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  1. #1
    Trump has long time connection to russian mob money.

    ► Trump's early connections to the Russian Mafia:
    Trump was first compromised by the Russians in the 80s. In 1984, the Russian Mafia began to use Trump real estate to launder money. In 1987, the Soviet ambassador to the United Nations, Yuri Dubinin, arranged for Trump and his then-wife, Ivana, to enjoy an all-expense-paid trip to Moscow to consider possible business prospects. Only seven weeks after his trip, Trump ran full-page ads in the Boston Globe, the NYT and WaPO calling for, in effect, the dismantling of the postwar Western foreign policy alliance. The whole Trump/Russian connection started out as laundering money for the Russian mob through Trump's real estate, but evolved into something far bigger.
    https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate

    ► Trump launders money for Russian mobsters:
    In 1984, David Bogatin — a convicted Russian mobster and close ally of Semion Mogilevich, a major Russian mob boss — met with Trump in Trump Tower right after it opened. Bogatin bought five condos from Trump at that meeting. Those condos were later seized by the government, which claimed they were used to launder money for the Russian mob. (NY Times, Apr 30, 1992)
    https://www.mhpbooks.com/books/the-making-of-donald-trump/

    ► Trump's attorney's connection to the Russian Mafia:
    Felix Sater He grew up with Michael Cohen--Trump's former "fixer" attorney. Cohen's family owned El Caribe, which was a mob hangout for the Russian Mafia in Brooklyn. Cohen had ties to Ukrainian oligarchs through his in-laws and his brother's in-laws. Felix Sater's father had ties to the Russian mob. This goes back more than 30 years.
    https://www.nytimes.com/1992/04/30/nyregion/entrepreneur-who-left-us-is-back-awaiting-sentence.html

    ► Trump secures loans through Bayrock, Sater, and Arif - the Russian Mob:
    Trump was $4 billion in debt after his Atlantic City casinos went bankrupt. No U.S. bank would touch him. Then foreign money began flowing in through Bayrock (mentioned above). Bayrock was run by two investors: Tevfik Arif, a Kazakhstan-born former Soviet official who drew on bottomless sources of money from the former Soviet republic; and Felix Sater, a Russian-born businessman who had pleaded guilty in the 1990s to a huge stock-fraud scheme involving the Russian mafia. Bayrock partnered with Trump in 2005 and poured money into the Trump organization under the legal guise of licensing his name and property management.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2017-06-21/trump-russia-and-those-shadowy-sater-deals-at-bayrock

    ► Putin rose to power through the Russian mafia and they are deeply interconnected:
    The Russia Mafia is part and parcel of Russian intelligence. Russia is a mafia state. That is not a metaphor. Putin is head of the Mafia. So the fact that they have been operating out of the home of the president of the United States is deeply disturbing.
    https://bpr.berkeley.edu/2019/12/16/gangs-and-gulags-how-vladimir-putin-utilizes-organized-crime-to-power-his-mafia-state/

    ► Giuliani's connections to the Russian Mafia:
    Rudy Giuliani famously prosecuted the Italian mob while he was a federal prosecutor, yet the Russian mob was allowed to thrive. Now he's deeply entwined in the business of Trump and Russian oligarchs. Giuliani appointed Semyon Kislin to the NYC Economic Development Council in 1990, and the FBI described Kislin as having ties to the Russian mob. Of course, it made good political sense for Giuliani to get headlines for smashing the Italian mob.
    https://publicintegrity.org/politics/elections/fbi-tracked-alleged-russian-mob-ties-of-giuliani-campaign-supporter/https://www.newsweek.com/giuliani-mysterious-ties-russia-former-soviet-union-decades-1215349

    ► The GOP and the NRA have been compromised by Russian money:
    A lot of Republicans in Washington are implicated. Boatloads of Russian money went to the GOP--often in legal ways. The NRA got as much as $70M from Russia, then funneled it to the GOP. The Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee lead by McConnell got millions from Leonard Blavatnik. In the 90s, the Russians began sending money to top GOP leaders, like Speaker of the House Tom Delay. Craig Unger's book alleges that most of the GOP leadership has been compromised by RU money.
    https://www.npr.org/2019/09/27/764879242/nra-was-foreign-asset-to-russia-ahead-of-2016-new-senate-report-revealshttps://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2017/08/03/gop-campaigns-took-7-35-million-from-oligarch-linked-to-russia/https://thehill.com/5335-following-the-delay-money-trail-to-his-russian-patronshttps://www.sltrib.com/opinion/commentary/2019/04/01/craig-unger-trump-rose/

