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Making sarin

  1. #1
    Merzcat Houston
    Have any of you tried this?
  2. #2
    Ghost Black Hole
    The Sarin solution used in Tokyo subway gas attack was synthesised by the following procedure. Isopropyl alcohol was added to 1.4 kg of methylphosphonyl difluoride, using n-hexane as a solvent, and DEA as an acid neutraliser. The resulting solution, about 7 litres, was divided into 11 bags. Our analytical result, of about a 30% Sarin oncentration, supports the testimony of the suspects who were arrested.

    Originally posted by The Self Taught Man I always thought they made the sarin in large quantities and used a random amount for the Subway attack and destroyed the rest but these guys weren't very good at making sarin or unwilling to make it pure.

    THe sarin used in the attack was made in the most crude manner possible.



    In investigating the suspicions as to how the Sarin was manufactured, our laboratory at the NRIPS and the FSL of the Tokyo MPD performed forensic investigations on hundreds of evidence samples taken from the crime scene of the suspected Sarin manufacturing location. When the police investigated the documents seized in the cult office, they discovered the synthetic route to the mass manufacture of Sarin. The process involved 5 steps. In the first step, phosphorus trichloride was reacted with methanol to produce trimethylphosphite. In the second step, trimethylphosphite was converted to imethylmethylphosphonate (DMMP) through a rearrangement caused by the application of heat. In the third step, DMMP was reacted with phosphorus pentachloride by applying heat, to produce methylphosphonyl dichloride. In the fourth step, methylphosphonyl dichloride was reacted with sodium fluoride to produce methylphosphonyl difluoride. In the final step, methylphosphonyl difluoride and methylphosphonyl dichloride were mixed with isopropyl alcohol to produce Sarin. Under the restricted conditions used by the cult members, a forensic investigation was carried out. From the wiped samples taken from the first-step equipment, trimethylphosphate, n-hexane and DEA were detected. From the second-step equipment, trimethylphosphate,DMMP, iodine and DEA were detected. From the third-step equipment, MPA, DEA, phosphorus oxychloride and sodium chloride were detected. From the fourth-step equipment, MPA, DEA, sodium chloride and sodium fluoride were detected. From the final-step equipment, IMPA, MPA, DEA, DMMP and sodium chloride were detected. From the chemical analysis of evidence samples taken from the manufacturing plant, only stable substances corresponding to the synthetic routes have been identified, but these serve to verify the synthesis of Sarin in the Aum plant facility.
  3. #3
    Ghost Black Hole
    you can't purchase phosphorus compounds by the way so have fun figuring out how to make those ya big idiot. I already looked into them many years ago for the production of clandestine benzos and they are basically impossible to make without industrial equipment and a dedicated lab.

    also fluorine compounds require specialized equipment or they will just destroy everything, including you.

    https://books.google.com/books?id=MrPyPP7gkHYC&lpg=PA215&ots=4-00G4NbkF&dq=aum%20shinrikyo%20teflon%20pipes&pg=PA215#v=onepage&q=aum%20shinrikyo%20teflon%20pipes&f=false

  4. #4
    For what?
  5. #5
    WellHung Black Hole
    nefarious things
  6. #6
    Psshhh we know these clowns don't have the bollocks to do anything nefarious
  7. #7
    Ghost Black Hole
    wwe are just interested in the science and amateur chemistry, all illegal compounds are neutralized and destroyed after they are created
  8. #8
    Originally posted by Ghost wwe are just interested in the science and amateur chemistry, all illegal compounds are neutralized and destroyed after they are created

    I'll tell the FBI to back down then.
  9. #9
    Ghost Black Hole
    I would be more concerned about the fire department if were working with phosphorus compounds

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