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Quantum computing will remain accessible only to states, academic institutions, large corporations
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2020-05-30 at 5:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny no it wont and many rich bill gates tier private citizens will have it.
No they won't. Quantum computer facilitiess cost $10b+ currently for a 20 qbit machine to even build. I.e. A 1mb machine total. (Edited)
The vast majority of the cost is because of the use of Josephson junctions, which need to be massively supercooled. Unless someone develops an actual room temperature superconductor (meaning it relies upon another sci-fi level tech advance), those costs don't and won't scale down, ever.it will be unregulated because the people who owns them are the same bunch of people that owns the government, and / or its politician when applicable.
It will be regulated because those people have the connections to get the necessary permissions and others won't, and will monopolize it for themselves under color of law.it most likely ended up being a private-public venture on the same way space x - nasa collaboration is.
Yes but only with massive corporations like Google and Amazon. Most public bodies won't even be able to access them. A master key is only useful if there are a very limited amount of then, otherwise the locks are just useless and other locks will be used.
Likely what will happen is that academic institutions, private engineering firms etc will have to purchase compute time, and this service will not be accessible to everybody. -
2020-05-30 at 5:54 PM UTCWhatever.
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2020-05-30 at 5:57 PM UTC
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2020-05-30 at 5:58 PM UTC
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2020-05-30 at 5:58 PM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE No they won't. Quantum computer facilitiess cost $10b+ currently for a 20 qbit machine to even build. I.e. A 400 bit machine total.
i assume you've seen an actual receipt for a quantum computer.
anyway, whats 10 billion to the likes of musk or bezos or even soros. look how easily wework raised almost 50 billion with nothing tangible.It will be regulated because those people have the connections to get the necessary permissions and others won't, and will monopolize it for themselves under color of law.
why would anyone waste the time and effort of any law makers to write legislations that legislate a something that only a few people have.
this is soppppppooo retarded.Yes but only with massive corporations like Google and Amazon. Most public bodies won't even be able to access them. A master key is only useful if there are a very limited amount of then, otherwise the locks are just useless and other locks will be used.
Likely what will happen is that academic institutions, private engineering firms etc will have to purchase compute time, and this service will not be accessible to everybody.
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2020-05-30 at 6:30 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny i assume you've seen an actual receipt for a quantum computer.
At least for Honeywell, and that is only 20 qbits, meaning 1mb.anyway, whats 10 billion to the likes of musk or bezos or even soros.
Totally unaffordable, specially considering that is the cost for a computer that isn't even useful for anything a 1mb classical PC isn't for. And then you have to run it. If they produce a 1000qb+ computer, it will likely easily be 50b+ if we are generous because the costs don't scale well at all.
look how easily wework raised almost 50 billion with nothing tangible.
Yeah they are a commercial business, they cannot dump $10h of that into a quantum computer. Nobody really can hit a select few bodies.
why would anyone waste the time and effort of any law makers to write legislations that legislate a something that only a few people have.
Only a few people will have the physical machine, but access to that machines will be sold to private businesses. Who will be allowed to purchase it and for what? It will be heavily regulated.yes, the eventual outcome of unrestrained capitalism is capital feudalism.
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2020-05-30 at 8:19 PM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE No they won't. Quantum computer facilitiess cost $10b+ currently for a 20 qbit machine to even build. I.e. A 1mb machine total. (Edited)
The vast majority of the cost is because of the use of Josephson junctions, which need to be massively supercooled. Unless someone develops an actual room temperature superconductor (meaning it relies upon another sci-fi level tech advance), those costs don't and won't scale down, ever.
It will be regulated because those people have the connections to get the necessary permissions and others won't, and will monopolize it for themselves under color of law.
Yes but only with massive corporations like Google and Amazon. Most public bodies won't even be able to access them. A master key is only useful if there are a very limited amount of then, otherwise the locks are just useless and other locks will be used.
Likely what will happen is that academic institutions, private engineering firms etc will have to purchase compute time, and this service will not be accessible to everybody.
you are literally retarded.
you only have to look at history to see the cost/performance rates of various technological advancements.
when 'computers' were first invented they took up a large sized room and cost more than any normal american could afford.
now a cheap wrist watch has several orders of magnitude more computational capacity than those 'super computers'
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2020-05-30 at 8:30 PM UTC
Originally posted by kobe bryant rapist you are literally retarded.
you only have to look at history to see the cost/performance rates of various technological advancements.
when 'computers' were first invented they took up a large sized room and cost more than any normal american could afford.
now a cheap wrist watch has several orders of magnitude more computational capacity than those 'super computers'
the same will happen with every technology.
Lol no -
2020-05-30 at 8:32 PM UTC
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2020-05-30 at 10:09 PM UTCyous a rich one frogbro
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2020-05-30 at 10:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by kobe bryant rapist you are literally retarded.
you only have to look at history to see the cost/performance rates of various technological advancements.
when 'computers' were first invented they took up a large sized room and cost more than any normal american could afford.
now a cheap wrist watch has several orders of magnitude more computational capacity than those 'super computers'
the same will happen with every technology.