    ► Trump's real estate assets are disproportionally backed by Russian investment:
    At the Cityscape USA’s Bridging US and the Emerging Real Estate Markets Conference held in Manhattan, on September 9, 10, and 11, 2008, Donald Trump Jr. was frank about the tide of Russian money supporting the family business, saying "...And in terms of high-end product influx into the US, Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets."
    https://www.eturbonews.com/9788/executive-talk-donald-trump-jr-bullish-russia-and-few-emerging-ma/

    ► The Trump organization relies on Russian funding instead of American investment:
    Eric Trump told golf reporter James Dodson in 2014 that the Trump Organization was able to expand during the financial crisis because “We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.”
    https://www.businessinsider.com/eric-trump-golf-courses-russia-funding-2017-5

    ► Russian oligarchs co-signed Trump’s Deutsche bank loans:
    When no banking nor investment firms would loan the Trump organization money due his record of multiple defaults and bankruptcies, Russian oligarchs co-signed Trump's loans.
    https://forensicnews.net/2020/01/03/trump-deutsche-bank-loans-underwritten-by-russian-state-owned-bank-whistleblower-told-fbi/

    ► Trump now gleefully takes cues from Putin:
    Trump went against American intelligence on North Korean missiles. He told the FBI he didn't believe their intelligence because Putin told him otherwise. “I don't care, I believe Putin"
    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/02/18/asia-pacific/politics-diplomacy-asia-pacific/believe-putin-trump-dismissed-u-s-intelligence-north-korean-missile-threat-ex-top-fbi-official-claims/

    ► Trump meets in secret with Putin without any aides nor intelligence agents:
    Trump met in secret with Putin at the G20 summit in November 2018, without note takers. 19 days later, he announced a withdrawal from Syria, abandoning our Kurdish allies and relinquishing US bases in the region to the Russian Military.
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-putin-secret-meeting-786384/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/world/middleeast/syria-turkey-invasion-isis.htmlhttps://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-russia/russia-lands-forces-at-former-u-s-air-base-in-northern-syria-idUSKBN1XP0XN

    ► Trump refuses to enforce sanctions against Russia - sanctions passed with a bi-partisan majority in congress:
    Trump refused to enforce sanctions legally codified into law - and in some cases reversed standing sanctions on Russian companies.
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/03/01/trumps-attitude-toward-russia-sanctions-makes-a-mockery-of-the-united-states/

    ► Trump denounces the American Intelligence Community:
    He has denounced his own intelligence agencies in a press conference with Putin on election meddling - and publicly endorsed Putin's version of events.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44852812

    ► Trump demanded Russia get invited back into G7:
    He attempted to do so against the wishes of all our allies in the G7.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/25/g7-trumps-demands-for-russias-readmission-causes-row-in-biarritz

    ► Pushed the CIA to give American intelligence to the Kremlin.
    He did this in light of evidence that Russia was re-arming the Taliban.
    https://www.justsecurity.org/71279/trump-pushed-cia-to-give-intelligence-to-kremlin-while-taking-no-action-against-russia-arming-taliban/

    ► Withdrew from the Open Skies treaty:
    A treaty first proposed by President Dwight Eisenhower in 1955 and negotiated under the George H.W. Bush administration that enables surveillance of Russian military movements and build-ups.
    https://www.armscontrol.org/arms-control-now-blog/2020-06/trump-withdrawal-open-skies-treaty-reckless-self-defeating

    ► Trump allowed Russia to place bounties on the heads of American soldiers with zero repercussions:
    Received intelligence in 2019 that Russia was paying bounties for dead American soldiers, and hasn't done anything about it
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/from-the-archives-when-trump-hoped-to-meet-gorbachev-in-manhattan/2017/07/10/3f570b42-658c-11e7-a1d7-9a32c91c6f40_story.htmlhttps://youtu.be/iuZUNjFsgS8https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/02/15/donald-trumps-ties-russia-go-back-30-years/97949746/https://themoscowproject.org/collusion-timeline/

    ► Ivana's connection to the KGB:
    Ivana's family was involved in setting up KGB affiliated spying & meetings with Trump
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/29/czechoslovakia-spied-on-trump-to-exploit-ties-to-highest-echelons-of-us-power
    https://www.businessinsider.com/kamala-harris-debate-debt-quote-trump-taxes-2020-10
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  2. #2
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Couple of things:

    1. Mafias essentially ran Russia from the early 90s up until part the way through Putin's first term, when he was able to take power from the western-backed oligarchs like Kolomoiski. They were used as a vehicle by a LOT of US companies to buy up and strip down formerly Soviet-state assets.

