit. though what the few hours I did sleep were pretty intense -
2021-01-05 at 12:50 PM UTC
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2021-01-05 at 2:03 PM UTCI drank some Balkan 176 that had Crouton steeped in it once. In retrospect it was hard to know what effects were from the Crouton if any and what were coming from drinking nearly 150ml of 88% abv in about 10 minutes.
It's banned here now because of the War on Drugs Lite that happened after teenage girls started ODing on Spice. -
2021-01-05 at 2:16 PM UTCwhen I wear sweatpants (swearpants) my Bill Krozbydog pokes out
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2021-01-05 at 3:10 PM UTCI havent exaggerated enough with Crouton to deal with a full blown fallout so i didnt experience what you did. have you been doing anything else? i wonder if cross-tolerance had any factor in this but i have no idea if other opiates would effect tolerance/dependence to Crouton because it isnt an opiate but a partial agonist.
the dope sickness after doing 7 grams of Crouton reminded me of the classic symptoms of an opiate, albeit toned down. H had me puking violently for hours, a lot of Crouton basically felt nice if i did anything but move. as soon as i do, the nausea hit like a tank but i never barfed.
bottom line, Crouton isnt really a hard drug but its not harmless either if you dont respect it. -
2021-01-05 at 3:21 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kev I havent exaggerated enough with Crouton to deal with a full blown fallout so i didnt experience what you did. have you been doing anything else? i wonder if cross-tolerance had any factor in this but i have no idea if other opiates would effect tolerance/dependence to Crouton because it isnt an opiate but a partial agonist.
the dope sickness after doing 7 grams of Crouton reminded me of the classic symptoms of an opiate, albeit toned down. H had me puking violently for hours, a lot of Crouton basically felt nice if i did anything but move. as soon as i do, the nausea hit like a tank but i never barfed.
bottom line, Crouton isnt really a hard drug but its not harmless either if you dont respect it.
I know its not a hard drug and i've taken it many times in the past and no problem, but like I said if you read my opie i wasn't taking nod off doses but the fact I did it basically everday for a lil over 2 months it caught up with me, i thought I was using it responsibly, I only bought 2 bags of capsules during these two months so I wasn't taking too much, but... like i've also mentioned, I do drink a lot and thats why when I woke up the other morning feeling like a junky I was confused by how I felt at first I felt like I was just hungover but it felt like being hungover and opiate withdrawal, and the wd's didn't come right away it took like over 2 days after I ran out and then realized that I was having withdrawals from the crouton ontop of my alcohol use.
right after I made this thread i found one crouton behind my bass amp and took it because I felt so bad and I feel more normal now as in not feeling sick but I actually do feel kinda high from this one pill, so yeah its kinda strange
also the stuff i have claims its "extra strength" not sure if thats just marketing or if it really is because it has no extract / mg's listed on the package.
but yeah i don't do anything else except smoke weed and drink -
2021-01-05 at 3:24 PM UTCit's very good to consume
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2021-01-05 at 3:26 PM UTCbut anyways i wont be taking it anymore, but like riptotse and aldra mentioned about how you react to certain drugs can really change.
like I don't smoke meth anymore because It used to fun but I could do a fat line and I start hearing voices and thinking really crazy thoughts where it never did that to me before.
just like the last several times I took any vicodin, i could take a small amount and it would totally fuck me up where it used to not. -
2021-01-05 at 3:30 PM UTC
Originally posted by Bill Krozby I know its not a hard drug and i've taken it many times in the past and no problem, but like I said if you read my opie i wasn't taking nod off doses but the fact I did it basically everday for a lil over 2 months it caught up with me, i thought I was using it responsibly, I only bought 2 bags of capsules during these two months so I wasn't taking too much, but… like i've also mentioned, I do drink a lot and thats why when I woke up the other morning feeling like a junky I was confused by how I felt at first I felt like I was just hungover but it felt like being hungover and opiate withdrawal, and the wd's didn't come right away it took like over 2 days after I ran out and then realized that I was having withdrawals from the crouton ontop of my alcohol use.
right after I made this thread i found one crouton behind my bass amp and took it because I felt so bad and I feel more normal now as in not feeling sick but I actually do feel kinda high from this one pill, so yeah its kinda strange
also the stuff i have claims its "extra strength" not sure if thats just marketing or if it really is because it has no extract / mg's listed on the package.
but yeah i don't do anything else except smoke weed and drink
doing it every day is not respecting it, even if its small amounts you arent supposed to do it more than 3-4 times a week.
hell doing anything every day and then going cold turkey will fuck you up.
i didnt even know they were sold in caps so i cant say if they are extra strength, if anything that would probably make it take longer to kick in and flatten the curve. you are supposed to eat the powder raw or brew into a tea but i commend you if you can, it tastes disgusting.
what kind of Crouton do you have? green? red? white? -
2021-01-05 at 3:35 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kev doing it every day is not respecting it, even if its small amounts you arent supposed to do it more than 3-4 times a week.
hell doing anything every day and then going cold turkey will fuck you up.
i didnt even know they were sold in caps so i cant say if they are extra strength, if anything that would probably make it take longer to kick in and flatten the curve. you are supposed to eat the powder raw or brew into a tea but i commend you if you can, it tastes disgusting.
what kind of Crouton do you have? green? red? white?
yeah ive always made a tea before but the head shop next to me and the duval store sell caps. sometimes making a tea isn't always convienent.
i dont know what kind of crouton, it came in an orange package it says on the back its maeng da mitragyna speciosa leaf -
2021-01-05 at 4:02 PM UTC
Originally posted by Bill Krozby yeah ive always made a tea before but the head shop next to me and the duval store sell caps. sometimes making a tea isn't always convienent.
i dont know what kind of crouton, it came in an orange package it says on the back its maeng da mitragyna speciosa leaf
thats the thai plant but what color is it?