Shut the fuck up dumb faggot. -
2020-05-31 at 3:17 AM UTC
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2020-05-31 at 3:17 AM UTC
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2020-05-31 at 7:32 AM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE At least for Honeywell, and that is only 20 qbits, meaning 1mb.
no, i meant you dont know for sure that a quantum computer actually costs 10 billion. i5 could be 8 billion research and 2 biklion hardware, it could be anything.Yeah they are a commercial business, they cannot dump $10h of that into a quantum computer. Nobody really can hit a select few bodies.
no, they can if they can convince the public to give them the money to do just that.Only a few people will have the physical machine, but access to that machines will be sold to private businesses. Who will be allowed to purchase it and for what? It will be heavily regulated.
no, it wont be regulated beyond the kind of regulations that regulate existing amusement parks inndetermining who gets to go in and amuse themselves and who not.Same thing will happen with Nazi China
it is already a way of life in most advanced and productive, democratic east and south east asian countries.
what do you think zaibatshus are. -
2020-05-31 at 12:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny no, i meant you dont know for sure that a quantum computer actually costs 10 billion. i5 could be 8 billion research and 2 biklion hardware, it could be anything.
It doesn't matter either way, unless you want a 1meg computer for multiple billions of dollars.
To some extent prices will drop and the power will go up as the same processes are streamlined and standardized but it won't make useful, high power QC any more accessible to most private interests, unless we get a scifi tech advance that allows suoercoductance at more reasonable temperatures.
The problem is you can't just buy a good quantum computer.
I mean you can, for example there are annealers available to private corps even this year, but they are not useful for any real application compared to the weakest classical computers. Just research because you will be able to do specific operations reliably.
The cutting edge general purpose stuff is a facility more than it is a computer. 99% of that is cooling equipment.no, they can if they can convince the public to give them the money to do just that.
Ok good luck with that. Same way nobody would give 50b to We work if they were proposing cratering it for QC research, because all those investors have better places to put their money.no, it wont be regulated beyond the kind of regulations that regulate existing amusement parks inndetermining who gets to go in and amuse themselves and who not.
No, access will be regulated because it poses a huge security threat to the world, and they want it for themselves. Similar to building nuclear bombs and reactors.it is already a way of life in most advanced and productive, democratic east and south east asian countries.
No it isn't.what do you think zaibatshus are.
It is literally a word that means "corporation" -
2020-05-31 at 12:58 PM UTCFuny
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2020-05-31 at 5:20 PM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE It doesn't matter either way, unless you want a 1meg computer for multiple billions of dollars.
if you cant be right about the cost then your most likely to be wrong about everything else.To some extent prices will drop and the power will go up as the same processes are streamlined and standardized but it won't make useful, high power QC any more accessible to most private interests, unless we get a scifi tech advance that allows suoercoductance at more reasonable temperatures.
The problem is you can't just buy a good quantum computer.
depends on who you are.I mean you can, for example there are annealers available to private corps even this year, but they are not useful for any real application compared to the weakest classical computers. Just research because you will be able to do specific operations reliably.
The cutting edge general purpose stuff is a facility more than it is a computer. 99% of that is cooling equipment.
in the future it will.Ok good luck with that. Same way nobody would give 50b to We work if they were proposing cratering it for QC research, because all those investors have better places to put their money.
you have no idea how stupid investors really are. you should have seen how much money flows thru robinhood.No, access will be regulated because it poses a huge security threat to the world, and they want it for themselves. Similar to building nuclear bombs and reactors.
no, this is stupid. fast computers arent nuclear bombs.It is literally a word that means "corporation"
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2020-05-31 at 6:53 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny if you cant be right about the cost then your most likely to be wrong about everything else.
If you can't show me I'm wrong about the cost, you.kodt likely can't gowmke anything else anyway.
OOPS.depends on who you are.
There is not a single person on the planet who can build an actually useful quantum computer right now let alone raise money for a personal one.in the future it will.
No it won't.you have no idea how stupid investors really are. you should have seen how much money flows thru robinhood.
Nah, you are pretty stupid tho. Private investors won't crater billions into a research project with no foreseeable commercial applications. They have better places to out their money.no, this is stupid. fast computers arent nuclear bombs.
Quantum computers are more dangerous than nuclear bombs.wrong.
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2020-05-31 at 7:31 PM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE If you can't show me I'm wrong about the cost, you.kodt likely can't gowmke anything else anyway. [
OOPS.There is not a single person on the planet who can build an actually useful quantum computer right now let alone raise money for a personal one.
now doesnt represent the future.No it won't.
yes it will.Nah, you are pretty stupid tho. Private investors won't crater billions into a research project with no foreseeable commercial applications. They have better places to out their money.
thats not how public fund raising works. no individuals would want to throw billions into such project, maybe true, but millions might dump thousands into such project.
thays how stocks work.Quantum computers are more dangerous than nuclear bombs.
Actually you're wrong.
no you.