    2. Most of those oligarchs and their associated mafias have either been castrated or arrested. Even before Putin came to power Chechen mafias were assailing them on all fronts, and when Putin came in they were essentially given the option to either go to jail or work under the umbrella of the state. The 'mafia' now is very different to what existed in the 90s.

    3. Trump has withdrawn or broken a lot of treaties; the Open Skies one is not terribly important to either side. Not only are flight paths at the discretion of the host country, but both states have satellite capabilities that vastly decrease the value of aerial photography.

    4. Even the DoD has come out and said they were never able to substantiate the 'Russian Bounties' story.
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  3. #3
    Originally posted by aldra Couple of things:

    1. Mafias essentially ran Russia from the early 90s up until part the way through Putin's first term, when he was able to take power from the western-backed oligarchs like Kolomoiski. They were used as a vehicle by a LOT of US companies to buy up and strip down formerly Soviet-state assets.

    2. Most of those oligarchs and their associated mafias have either been castrated or arrested. Even before Putin came to power Chechen mafias were assailing them on all fronts, and when Putin came in they were essentially given the option to either go to jail or work under the umbrella of the state. The 'mafia' now is very different to what existed in the 90s.

    3. Trump has withdrawn or broken a lot of treaties; the Open Skies one is not terribly important to either side. Not only are flight paths at the discretion of the host country, but both states have satellite capabilities that vastly decrease the value of aerial photography.

    4. Even the DoD has come out and said they were never able to substantiate the 'Russian Bounties' story.

    Source?

    Oh you have none.
  4. #4
    Sudo Black Hole [my hereto riemannian peach]
    I just skimmed the OP but he also allowed the russians to move back into that fortified brick house that's literally just for spying and sending out massive amounts of radio waves. It's just a stupid little brick house, I think in Virgina somewhere but has radio frequency radius of like 60% of the US.

    Also, relax, Trump is going to lose.
  5. #5
    Originally posted by Sudo I just skimmed the OP but he also allowed the russians to move back into that fortified brick house that's literally just for spying and sending out massive amounts of radio waves. It's just a stupid little brick house, I think in Virgina somewhere but has radio frequency radius of like 60% of the US.

    Also, relax, Trump is going to lose.

    Yeah I know. I just find it absolutely amazing that there's anybody still willing to vote for him.

    Tho I'm the only American itt so far so my opinion is the only one that matters
  6. #6
    Sudo Black Hole [my hereto riemannian peach]
    Also, The Russian Mob becoming huge centralized conglomorates with the help of the US in the early-mid 90's and Putin dismantling them in the 2000's and installing his own St Petersburg homies is common knowledge
  7. #7
    Sudo Black Hole [my hereto riemannian peach]
    Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace Yeah I know. I just find it absolutely amazing that there's anybody still willing to vote for him.

    Tho I'm the only American itt so far so my opinion is the only one that matters

    You're in a pretty blue ass state aren't you? Pretty sure all the Ohioans here are voting for Trump and hate you. The Floridians here are kind of a toss up. Maybe try a gentler approach that appeals to their political sensibilities and the ends they are trying to achieve instead of just spouting off stuff about Trump. Literally everyone knows he's a piece of shit, even his family. Biden's also a piece of shit. It's just where you think they will lead the country, not whether or not they are decent people.
  8. #8
    Originally posted by Sudo You're in a pretty blue ass state aren't you? Pretty sure all the Ohioans here are voting for Trump and hate you. The Floridians here are kind of a toss up. Maybe try a gentler approach that appeals to their political sensibilities and the ends they are trying to achieve instead of just spouting off stuff about Trump. Literally everyone knows he's a piece of shit, even his family. Biden's also a piece of shit. It's just where you think they will lead the country, not whether or not they are decent people.

