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New surveillance footage shows Armed Robbery walking around construction site
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2020-05-17 at 6:08 AM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE Seriously, they tried to HALT HIM BY DISPLAYING GUNS AND BLOCKING HIM, what sort of response is "run away"? You think he will Usain Bolt away faster than cars and bullets? Or trust their better judgment to not do what they are threatening, i.e. stopping you by using their guns?
All I know is that its a hell of a lot harder to hit a moving target than someone running at you, and its a lot more of a legal gamble to shoot a fleeing suspect and try to claim something or other than it is to “be able” to kill someone who has physically assaulted you and now has their hands on your firearm. -
2020-05-17 at 6:09 AM UTCOn the shooter you're right and I was mistaken. It's the father in the bed of the truck. I mixed up who was Travis and George. And it was the son, with the shotgun, who got him.
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2020-05-17 at 6:15 AM UTC
Originally posted by CASPER All I know is that its a hell of a lot harder to hit a moving target than someone running at you, and its a lot more of a legal gamble to shoot a fleeing suspect and try to claim something or other than it is to “be able” to kill someone who has physically assaulted you and now has their hands on your firearm.
I shoot 110mm clay pigeons moving at high speed over way longer distances.
And yes certainly in this situation your highest self defence instance would totally be "I wanna make my death as legally complicated as possible" in the hopes that the legal complexity deters them from shooting you, rather than "oh shit they are literally about to make me fight for my life". -
2020-05-17 at 6:27 AM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE I shoot 110mm clay pigeons moving at high speed over way longer distances.
And yes certainly in this situation your highest self defence instance would totally be "I wanna make my death as legally complicated as possible" in the hopes that the legal complexity deters them from shooting you, rather than "oh shit they are literally about to make me fight for my life".
Thats also birdshot at long distances in a predictable arc. Defensive ammo from a shotgun at 40-50 yards is going to be a group roughly the size of a saucer. Youd have roughly the same comparative accuracy firing a handgun in quick succession.
Thats not m6 argument. If theyre driving past you trying to get you to stop instead of just grabbing you, they probably know they dont have the authority to stop you.If they put hands on you, by all means- youve been assaulted. Defend yourself. If youre a block away, and k ow theres a potential threat, i would definitely not suggest closing the distance to try to bruce lee your way to a peaceful outcome. idk the initiation of force laws so im not gonna guess, ill just say its not at all what i wouldve done.
But the shooter was on the complete other side of the road. Not an obstruction that couldnt have been avoided by going any other direction. The dude in the bed didnt point any gun at him. The guy with the shotgun (from what i can see) didnt point any gun until Arbery made contact. I wouldve bet money that had arbery run straight, or any other direction, they wouldve slowly just followed him around yelling STOP RIGHT THERE WE WANNA HAVE A WORD until the cops got there. -
2020-05-17 at 7:44 AM UTC
Originally posted by CASPER Thats also birdshot at long distances in a predictable arc. Defensive ammo from a shotgun at 40-50 yards is going to be a group roughly the size of a saucer. Youd have roughly the same comparative accuracy firing a handgun in quick succession.
Per shell. And who knows what kind of choke they have?Thats not m6 argument. If theyre driving past you trying to get you to stop instead of just grabbing you, they probably know they dont have the authority to stop you.
And? If a criminal walks up to you in an alley, puts a knife to your throat and says "give me your shit faggot", it is obvious he doesn't have the authority to stop you either. So?If they put hands on you, by all means- youve been assaulted. Defend yourself.
No, you do not need to have hands put on you to be assaulted. We aren't playing wild west gunslinger rules where then sheriff can't justify shooting till the outlaw touches leather.If youre a block away, and kmow theres a potential threat, i would definitely not suggest closing the distance to try to bruce lee your way to a peaceful outcome. idk the initiation of force laws so im not gonna guess, ill just say its not at all what i wouldve done.
You are just being blatantly disingenuous and repeatedly talking like he was the one who attacked them, which is just a lie. One, he was being boxed in from the front and behind and there was really nowhere to go. He was a jogger, he was likely jogging a preset route and all there is any evidence of him wanting to do is jog, and jog on by as evidenced by his swerving.
They deliberately obstructed him and put him in a threatening position.But the shooter was on the complete other side of the road. Not an obstruction that couldnt have been avoided by going any other direction.
You are blatantly lying or blind. The right half of the road is occupied by the truck, and immediately to the left is the shooter. As the victim comes around the bend, the option is to run straight i.e. run right by the man with the gun, so he goes left. The shooter moves to the middle of the road and is carrying a shotgun. He obstructs him. Do you only count it when he can whip him with the shotgun stock?The dude in the bed didnt point any gun at him. The guy with the shotgun (from what i can see) didnt point any gun until Arbery made contact.
You are acting legitimately fucking retarded. At this point in the situation, even if nobody pointed their weapon at him first, it doesn't make a god damn difference: of course you should rather act in self defence when there is an imminent threat but the gun ISN'T pointed at you rather than waiting for it to be, at which point you are dead. The assault had already initiated.
