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Scientists Predict There's 90% Chance Civilization Will Collapse Within 'Decades'
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2020-08-16 at 6 PM UTC
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2020-08-16 at 6:54 PM UTCHollywood's Apocalypse NOW: Rich and famous are fleeing in droves as liberal politics and coronavirus turn City of Dreams into cesspit plagued by junkies and violent criminals
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8631063/Hollywood-Apocalypse-rich-famous-fleeing-droves.html -
2020-08-16 at 6:54 PM UTC"leaving in droves" = Joe Rogan is going to Texas
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2020-08-16 at 7 PM UTC
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2020-08-18 at 4:14 PM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE 1. Your anecdote enhancemented through your shitty lens doesn't equal data.
Your cherry picked data doesn't fit the real world. Try working in construction. Go get a few contracts and get back to me.
The simplest solution here is the one they taught you in fourth grade: supply and demand. You increase supply of labour, price goes down. Is that so fucking hard to get? You probably also believe evolution stops at the neck.2. Someone is willing to be more productive and efficient than you, you are a lazy nigger, stop crying. All you want is to be paid more for doing nothing more.
I work piece work. Some days, I can make 500$. Other days, I make 100$. This is still not enough to buy a house where I live. I want back breaking work to result in ownership. As of right now, you break your back working and all you get is enough to make rent.
Bringing in Mexicans like this up north, is akin to bringing in strike breakers on the rail road. The white folks aren't willing to work for too little. Our palaces will go over budget. Bring in the Mexicans! This is what makes the liberals the real racists. If Mexicans didn't work for cheap, they wouldn't be here.3. There is literally zero dispute that whatever you've been supposedly lost out on because of immigrants, you've gained many orders of magnitude more than that in purchasing power due to market growth.
In terms of buying housing, or cars, my purchasing power is close to that of a 1970's minimum wage.4. You can defeat this with a price control AKA a minimum wage raise, and make this whole point moot as they literally cannot go lower past a certain point. Which the Republicans have done more to suppress.
Are you retarded? That's the entire point of being ILLEGAL. The minimum wage doesn't apply to illegals.
If we didn't have people willing to work for peanuts, we wouldn't need to enforce a minimum wage.
Unfortunately, some people are stupid enough to work for a fraction of their worth. Minimum wage laws are put in place to protect others from those willing to work for less than their value.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2020-08-18 at 5:49 PM UTCTaken from Reddit
Comparison of job losses during this recession to others since WWII
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2020-08-18 at 6:20 PM UTC
Originally posted by Splam Your cherry picked data doesn't fit the real world. Try working in construction. Go get a few contracts and get back to me.
Your anecdote is the literal definition of cherry picked data.The simplest solution here is the one they taught you in fourth grade: supply and demand. You increase supply of labour, price goes down. Is that so fucking hard to get? You probably also believe evolution stops at the neck.
I've already addressed this. Real markets don't work like Econ 101 toymodels: they're used to introduce you to elemental concepts that are used later for actual market modeling. Spoiler alert, the labour market isn't that simple.I work piece work. Some days, I can make 500$. Other days, I make 100$. This is still not enough to buy a house where I live. I want back breaking work to result in ownership. As of right now, you break your back working and all you get is enough to make rent.
Sucks for you. Either be more valuable or get another career. Either way, why should two consenting parties be prevented from making a contract just because someone can undercut you? They are willing to be more valuable than you.Bringing in Mexicans like this up north, is akin to bringing in strike breakers on the rail road. The white folks aren't willing to work for too little. Our palaces will go over budget. Bring in the Mexicans! This is what makes the liberals the real racists. If Mexicans didn't work for cheap, they wouldn't be here.
That's the free market at play, pal. And I don't need big government telling me who I can hire, or that I need to play ball with, i.e. you people who want more money for doing something someone else would do for cheaper, for no damn reason.In terms of buying housing, or cars, my purchasing power is close to that of a 1970's minimum wage.
Sucks to be you. He more valuable.Are you retarded? That's the entire point of being ILLEGAL. The minimum wage doesn't apply to illegals.
We were never talking about illegal immigrants, just immigrants. And even if we were, all you're doing is either advocating for A) just ENFORCING THE LAW and prosecuting the ILLEGAL EMPLOYERS, or B) Giving them green cards and making sure they take the same employment protections.If we didn't have people willing to work for peanuts, we wouldn't need to enforce a minimum wage. Unfortunately, some people are stupid enough to work for a fraction of their worth. Minimum wage laws are put in place to protect others from those willing to work for less than their value.
Minimum wage laws are communist price controls that interfere with a smoothly functioning free market. The government has no business telling 2 free adults what agreement they can come to between themselves.
Be less of a lazy nigger and stop getting mad that you are a loser in the competitive market: you are getting out-competed. BOO HOO, faggot. -
2020-08-18 at 6:34 PM UTCOh yeah goy immigration will make you wealthy and benefit you .... oh now you're living in poverty? That's the free market, sucks to be you!