    Why bother I'm not gonna convince them

    I'm just saving ammo for my post election trolling because I'm going to toadyasso half the forum.
  9. #9
    kroz weak whyte, frothy cuck, and former twink
    Op takes it up his shit pussy
  10. #10
    Bugz Space Nigga
    Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace Trump has long time connection to russian mob money.

    ► Trump's early connections to the Russian Mafia:
    Trump was first compromised by the Russians in the 80s. In 1984, the Russian Mafia began to use Trump real estate to launder money. In 1987, the Soviet ambassador to the United Nations, Yuri Dubinin, arranged for Trump and his then-wife, Ivana, to enjoy an all-expense-paid trip to Moscow to consider possible business prospects. Only seven weeks after his trip, Trump ran full-page ads in the Boston Globe, the NYT and WaPO calling for, in effect, the dismantling of the postwar Western foreign policy alliance. The whole Trump/Russian connection started out as laundering money for the Russian mob through Trump's real estate, but evolved into something far bigger.
    https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate

    ► Trump launders money for Russian mobsters:
    In 1984, David Bogatin — a convicted Russian mobster and close ally of Semion Mogilevich, a major Russian mob boss — met with Trump in Trump Tower right after it opened. Bogatin bought five condos from Trump at that meeting. Those condos were later seized by the government, which claimed they were used to launder money for the Russian mob. (NY Times, Apr 30, 1992)
    https://www.mhpbooks.com/books/the-making-of-donald-trump/

    ► Trump's attorney's connection to the Russian Mafia:
    Felix Sater He grew up with Michael Cohen–Trump's former "fixer" attorney. Cohen's family owned El Caribe, which was a mob hangout for the Russian Mafia in Brooklyn. Cohen had ties to Ukrainian oligarchs through his in-laws and his brother's in-laws. Felix Sater's father had ties to the Russian mob. This goes back more than 30 years.
    https://www.nytimes.com/1992/04/30/nyregion/entrepreneur-who-left-us-is-back-awaiting-sentence.html

    ► Trump secures loans through Bayrock, Sater, and Arif - the Russian Mob:
    Trump was $4 billion in debt after his Atlantic City casinos went bankrupt. No U.S. bank would touch him. Then foreign money began flowing in through Bayrock (mentioned above). Bayrock was run by two investors: Tevfik Arif, a Kazakhstan-born former Soviet official who drew on bottomless sources of money from the former Soviet republic; and Felix Sater, a Russian-born businessman who had pleaded guilty in the 1990s to a huge stock-fraud scheme involving the Russian mafia. Bayrock partnered with Trump in 2005 and poured money into the Trump organization under the legal guise of licensing his name and property management.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2017-06-21/trump-russia-and-those-shadowy-sater-deals-at-bayrock

    ► Putin rose to power through the Russian mafia and they are deeply interconnected:
    The Russia Mafia is part and parcel of Russian intelligence. Russia is a mafia state. That is not a metaphor. Putin is head of the Mafia. So the fact that they have been operating out of the home of the president of the United States is deeply disturbing.
    https://bpr.berkeley.edu/2019/12/16/gangs-and-gulags-how-vladimir-putin-utilizes-organized-crime-to-power-his-mafia-state/

    ► Giuliani's connections to the Russian Mafia:
    Rudy Giuliani famously prosecuted the Italian mob while he was a federal prosecutor, yet the Russian mob was allowed to thrive. Now he's deeply entwined in the business of Trump and Russian oligarchs. Giuliani appointed Semyon Kislin to the NYC Economic Development Council in 1990, and the FBI described Kislin as having ties to the Russian mob. Of course, it made good political sense for Giuliani to get headlines for smashing the Italian mob.
    https://publicintegrity.org/politics/elections/fbi-tracked-alleged-russian-mob-ties-of-giuliani-campaign-supporter/https://www.newsweek.com/giuliani-mysterious-ties-russia-former-soviet-union-decades-1215349

    ► The GOP and the NRA have been compromised by Russian money:
    A lot of Republicans in Washington are implicated. Boatloads of Russian money went to the GOP–often in legal ways. The NRA got as much as $70M from Russia, then funneled it to the GOP. The Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee lead by McConnell got millions from Leonard Blavatnik. In the 90s, the Russians began sending money to top GOP leaders, like Speaker of the House Tom Delay. Craig Unger's book alleges that most of the GOP leadership has been compromised by RU money.
    https://www.npr.org/2019/09/27/764879242/nra-was-foreign-asset-to-russia-ahead-of-2016-new-senate-report-revealshttps://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2017/08/03/gop-campaigns-took-7-35-million-from-oligarch-linked-to-russia/https://thehill.com/5335-following-the-delay-money-trail-to-his-russian-patronshttps://www.sltrib.com/opinion/commentary/2019/04/01/craig-unger-trump-rose/

