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People that leave dishes to soak and fester
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2020-07-31 at 5:03 PM UTC
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2020-07-31 at 5:22 PM UTCI don't use my dishwasher very often. It's too much of a commitment to have to wait and take it out when I can just clean the shit myself and move on.
I'm never gonna be as good as a machine but we haven't had food poisoning yet in three years so i must be doing something right.
The other day I dry rubbed a chicken and I was really stoned and started licking the liquid and spices left in the bowl because yum spices and then I was like what the fuck am I doing and washed everything with ten soap -
2020-07-31 at 5:44 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson It's scientifically proven that a dishwasher cleans better than doing them by hand in dirty dishwater and they wiping them with a bacilli filled rag or air drying which allows all kinds of fungi and bacteria to breed on the warm moist plates.
FILTHY HOR
1. Dishwashers are more hygienic. To kill most of the germs on your dirty dishes, you need water that's around 60°C or greater. This temperature is easily reached in 'super' and 'intensive' dishwasher cycles, but because of safety standards with most hot water systems, it's nearly impossible to reach via hand-washing.
You're dismissed.
It's not germs that bother me. My germs will kill your germs. It's the fact that it's fucking disgusting.
No dish machine will ever be as efficient as hand washing.
As far as temp goes, most people don't know how to increase the waters max temp or they're worried it'll spike the electric bill, but, I have experience growing mushrooms so I know how to do this as do a lot of people I know and I always turn the water on as hot as it'll go when washing dishes, not so much for germs but because it loosens stuff like grease better at a higher temp.
You're dismissed.
Edit, oh and don't try to tell me anything about fungi, bacteria or microbiology, that's an argument you won't win, trust me -
2020-07-31 at 5:46 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kuntzschutz It's not germs that bother me. My germs will kill your germs. It's the fact that it's fucking disgusting.
No dish machine will ever be as efficient as hand washing.
As far as temp goes, most people don't know how to increase the waters max temp or they're worried it'll spike the electric bill, but, I have experience growing mushrooms so I know how to do this as do a lot of people I know and I always turn the water on as hot as it'll go when washing dishes, not so much for germs but because it loosens stuff like grease better at a higher temp.
You're dismissed.
Edit, oh and don't try to tell me anything about fungi, bacteria or microbiology, that's an argument you won't win, trust me
You're opinion is just that. -
2020-07-31 at 5:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker You're opinion is just that.
Your*, and no, years of experience working directly with microbes is not an opinion. Do you know how hard it is to get a degree in mycology?
No mycologist or microbiologist will ever disagree with me on this.
Edit, yall get some petri dish/lab experience then get back to me -
2020-07-31 at 5:51 PM UTC
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2020-07-31 at 5:55 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson The civilized have dish washers (either mechanical ones or illegal mexican ones)
Unfortunately I am the dishwasher, my place I've been at the last six years doesn't have a dishwasher, kind of annoying but I just try to do things casually and not let them stack up, even with a dishwasher if you're lazy and don't rinse stuff off right away its still a problem. -
2020-07-31 at 5:55 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker You have no degree in mycology so it is still opinion.
Never stated I did, but several people I've learned from and discussed these things with over the years do. I actually have lab experience, so get some experience under your belt or cease discussing things you know absolutely fuck all about. -
2020-07-31 at 5:56 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kuntzschutz Your*, and no, years of experience working directly with microbes is not an opinion. Do you know how hard it is to get a degree in mycology?
No mycologist or microbiologist will ever disagree with me on this.
Edit, yall get some petri dish/lab experience then get back to me
speaking of mycology have you ever heard/taken those nootropic mushrooms lions minge and chapara or whatever? I only took it a few days so I don't think it built up in my system I just mixed it with Crouton and water and chugged it. the Crouton worked for sure though. -
2020-07-31 at 5:58 PM UTC
Originally posted by Bill Krozby Unfortunately I am the dishwasher, my place I've been at the last six years doesn't have a dishwasher, kind of annoying but I just try to do things casually and not let them stack up, even with a dishwasher if you're lazy and don't rinse stuff off right away its still a problem.
Yep, that's my whole point, you can't just throw a sloppy mess into the machine and expect it to come out spotless.
So you may as well not be lazy. -
2020-07-31 at 6 PM UTC
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2020-07-31 at 6:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by Bill Krozby speaking of mycology have you ever heard/taken those nootropic mushrooms lions minge and chapara or whatever? I only took it a few days so I don't think it built up in my system I just mixed it with Crouton and water and chugged it. the Crouton worked for sure though.
Nope but I have tried both store bought and wild red reishi and it actually works. I have a reishi log and a Lions mane log. That reminds me I need to make some more ceramic pots for the logs.
I haven't actually tried the Lions mane at all yet, not even tasted it. I'd imagine it does give a memory boost though. -
2020-07-31 at 6:02 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson I already did.
You're dismissed and forcibly removed from the building by a large black transsexual who we call Barry.
And you're just plain wrong. Lactobacillus is about the most you'll get in most climates. Even aureobasidium is unlikely, even in your shitty extra humid climate. -
2020-07-31 at 6:04 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kuntzschutz Never stated I did, but several people I've learned from and discussed these things with over the years do. I actually have lab experience, so get some experience under your belt or cease discussing things you know absolutely fuck all about.
I understand now. You don't know how to use a dishwasher. Thanks for clearing things up and setting me straight. -
2020-07-31 at 6:06 PM UTCI find myself being messier living alone than with someone insofar as I know I made the mess and am not causing anyone else any distress. I never let things get out of hand though. A few dirty dishes in the sink don't bother me. I'm a nut about cleaning my dishes before putting them in my dishwasher and my last dishwasher lasted 25 years without a problem before it started leaking. What is pissing me off latelyy is that my local Sam's Club hasn't had Cascade granules since the Covid hit. All they have now is the more expensive individual packets, the fuckers!
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2020-07-31 at 6:06 PM UTC
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2020-07-31 at 6:07 PM UTC
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2020-07-31 at 6:07 PM UTC
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2020-07-31 at 6:08 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kuntzschutz And you're just plain wrong. Lactobacillus is about the most you'll get in most climates. Even aureobasidium is unlikely, even in your shitty extra humid climate.
lololol so wrong it's laughable...as if ANY climate in the USA harbors only *1* example of bacteria and fungi...Laughingtons outloudingtons, Missouri. -
2020-07-31 at 6:12 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson lololol so wrong it's laughable…as if ANY climate in the USA harbors only *1* example of bacteria and fungi…Laughingtons outloudingtons, Missouri.
The point is, there's not going to be much nutrients in a sponge if you use enough soap and rinse well, and lactobacillus will likely be the dominant bacteria, and guess what? It lives in your nose and is harmless.
Plantarum in particular, also has a mechanism of preventing competitor fungi spores and bacterial cells from growing and germinating.
Give up, you've lost.