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20% of Corona cases need hospital, 10% ventillation
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2020-03-28 at 8:03 PM UTC
It's way, way more contagious and it takes 7-14 days before most folks know their sick.
https://science.slashdot.org/story/20/03/27/176209/boris-johnson-uk-prime-minister-has-the-coronavirus
The virus is far worse than previous outbreaks too. More lethal and many times more will need hospitalization. You wouldn't know this if you're not reading CDC announcements in detail. About 40-70% will get it depending on how much quarantining we do. 20% of those will need hospitalization. 5-10% of those will need ventilators.
Finally, we've been running our hospitals with the same high profit margin "Just in Time" business practices we use in retail. The result is massively understaffed hospitals. It's why we can have a high nurse to patient ratios but nursing wages are still going down. Hospitals aren't hiring anything more than the bare minimum needed to stay afloat, and we're not training more nurses so our colleges don't have enough capacity. My kid's about to graduate with a 4 year nursing degree from a major University, so I get an earful of this.
And it wasn't just China being irresponsible. _Everybody_ knew the unregulated wet markets were a bad idea. But they were great for the incomes of rural folk, so the risks were written off as justifiable in exchange for the benefits. There's plenty of foreign policy that should have been going on to make China tighten control of those markets and none of it was done because the good times they were a rollin'
One last thing, if you _do_ end up in the population that needs a ventilator prepare for hell. If you don't get one you die horribly, literally drowning in your own mucus. If you _do_ get one first, expect permanent lung damage. Next, get ready for a living nightmare. You will wish you died. It's called "intubulation" because they ram a breathing tube down your throat. You will instinctively try to remove it, so they will restrain you. For weeks. Up to 8 weeks depending on how serious a case you have.
This is way more serious, and Wall Street knows it. They want us back to work because they know we won't settle for starving to death and being homeless and they don't want to pay for us to take the 90-180 day vacation needed to stop this thing. Our lives, _your_ life, don't matter to them. [businessinsider.com]
The crazy thing is the number of people who, when told they must die for Wall Street, have responded with "Ok". -
2020-03-28 at 8:10 PM UTC
20% of those will need hospitalization. 5-10% of those will need ventilators.
Thread title is misleading. If I’m reading this right, 5-10% of the 20% hospitalized will need ventilators. In other words, of the total of those infected, about 1-2% -
2020-03-28 at 8:14 PM UTCi hit all 4 options
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2020-03-28 at 8:20 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fox Thread title is misleading. If I’m reading this right, 5-10% of the 20% hospitalized will need ventilators. In other words, of the total of those infected, about 1-2%
Depends. In the west, where people are older and, crucially, fatter, 10% ventilation is reasonable. In China the rate is much lower, about 1%. Being overweight is a huge risk factor. -
2020-03-28 at 8:24 PM UTC*of those they tested and found positive
Not of those infected
Infected count is likely higher in pretty much every country. -
2020-03-28 at 8:25 PM UTCLiberal twinks on YouTube predicted corona virus outbreak
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2020-03-28 at 8:31 PM UTCits probably closer to .05% of cases require medical attention and 0.005% require serious medical attention, since, you know, we've all had it like 20 fucking times.
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2020-03-28 at 8:31 PM UTC
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2020-03-28 at 8:40 PM UTC
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2020-03-28 at 9:02 PM UTCThe only people that get tested in the US are people that need medical intervention. They’re ramping up things in NYC, but not here. Our director of the dept of health asks people to stay home and quarantine if sick. In Ohio you only get tested if you’re an exposed healthcare professional, or if you’re becoming very sick and need to go to the hospital.
There will be 10s of thousands of cases that will go unlogged here. -
2020-03-28 at 9:09 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist The only people that get tested in the US are people that need medical intervention.
I’m an essential worker. The state health department is working closely with my employer. I could get tested right now if I asked, but it would be pointless since I know I don’t have it -
2020-03-28 at 9:15 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fox I’m an essential worker. The state health department is working closely with my employer. I could get tested right now if I asked, but it would be pointless since I know I don’t have it
That’s good to know, not the same here. My husband is an essential worker, but if he gets mildly ill, he will be told to self quarantine for two weeks, unless he has difficulty breathing. I only got tested because I’m a healthcare worker who was directly exposed. Our director of the health dept stated today that not all of our counties even have testing. She makes it clear daily that our numbers are higher but since there is a lack of testing, we’ll never really know the true positive numbers. -
2020-03-29 at 1:22 AM UTC
Originally posted by snab_snib its probably closer to .05% of cases require medical attention and 0.005% require serious medical attention, since, you know, we've all had it like 20 fucking times.
Originally posted by snab_snib literally everyone has had it multiple times in their life.
no, we're not talking about you're uncle coming into you're room in the middle of the night to pit his p unto you're b. -
2020-03-29 at 4:31 AM UTCApparently once admitted to the ICU for COVID-19, you have a roughly 50% survival rate.
Also, 70% of those admitted are fatties. Snab snib is in big trouble -
2020-03-29 at 5:48 AM UTCcoof crew checking in
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2020-03-29 at 5:49 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra coof crew checking in
https://www.wtnh.com/news/health/coronavirus/uconn-health-doctor-charged-accused-of-intentionally-coughing-on-medical-employees-during-coronavirus-outbreak/ -
2020-03-29 at 5:55 AM UTClol, doing God's work
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2020-03-29 at 10:54 AM UTCYet somehow people are still amazed and calling these shutdowns an overreaction. "The government knows more than they're telling us"
Do they not read the news? It's plenty bad and already stretching hospital resources... And its only going to get worse. It'll probably come back again. This stuff usually happens in waves. -
2020-03-29 at 11:14 AM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace Yet somehow people are still amazed and calling these shutdowns an overreaction. "The government knows more than they're telling us"
Do they not read the news? It's plenty bad and already stretching hospital resources… And its only going to get worse. It'll probably come back again. This stuff usually happens in waves.
your not an expert of infectious diseases. -
2020-03-29 at 12:51 PM UTC