    ► Trump's real estate assets are disproportionally backed by Russian investment:
    At the Cityscape USA’s Bridging US and the Emerging Real Estate Markets Conference held in Manhattan, on September 9, 10, and 11, 2008, Donald Trump Jr. was frank about the tide of Russian money supporting the family business, saying "…And in terms of high-end product influx into the US, Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets."
    https://www.eturbonews.com/9788/executive-talk-donald-trump-jr-bullish-russia-and-few-emerging-ma/

    ► The Trump organization relies on Russian funding instead of American investment:
    Eric Trump told golf reporter James Dodson in 2014 that the Trump Organization was able to expand during the financial crisis because “We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.”
    https://www.businessinsider.com/eric-trump-golf-courses-russia-funding-2017-5

    ► Russian oligarchs co-signed Trump’s Deutsche bank loans:
    When no banking nor investment firms would loan the Trump organization money due his record of multiple defaults and bankruptcies, Russian oligarchs co-signed Trump's loans.
    https://forensicnews.net/2020/01/03/trump-deutsche-bank-loans-underwritten-by-russian-state-owned-bank-whistleblower-told-fbi/

    ► Trump now gleefully takes cues from Putin:
    Trump went against American intelligence on North Korean missiles. He told the FBI he didn't believe their intelligence because Putin told him otherwise. “I don't care, I believe Putin"
    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/02/18/asia-pacific/politics-diplomacy-asia-pacific/believe-putin-trump-dismissed-u-s-intelligence-north-korean-missile-threat-ex-top-fbi-official-claims/

    ► Trump meets in secret with Putin without any aides nor intelligence agents:
    Trump met in secret with Putin at the G20 summit in November 2018, without note takers. 19 days later, he announced a withdrawal from Syria, abandoning our Kurdish allies and relinquishing US bases in the region to the Russian Military.
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-putin-secret-meeting-786384/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/world/middleeast/syria-turkey-invasion-isis.htmlhttps://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-russia/russia-lands-forces-at-former-u-s-air-base-in-northern-syria-idUSKBN1XP0XN

    ► Trump refuses to enforce sanctions against Russia - sanctions passed with a bi-partisan majority in congress:
    Trump refused to enforce sanctions legally codified into law - and in some cases reversed standing sanctions on Russian companies.
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/03/01/trumps-attitude-toward-russia-sanctions-makes-a-mockery-of-the-united-states/

    ► Trump denounces the American Intelligence Community:
    He has denounced his own intelligence agencies in a press conference with Putin on election meddling - and publicly endorsed Putin's version of events.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44852812

    ► Trump demanded Russia get invited back into G7:
    He attempted to do so against the wishes of all our allies in the G7.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/25/g7-trumps-demands-for-russias-readmission-causes-row-in-biarritz

    ► Pushed the CIA to give American intelligence to the Kremlin.
    He did this in light of evidence that Russia was re-arming the Taliban.
    https://www.justsecurity.org/71279/trump-pushed-cia-to-give-intelligence-to-kremlin-while-taking-no-action-against-russia-arming-taliban/

    ► Withdrew from the Open Skies treaty:
    A treaty first proposed by President Dwight Eisenhower in 1955 and negotiated under the George H.W. Bush administration that enables surveillance of Russian military movements and build-ups.
    https://www.armscontrol.org/arms-control-now-blog/2020-06/trump-withdrawal-open-skies-treaty-reckless-self-defeating

    ► Trump allowed Russia to place bounties on the heads of American soldiers with zero repercussions:
    Received intelligence in 2019 that Russia was paying bounties for dead American soldiers, and hasn't done anything about it
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/from-the-archives-when-trump-hoped-to-meet-gorbachev-in-manhattan/2017/07/10/3f570b42-658c-11e7-a1d7-9a32c91c6f40_story.htmlhttps://youtu.be/iuZUNjFsgS8https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/02/15/donald-trumps-ties-russia-go-back-30-years/97949746/https://themoscowproject.org/collusion-timeline/

