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2020-10-11 at 1:17 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist That is correct. But if these scum want to eradicate immigrants, they need to immigrate elsewhere
Well maybe if they try to do it for real but the first amendment grants the right to be a racist piece of shit and make holocaust jokes which I think is the most beautiful thing about America except for the part where they get all triggered when you "incite violence" -
2020-10-11 at 1:17 PM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood I will do that and show those women that you don't need to wear a burka to be a proud independent woman. Just like how the muslim women in my country turned their back on their faith to the disgust of their parents, family and friends and have been "corrupted" by western culture.. that is a racist old world way of thinking and it needs to be changed. I don't believe there is a superior culture. Global culture is whats most important, no nations, no borders.
There would be no immigrants if there were no borders
This is literally what the conservatives in their countries bitch about as well.
Conservatives everywhere cry about it.
You don't have a right to an ethnically homogenous society. People do have a right to freedom.
Kill yourself leather face. Idk how HTS puts up with that -
2020-10-11 at 1:18 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2020-10-11 at 1:19 PM UTCtech's a mentally unstable mudshark.
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2020-10-11 at 1:19 PM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood Well maybe if they try to do it for real but the first amendment grants the right to be a racist piece of shit and make holocaust jokes which I think is the most beautiful thing about America except for the part where they get all triggered when you "incite violence"
Freedom of speech is a right.
Forcing the ultimate conclusion of your speech onto others is not. -
2020-10-11 at 1:19 PM UTC
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2020-10-11 at 1:20 PM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood Well maybe if they try to do it for real but the first amendment grants the right to be a racist piece of shit and make holocaust jokes which I think is the most beautiful thing about America except for the part where they get all triggered when you "incite violence"
They can say anything they want, social media gives them that platform. Let them act violent, and they got to go👉 -
2020-10-11 at 1:21 PM UTC
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2020-10-11 at 1:24 PM UTCWell those conservatives are a bunch of racists and should open up their countries to homosexuals, blacks and jedi people. Places like Korea, China, Saudi Arabia and Zimbabwe are too ethnically homogeneous, it's honestly disgusting. They should be more like the rest of the civil globalized world.
I don't believe in national culture or identity, I believe in a global identity and global culture. Having 'pride' for your 'heritage' is stupid and racist old world way of thinking and thats the kind of shit that caused the Rwanda genocide -
2020-10-11 at 1:25 PM UTC
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2020-10-11 at 1:31 PM UTC
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2020-10-11 at 1:33 PM UTC
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2020-10-11 at 1:33 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist That’s a touchy one. You never know who will act out. But don’t be a troll and act like inciting violence is ok.
It's censorship. If someone was gonna do some violent shit or hurt people it's not because someone used strong words or "incited violence" clearly those people are criminals and could have been triggered by anything, like a breakup or having a bad day. Should we also make it illegal to cheat on your partner so the other person doesn't get upset and kill a bunch of people? Like you can't just make everything illegal because it has the potential to cause violence, because that potential was always there.
It's more of a bandaid solution and ignoring the root causes of the problem. It's already illegal and plenty of violent hate fueled things happen all the time so clearly it isn't doing much to stop anyone that wants to harm other people.
I think these issues could be solved more openly and quickly with less censorship but society censors itself so I am the minority in that belief which I accept will never be a popular one -
2020-10-11 at 1:52 PM UTCAll the concept of "inciting violence" does is:
1) Ensure that people only talk about the truly evil shit in the shadows. There are definitely people out there talking about killing jedis and burning synagogues and other heinous shit right now, but you don't know who they are because they can't be open about it.
2) Prop up the capitalist meat grinder. Laws about inciting violence just smack of corporate lobbying against downtrodden workers talking about *actually* fighting back against their corporate masters. Violence is also an effective force for political change (see: Minneapolis burning over George Floyd's death), so stigmatizing (or worse - criminalizing) incitement to it is effectively neutering the People. -
2020-10-11 at 1:58 PM UTC
Originally posted by Meikai All the concept of "inciting violence" does is:
1) Ensure that people only talk about the truly evil shit in the shadows. There are definitely people out there talking about killing jedis and burning synagogues and other heinous shit right now, but you don't know who they are because they can't be open about it.
