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Scientists Predict There's 90% Chance Civilization Will Collapse Within 'Decades'
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2020-08-03 at 11:50 AM UTCAre four fathers will use cheap abundant fusion power to operate equipment that pulls co2 back out of the air.
Guess what it will be so cheap power that it aint even worth metering it. Hello refrigerated pool, hello heated roadways . Hello hydraulic dildo clubs -
2020-08-03 at 11:55 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra While I agree we should improve efficiency and reduce waste as much as possible, the reason I'm not totally sold on global warming or any other man-made climate change is that the oldest climate records we have are from ice cores roughly 200,000 years old.
Assuming we had 100% accurate and complete climate records from 200,000 years ago to now (we don't), how can we possibly model the baseline temperature levels for a planet that's 60 billion years old? That's literally trying to draw a statistical conclusion with 2 out of 60,000 datapoints. In no other field would that be taken seriously.
there is no baseline temperature, probably because variations of the radiation of the sun controls the temperature here. imagine how insane i must be to believe the sun has anything to do with the temperature!
Nonetheless, all that matters is that we know definitively that the planet has endured far worse climatic shifts in the past way before we burned fossil fuels. that alone refutes the global warming gibberish. -
2020-08-03 at 11:58 AM UTC
Originally posted by Kev Nonetheless, all that matters is that we know definitively that the planet has endured far worse climatic shifts in the past way before we burned fossil fuels. that alone refutes the global warming gibberish.
What's the logic here? A volcano or an asteroid impact can change the climate, therefore fossil fuels can't? -
2020-08-03 at 11:58 AM UTC
Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING 2020 IV: Intravenous Soyposting Climate science is a joke, but it doesn't matter. We do know that CO2 levels in the general atmosphere are rising, and will soon be at dangerous levels.
try looking at a graph that goes further than a puny 50 years. also funny how temperatures are not rising as of 15 years ago despite all that co2. -
2020-08-03 at 11:59 AM UTC
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2020-08-03 at 12:02 PM UTC
Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING 2020 IV: Intravenous Soyposting What's the logic here? A volcano or an asteroid impact can change the climate, therefore fossil fuels can't?
The sun has a far greater effect than one volcano or asteroid. a volcano can change next year's summer into winter and then normalcy returns but fluctuations in solar radiation can create a mini ice age that lasted a century 500 years ago or the middle-age warming period that was hotter than this one.
any amount of co2 being released by humans is so puny that the effect is almost non existent. co2 levels rise and fall all the time, this centurys period is no different. -
2020-08-03 at 12:03 PM UTC
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2020-08-03 at 12:07 PM UTCWhy does everyone talk about humans impact on the environment as being small? Everywhere I go I see humans have turned forests into fields, have irrigated arid areas, built artificial lakes, blocked rivers, built roads across whole continents, dug up whole mountains, and sucked geological quantities of oil and gas from the planet and burned them in the atmosphere.
Humans certainly don't seem puny. -
2020-08-03 at 12:09 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kev That is false, the record high global average temperature was observed in 2005, it has been falling since.
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=hottest+year+on+record -
2020-08-03 at 12:10 PM UTC
Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING 2020 IV: Intravenous Soyposting Why does everyone talk about humans impact on the environment as being small? Everywhere I go I see humans have turned forests into fields, have irrigated arid areas, built artificial lakes, blocked rivers, built roads across whole continents, dug up whole mountains, and sucked geological quantities of oil and gas from the planet and burned them in the atmosphere.
Humans certainly don't seem puny.
Deforesting (now being done by proponents of "green energy"), erosion of the soil, plastic pollution of the ocean are legitimate topics that desperately need to be discussed. co2 levels and global warming arent one of them.
its a psyop campaign literally funded by those same rich polluters you hate to distract from the conversation we should be having, but instead the media wants you to prioritize needless bullshit and ignore the real issues. -
2020-08-03 at 12:12 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kev Deforesting (now being done by proponents of "green energy"), erosion of the soil, plastic pollution of the ocean are legitimate topics that desperately need to be discussed. co2 levels and global warming arent one of them.
Why is CO2 accumulating in the atmosphere not a problem?
And don't you agree that fossil fuel depletion is an issue too?
That seems to me like we have two reasons why we should not be burning as much fossil fuel as we do. -
2020-08-03 at 12:15 PM UTC
Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING 2020 IV: Intravenous Soyposting https://lmgtfy.com/?q=hottest+year+on+record
first of all, post the actual link instead of a google search so i dont have to guess what you clicked but if its this one then i see no data, just an assertion. what was the average global temperature of 2019 exactly so i can compare it with 2005, was it a single day or all 365 days averaged out, where are they starting at? if their range is 2010-2019 then its plausible 2019 is the record in that range.
so many questions... so little research you bothered to do. -
2020-08-03 at 12:22 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kev first of all, post the actual link instead of a google search so i dont have to guess what you clicked but if its this one then i see no data, just an assertion. what was the average global temperature of 2019 exactly so i can compare it with 2005, was it a single day or all 365 days averaged out, where are they starting at? if their range is 2010-2019 then its plausible 2019 is the record in that range.
so many questions… so little research you bothered to do.
That link you posted actually gives a very good explanation of what was measured (total ocean heat content), as well as links to other articles explaining how it was measured.
Why do I need to do your research for you? And why are you trying to bring an ad hominem into the conversation? Did you learn the etiquette of forum discussion from Obbe? -
2020-08-03 at 12:59 PM UTC
Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING 2020 IV: Intravenous Soyposting Why is CO2 accumulating in the atmosphere not a problem?
because theres jack shit you can do about it. the CO2 levels will fluctuate with or without the permission of one species that will exist and go extinct like any other in a few million years.And don't you agree that fossil fuel depletion is an issue too?
of course, but what do we replace it with? -
2020-08-03 at 1:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING 2020 IV: Intravenous Soyposting That link you posted actually gives a very good explanation of what was measured (total ocean heat content), as well as links to other articles explaining how it was measured.
Why do I need to do your research for you? And why are you trying to bring an ad hominem into the conversation? Did you learn the etiquette of forum discussion from Obbe?
Don't bring me into this you little bitch.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2020-08-03 at 1:04 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kev the CO2 levels will fluctuate with or without the permission of one species that will exist and go extinct like any other in a few million years.
Except they're not "fluctuating" and you know it. They are increasing because almost our entire society is based on digging up fossil fuels and burning them.
Are you really unable to attribute smoke to a fire? -
2020-08-03 at 1:12 PM UTC
Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING 2020 IV: Intravenous Soyposting Except they're not "fluctuating" and you know it. They are increasing because almost our entire society is based on digging up fossil fuels and burning them.
Are you really unable to attribute smoke to a fire?
Do you believe everything the man behind the curtain tells you? -
2020-08-03 at 1:14 PM UTC
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2020-08-03 at 1:16 PM UTC
Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING 2020 IV: Intravenous Soyposting I know that our entire civilisation is based on creating CO2 and that the level of CO2 in the atmosphere is rising.
Yet somehow hose two things are not linked?
How do you know the CO2 levels are constantly rising? Do you have testing equipment that you take daily readings with?
No, but that is what the man behind the curtain tells you. -
2020-08-03 at 1:26 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker How do you know the CO2 levels are constantly rising? Do you have testing equipment that you take daily readings with?
Tactical nihilism.
Next up is "how do you know that CO2 is even real?"
Then "how do you know that you know".
I don't currently own a CO2 meter, but I have used them in the past.