Second, you made the determination that he never pointed the gun before being "attacked" based on what you DID NOT see: the camera moves away and we cannot see what happened... but because you are already biased and committed to your conclusion, your hypothesis about what happened is that the victim mid jog decides for no reason to Bruce Lee attack the polite gentleman holding a shotgun and trying to have a chat... As opposed to that they tried to do exactly what they set out to do, which was to try to stop and question him with the threat of guns. Yeah I think it is safe to assume that the reason why he ends up defending himself is because when he tried to go around the truck (probably to put the truck between himself and the man with a shotgun standing in the middle of the road), he raised the gun at him. Even if he didn't, being at literal gunpoint isn't the threshold for self defense.I wouldve bet money that had arbery run straight, or any other direction, they wouldve slowly just followed him around yelling STOP RIGHT THERE WE WANNA HAVE A WORD until the cops got there.
No this is just mental gymnastics and self delusion. You know that is not true. If he kept running in a straight line, he would go right by the father, and you would have said "THE NIGGER WAS COMING RIGHT AT HIM, IT WAS SELF DEFENSE".
If they wanted to just follow him telling him to stop, that's what they would have done, why even get out of the car? You think you can best a black guy who likes to run, on foot?... Instead they went to cut him off, got out of the cars and got their guns ready. That's the thing, the situation was already way past the point of letting him leave. They were gonna stop him no matter what. -
2020-05-17 at 8:45 AM UTCThese threads are always interesting, because they show that those who hate us will show us no mercy or justice.
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2020-05-17 at 10:03 AM UTCThe only relevant fact in this case is that white people stood up for themselves.
I had a long discussion about this with Tacho on Zoklet about the time of Trayvon (another gud boi), and eventually it wound up that he said that allowing whites any sort of rights as a self-aware racial group was the most dangerous thing in the world as that inevitably leads to the holocaust, and any price is OK to stop that, including sending people like Zimmerman to prison for defending themselves while being "white".
The holocaust is the essential foundational myth that justifies just about anything they do to us. -
2020-05-17 at 10:07 AM UTC
Originally posted by Cathay Coof The only relevant fact in this case is that white people stood up for themselves.
I had a long discussion about this with Tacho on Zoklet about the time of Trayvon (another gud boi), and eventually it wound up that he said that allowing whites any sort of rights as a self-aware racial group was the most dangerous thing in the world as that inevitably leads to the holocaust, and any price is OK to stop that, including sending people like Zimmerman to prison for defending themselves while being "white".
The holocaust is the essential foundational myth that justifies just about anything they do to us.
thats what happen when you dont support the IRA. -
2020-05-17 at 10:20 AM UTC
Originally posted by Cathay Coof The only relevant fact in this case is that white people stood up for themselves.
Nah, most white people think you are retarded.
Redneck retard weekend warriors went out and lynched an innocent jogger due to fear of brown people. Now they are facing justice. Their psychotic racism is off the street and there are now 2 fewer morons, and the heel dragging of their local authorities fucther exposed the corruption of the American criminal justice system. And yet the life of an athletic young black man is gone. The lives of everyone around him will never be the same. A tragedy is what happened. And justice is slowly being served, both to the memory of Ahmaud Arbery (may he rest in peace) and the wider American community.I had a long discussion about this with Tacho on Zoklet about the time of Trayvon (another gud boi), and eventually it wound up that he said that allowing whites any sort of rights as a self-aware racial group was the most dangerous thing in the world as that inevitably leads to the holocaust, and any price is OK to stop that, including sending people like Zimmerman to prison for defending themselves while being "white".
The holocaust is the essential foundational myth that justifies just about anything they do to us.
The problem with your larva brain is that one racist crooked eyed locomotive nigger's babblings on the internet is pretty much the only interaction you ever had with a black person and now you are hung up babbling about some stupid shit that happened 10 years ago to bring the holocaust into some shit that has nothing to do with it.
I legit thought you must be 14 or 15 years old because you are literally the exact same insect level intellect as vegans and feminists and Reddit communists and shit, who are usually impressionable kids who fell into some YouTube hole. But no apparently you are a full-grown, almost middle aged man. It's astounding. You have such an underdeveloped mind. I just pray this is actually secretly some sort of "character" you play as some kind of ineffective untertrolling like Benny.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2020-05-17 at 10:42 AM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE Nah, most white people think you are retarded.
Redneck retard weekend warriors went out and lynched an innocent jogger due to fear of brown people. Now they are facing justice. Their psychotic racism is off the street and there are now 2 fewer morons, and the heel dragging of their local authorities fucther exposed the corruption of the American criminal justice system. And yet the life of an athletic young black man is gone. The lives of everyone around him will never be the same. A tragedy is what happened. And justice is slowly being served, both to the memory of Ahmaud Arbery (may he rest in peace) and the wider American community.
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2020-05-17 at 11:56 AM UTC
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2020-05-17 at 2:04 PM UTC
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2020-05-17 at 2:10 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra he actually reported (not to the police, to local newspapers and interviewers) that there had been a few thefts in the past, but apparently withdrew the claims because he feared for his safety
obviously. like a scared little bitch.
this is why the kikes and niggers get away with what theyre getting away with. no consequences. they werent so uppity a few decades ago when the KKK would have them doing LARPing as christmas tree ornaments when they got out of line. -
2020-05-17 at 2:10 PM UTCNah they dont hate white people casper. I hear sometimes blacks even grab their guns and go stop white people on the road to talk to them because they love them so much.
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