    ► Ivana's connection to the KGB:
    Ivana's family was involved in setting up KGB affiliated spying & meetings with Trump
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/29/czechoslovakia-spied-on-trump-to-exploit-ties-to-highest-echelons-of-us-power
    https://www.businessinsider.com/kamala-harris-debate-debt-quote-trump-taxes-2020-10

    good background linkage. thanks MMR
  11. #11
    Originally posted by Bugz good background linkage. thanks MMR

    Trump's criminality is very simple to prove.
  12. #12
    Erekshun Naturally Camouflaged
    I grew up in Vegas when the mafia ran things. It was much better then than now with the conglomerate mafia. I am voting Trump.
  13. #13
    Originally posted by Erekshun I grew up in Vegas when the mafia ran things. It was much better then than now with the conglomerate mafia. I am voting Trump.

    Vote trump for lower tax on Jeff Bezos.
  14. #14
    Erekshun Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace Vote trump for lower tax on Jeff Bezos.

    I got a tax cut! You would have too if you had a job.
  15. #15
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace Vote trump for lower tax on Jeff Bezos.

    they literally can't get any lower

    not only does amazog pay zero tax thanks to Trump's 'reforms' but they also take advantage of government programs so they're effectively paying negative tax
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  16. #16
    Kev Space Nigga
    Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace Trump has long time connection to russian mob money.

    ► Trump's early connections to the Russian Mafia:
    Trump was first compromised by the Russians in the 80s. In 1984, the Russian Mafia began to use Trump real estate to launder money. In 1987, the Soviet ambassador to the United Nations, Yuri Dubinin, arranged for Trump and his then-wife, Ivana, to enjoy an all-expense-paid trip to Moscow to consider possible business prospects. Only seven weeks after his trip, Trump ran full-page ads in the Boston Globe, the NYT and WaPO calling for, in effect, the dismantling of the postwar Western foreign policy alliance. The whole Trump/Russian connection started out as laundering money for the Russian mob through Trump's real estate, but evolved into something far bigger.
    https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate

    ► Trump launders money for Russian mobsters:
    In 1984, David Bogatin — a convicted Russian mobster and close ally of Semion Mogilevich, a major Russian mob boss — met with Trump in Trump Tower right after it opened. Bogatin bought five condos from Trump at that meeting. Those condos were later seized by the government, which claimed they were used to launder money for the Russian mob. (NY Times, Apr 30, 1992)
    https://www.mhpbooks.com/books/the-making-of-donald-trump/

    ► Trump's attorney's connection to the Russian Mafia:
    Felix Sater He grew up with Michael Cohen–Trump's former "fixer" attorney. Cohen's family owned El Caribe, which was a mob hangout for the Russian Mafia in Brooklyn. Cohen had ties to Ukrainian oligarchs through his in-laws and his brother's in-laws. Felix Sater's father had ties to the Russian mob. This goes back more than 30 years.
    https://www.nytimes.com/1992/04/30/nyregion/entrepreneur-who-left-us-is-back-awaiting-sentence.html

    ► Trump secures loans through Bayrock, Sater, and Arif - the Russian Mob:
    Trump was $4 billion in debt after his Atlantic City casinos went bankrupt. No U.S. bank would touch him. Then foreign money began flowing in through Bayrock (mentioned above). Bayrock was run by two investors: Tevfik Arif, a Kazakhstan-born former Soviet official who drew on bottomless sources of money from the former Soviet republic; and Felix Sater, a Russian-born businessman who had pleaded guilty in the 1990s to a huge stock-fraud scheme involving the Russian mafia. Bayrock partnered with Trump in 2005 and poured money into the Trump organization under the legal guise of licensing his name and property management.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2017-06-21/trump-russia-and-those-shadowy-sater-deals-at-bayrock

    ► Putin rose to power through the Russian mafia and they are deeply interconnected:
    The Russia Mafia is part and parcel of Russian intelligence. Russia is a mafia state. That is not a metaphor. Putin is head of the Mafia. So the fact that they have been operating out of the home of the president of the United States is deeply disturbing.
    https://bpr.berkeley.edu/2019/12/16/gangs-and-gulags-how-vladimir-putin-utilizes-organized-crime-to-power-his-mafia-state/