Only? Really? C’mon.2) Prop up the capitalist meat grinder. Laws about inciting violence just smack of corporate lobbying against downtrodden workers talking about *actually* fighting back against their corporate masters. Violence is also an effective force for political change (see: Minneapolis burning over George Floyd's death), so stigmatizing (or worse - criminalizing) incitement to it is effectively neutering the People.
Too many times our country has witnessed mass shootings. Afterwards everyone says how can we prevent this? Then nothing is done to prevent it. There’s a fine line between prevention and reaction. -
2020-10-11 at 2:03 PM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood
It's censorship. If someone was gonna do some violent shit or hurt people it's not because someone used strong words or "incited violence" clearly those people are criminals and could have been triggered by anything, like a breakup or having a bad day. Should we also make it illegal to cheat on your partner so the other person doesn't get upset and kill a bunch of people? Like you can't just make everything illegal because it has the potential to cause violence, because that potential was always there.
It's more of a bandaid solution and ignoring the root causes of the problem. It's already illegal and plenty of violent hate fueled things happen all the time so clearly it isn't doing much to stop anyone that wants to harm other people.
I think these issues could be solved more openly and quickly with less censorship but society censors itself so I am the minority in that belief which I accept will never be a popular one
You should look at authoritarians through history who have incited mob violence, and look at the kind of language they used. Nobody says "Yes, go out and burn buildings. Go out and kill these people." Those kinds of leaders are seen of as ruthless and don't last long. Nobody wants a ruthless authoritarian leader, they want one who is on their side and will get shit done.
Ever hear of Mao's cultural revolution in China? He got young people out onto the streets. Religious people and intellectuals were murdered. Temples, universities, libraries were burnt down or smashed to bits with hammers.
There was 1,800 year old saying Mao used in his propaganda that is translated to, "Let a hundred flowers bloom, and let a hundred ideas contend." It's supposed to mean basically that everything should be good, and people should come together and discuss their ideas. Mao was implying that people would have freedom of speech. This was the first year of his rule. Then there were a ton of protests against him so he changed the law and had them arrested. What did his supporters start using the phrase for? Well they started going after the same people he was going after. They started killing journalists and burning down news stations that disagreed with the government party.
Then there's ç ´å››æ—§, which gets translated to 'destroy the four olds, which were the four things the country needed to overcome. Old habits, old ideas, old culture, old customs. Where it gets tricky is the translation, because it can just as easily be translated to 'win against the four olds' or 'beat the four olds' just as well as it can 'assault the four olds.' If you watch Mao's speeches it's clear that he was talking in terms of ideas and not actual violence. He never tells people to go out and do stuff.
Then there is another term which translates to 'Dare to think, dare to speak, dare to act.' But what kind of action was Mao talking about? Well, he wanted people to leave the cities and go work on communal farms for the good of society. Don't just think about it or talk about it, do it. Of course, this one got misconstrued by his supporters too, as he knew they would, as well as the other sayings here.
You're never going to hear a political leader tell people to commit violence. It just doesn't happen. Hitler didn't even do that. Kim Jong Un doesn't do that. They're much smarter than that, and much more discrete. They use words. Maybe someone like you or me won't commit an act of violence just because of what some dude says, but there are many people on the edge who very well might. PEople who are just looking for a reason to go out and hurt people and destroy things.
I mean, we didn't have right wing violence like this under Bush. And that was just after 9/11 when racial tensions were a lot crazier than they are now. What's happening now is honestly pussy shit. I haven't heard about a courthouse being burned in months. -
2020-10-11 at 2:08 PM UTCClearly the answer is making people into criminals because they spoke too much about something they care about
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