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2020-08-18 at 7:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by Splam The white folks aren't willing to work for too little. Our palaces will go over budget. Bring in the Mexicans! This is what makes the liberals the real racists. If Mexicans didn't work for cheap, they wouldn't be here.
thats the question of fair price of labor.
who is to say doing X job deserves Y amount of rewards. -
2020-08-18 at 7:38 PM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE That's the free market at play, pal. And I don't need big government telling me who I can hire, or that I need to play ball with, i.e. you people who want more money for doing something someone else would do for cheaper, for no damn reason.
that reason being because they live in real estates that are priced according to american standards while bangladeshis like you can pack dozens of yourselves and your uncles in a hut. -
2020-08-18 at 8:32 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny that reason being because they live in real estates that are priced according to american standards while bangladeshis like you can pack dozens of yourselves and your uncles in a hut.
That's just classic American greed, wanting a mansion and a limousine for doing low skill work that someone who is more disciplined and efficient can do better and for cheaper. -
2020-08-18 at 9:05 PM UTCYes we do see free market at work when Mexicans move up here to work. I've never been a believer in the free market. They can go fix their own market instead of screwing up ours.
We'll see real democracy at work when all the sitkskins are finally kicked out of western countries.
The only argument you have ORACLE is "that's not how economies work you wouldn't understand it".
It's the poor Mexicans coming over. Well doing Mexicans have no reason to emigrate if they can raise a family and feed them there. You can bet your ass off doctors would be pissed off at Mexicans if we accepted Mexican doctorates here for work. But is it worth it, when doctors start living out of their vans? That's just how the market works, should've chosen a different occupation. Is that your reply to a doctor who studied for a decade to make a wage? Do you not realize that carpenters practice for 10 - 15 - 20 years before becoming truly proficient? Will we say screw you and import cheap Mexican "strike breakers" when these carpenters demand a living wage during contract negotiation? IT IS NOT RIGHT! That's exactly how the current system is setup.
Originally posted by ORACLE That's just classic American greed, wanting a mansion and a limousine for doing low skill work that someone who is more disciplined and efficient can do better and for cheaper.
It astonishes me that people firmly believe we should open our borders and bring our own nations down to the same standards as third world countries.
Also trades are not low skilled work. Work a single day in it and you'll see. Mexicans can go fix labour standards in their own countries. There's plenty of mansions in Mexico. Instead of bringing our labour standards down to their level. -
2020-08-18 at 10:17 PM UTC
Originally posted by Splam It astonishes me that people firmly believe we should open our borders and bring our own nations down to the same standards as third world countries.
Keep in mind, when you say "we", CF is not someone who counts himself as being part of your group.
Identity matters when it comes to politics. -
2020-08-18 at 10:21 PM UTCThere is more slavery today than at any other point in human history:
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/feb/25/modern-slavery-trafficking-persons-one-in-200
It is also more lucrative than it ever had been:
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/jul/31/human-life-is-more-expendable-why-slavery-has-never-made-more-money
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2018/07/19/supply-chains-based-on-modern-slavery-may-reach-into-the-west
It's going to get worse. -
2020-08-18 at 10:29 PM UTCYes slavery in the west has been the result of decades of failed policy with immigration.
One of the most common examples of slavery in the west is people hiding their Mexican or Asian maids from the authorities. Not to mention companies hiding their illegal Mexican employees who are paid sub wages and have nowhere else to go (thus by definition trafficked/enslaved).
No Mexicans = no slavery and fair wages for the rest of us -
2020-08-18 at 10:35 PM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE If the Big Bang was warmer without burning fossil fuels, how can fossil fuels make it hotter
Doesn't understand trends ^
97% of scientists qualified to interpret the data agree on it. I'm not trying to change your mind because you don't know what you don't know.
We don't have direct climate data from millions of years ago at a resolution of 20 years.
Literally nobody ever disputed that the Earth's climate changes, only asserted that human activity is causing a more rapid change in climate than ever has naturally been the case.
That 97% BS was debunked years ago. -
2020-08-18 at 10:35 PM UTC
Originally posted by Splam Yes slavery in the west has been the result of decades of failed policy with immigration.
One of the most common examples of slavery in the US is people hiding their Mexican maids from the authorities. Not to mention companies hiding their illegal Mexican employees who are paid sub wages (thus by definition trafficked/enslaved).
No Mexicans = no slavery, fair wages
There's going to be a lot more Mexicans migrating to your town once Mexico becomes too hot to live in. -
2020-08-18 at 10:44 PM UTC
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2020-08-18 at 10:46 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2020-08-18 at 10:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe That BS was debunked thousands of years ago.
Fortunately, we don't have to debunk your statement that "Mexico will be to hot to live in".
Why? Because it hasn't happened yet and you've provided no proof it will. You hold the burden of proof.
Go watch a stranger eat your wife's ass somewhere else.