    ► Giuliani's connections to the Russian Mafia:
    Rudy Giuliani famously prosecuted the Italian mob while he was a federal prosecutor, yet the Russian mob was allowed to thrive. Now he's deeply entwined in the business of Trump and Russian oligarchs. Giuliani appointed Semyon Kislin to the NYC Economic Development Council in 1990, and the FBI described Kislin as having ties to the Russian mob. Of course, it made good political sense for Giuliani to get headlines for smashing the Italian mob.
    https://publicintegrity.org/politics/elections/fbi-tracked-alleged-russian-mob-ties-of-giuliani-campaign-supporter/https://www.newsweek.com/giuliani-mysterious-ties-russia-former-soviet-union-decades-1215349

    ► The GOP and the NRA have been compromised by Russian money:
    A lot of Republicans in Washington are implicated. Boatloads of Russian money went to the GOP–often in legal ways. The NRA got as much as $70M from Russia, then funneled it to the GOP. The Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee lead by McConnell got millions from Leonard Blavatnik. In the 90s, the Russians began sending money to top GOP leaders, like Speaker of the House Tom Delay. Craig Unger's book alleges that most of the GOP leadership has been compromised by RU money.
    https://www.npr.org/2019/09/27/764879242/nra-was-foreign-asset-to-russia-ahead-of-2016-new-senate-report-revealshttps://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2017/08/03/gop-campaigns-took-7-35-million-from-oligarch-linked-to-russia/https://thehill.com/5335-following-the-delay-money-trail-to-his-russian-patronshttps://www.sltrib.com/opinion/commentary/2019/04/01/craig-unger-trump-rose/

    ► Trump's real estate assets are disproportionally backed by Russian investment:
    At the Cityscape USA’s Bridging US and the Emerging Real Estate Markets Conference held in Manhattan, on September 9, 10, and 11, 2008, Donald Trump Jr. was frank about the tide of Russian money supporting the family business, saying "…And in terms of high-end product influx into the US, Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets."
    https://www.eturbonews.com/9788/executive-talk-donald-trump-jr-bullish-russia-and-few-emerging-ma/

    ► The Trump organization relies on Russian funding instead of American investment:
    Eric Trump told golf reporter James Dodson in 2014 that the Trump Organization was able to expand during the financial crisis because “We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.”
    https://www.businessinsider.com/eric-trump-golf-courses-russia-funding-2017-5

    ► Russian oligarchs co-signed Trump’s Deutsche bank loans:
    When no banking nor investment firms would loan the Trump organization money due his record of multiple defaults and bankruptcies, Russian oligarchs co-signed Trump's loans.
    https://forensicnews.net/2020/01/03/trump-deutsche-bank-loans-underwritten-by-russian-state-owned-bank-whistleblower-told-fbi/

    ► Trump now gleefully takes cues from Putin:
    Trump went against American intelligence on North Korean missiles. He told the FBI he didn't believe their intelligence because Putin told him otherwise. “I don't care, I believe Putin"
    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/02/18/asia-pacific/politics-diplomacy-asia-pacific/believe-putin-trump-dismissed-u-s-intelligence-north-korean-missile-threat-ex-top-fbi-official-claims/

    ► Trump meets in secret with Putin without any aides nor intelligence agents:
    Trump met in secret with Putin at the G20 summit in November 2018, without note takers. 19 days later, he announced a withdrawal from Syria, abandoning our Kurdish allies and relinquishing US bases in the region to the Russian Military.
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-putin-secret-meeting-786384/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/world/middleeast/syria-turkey-invasion-isis.htmlhttps://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-russia/russia-lands-forces-at-former-u-s-air-base-in-northern-syria-idUSKBN1XP0XN

    ► Trump refuses to enforce sanctions against Russia - sanctions passed with a bi-partisan majority in congress:
    Trump refused to enforce sanctions legally codified into law - and in some cases reversed standing sanctions on Russian companies.
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/03/01/trumps-attitude-toward-russia-sanctions-makes-a-mockery-of-the-united-states/

    ► Trump denounces the American Intelligence Community:
    He has denounced his own intelligence agencies in a press conference with Putin on election meddling - and publicly endorsed Putin's version of events.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44852812

    ► Trump demanded Russia get invited back into G7:
    He attempted to do so against the wishes of all our allies in the G7.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/25/g7-trumps-demands-for-russias-readmission-causes-row-in-biarritz

    ► Pushed the CIA to give American intelligence to the Kremlin.
    He did this in light of evidence that Russia was re-arming the Taliban.
    https://www.justsecurity.org/71279/trump-pushed-cia-to-give-intelligence-to-kremlin-while-taking-no-action-against-russia-arming-taliban/

    ► Withdrew from the Open Skies treaty:
    A treaty first proposed by President Dwight Eisenhower in 1955 and negotiated under the George H.W. Bush administration that enables surveillance of Russian military movements and build-ups.
    https://www.armscontrol.org/arms-control-now-blog/2020-06/trump-withdrawal-open-skies-treaty-reckless-self-defeating

    ► Trump allowed Russia to place bounties on the heads of American soldiers with zero repercussions:
    Received intelligence in 2019 that Russia was paying bounties for dead American soldiers, and hasn't done anything about it
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/from-the-archives-when-trump-hoped-to-meet-gorbachev-in-manhattan/2017/07/10/3f570b42-658c-11e7-a1d7-9a32c91c6f40_story.htmlhttps://youtu.be/iuZUNjFsgS8https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/02/15/donald-trumps-ties-russia-go-back-30-years/97949746/https://themoscowproject.org/collusion-timeline/

    ► Ivana's connection to the KGB:
    Ivana's family was involved in setting up KGB affiliated spying & meetings with Trump
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/29/czechoslovakia-spied-on-trump-to-exploit-ties-to-highest-echelons-of-us-power
    https://www.businessinsider.com/kamala-harris-debate-debt-quote-trump-taxes-2020-10

    retarded conspiracy theories, didnt read.
  17. #17
    Originally posted by Erekshun I got a tax cut! You would have too if you had a job.

    Fucking lol. Yeah, you got a tax cut you retard. Corporations have been pushing this 'lower taxes' thing for decades for their own benefit. They don't care about your taxes. Your income is insignificant compared to what they make


    Originally posted by aldra they literally can't get any lower

    not only does amazog pay zero tax thanks to Trump's 'reforms' but they also take advantage of government programs so they're effectively paying negative tax

    This is flagrantly untrue and it's clear you don't understand American taxes at all, Australian. Amazon didn't pay taxes because while Trump removed many deductions for average Americans, corporations got an increase on this. Amazon was able to take advantage by doing what they always did, and dumping everything into expansion so that they technically operate at a 'loss'. But most businesses cannot afford to expand like this, which is ironic because it means that they make less money and pay more in taxes despite being in the same tax bracket. Right now that tax is 21%. It was 35% for over 30 years before Trump and more like 40-50% when the economy was actually good in the 50's and 60's.

    It absolutely can get lower and more fucked up. Amazon got away with zero tax. We don't want other corporations to start doing the same.

    Absolutely baffling that any American can look at this shit and cheer it on. Trump paid no income tax for 11 of the last 18 years. He is settling with the IRS and has had to settle before to pay his taxes.

    It's like giving a kid a piece of candy and then knocking them down into the dirt and raping them. I guess Republicans really like being raped?
  18. #18
    Erekshun Naturally Camouflaged
    Corporations don't pay taxes. Sure, they send in a check but that money comes from their customers.
  19. #19
    Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace Fucking lol. Yeah, you got a tax cut you retard. Corporations have been pushing this 'lower taxes' thing for decades for their own benefit. They don't care about your taxes. Your income is insignificant compared to what they make




    This is flagrantly untrue and it's clear you don't understand American taxes at all, Australian. Amazon didn't pay taxes because while Trump removed many deductions for average Americans, corporations got an increase on this. Amazon was able to take advantage by doing what they always did, and dumping everything into expansion so that they technically operate at a 'loss'. But most businesses cannot afford to expand like this, which is ironic because it means that they make less money and pay more in taxes despite being in the same tax bracket. Right now that tax is 21%. It was 35% for over 30 years before Trump and more like 40-50% when the economy was actually good in the 50's and 60's.

    It absolutely can get lower and more fucked up. Amazon got away with zero tax. We don't want other corporations to start doing the same.

    Absolutely baffling that any American can look at this shit and cheer it on. Trump paid no income tax for 11 of the last 18 years. He is settling with the IRS and has had to settle before to pay his taxes.

    It's like giving a kid a piece of candy and then knocking them down into the dirt and raping them. I guess Republicans really like being raped?

    another rouge aztec monetary theorist.
  20. #20
    Originally posted by Erekshun Corporations don't pay taxes. Sure, they send in a check but that money comes from their customers.

    Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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