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Society takes too much effort
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2020-03-26 at 3:19 PM UTCThey don't do that
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2020-03-26 at 3:33 PM UTC
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2020-03-26 at 3:39 PM UTC
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2020-03-26 at 3:45 PM UTCsure.
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2020-03-26 at 3:45 PM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood I have no problem getting professional training, i've done it before. I got my forklift operator license recently. Most people I worked for grew up in an era where there were no licenses for driving forklift, maybe only in the biggest companies.
That is literally a 2 to 3 hour course that requires almost no effort. You cant use this as the bar for effort and professional training
I agree that effort is obviously a good measurement for success. You have extremely low effort and have lived on welfare for over a year and have done no networking in Canadas best city to network and work in. You are FAR below average in terms of the effort you put into your own situation. Your IQ is probably in the normal range seeing as how you try to justify instead of being resigned to your situation. I think your reference point for a lot of things is screwed up too.
The Effort required to make a small business work (as anyone will tell you, you have to wear many hats and work many hours) is literally the backbone of capitalism, STFU about some coal burning commie that isnt relevant to this conversation. A small business can be grown through ones own effort and basically nothing else. Small business owners facilitate our economic growth and welfare recipients take from it, especially if they are able bodied and under 50.
Many tradespeople who own businesses (either on paper or not) pretend to be low IQ high effort individuals when in fact they are the opposite. If you are moderately intelligent you can scam the government out of GST, EI payments etc etc etc and pretend youre just a dummy who has to go bankrupt after. There are so many ways to benefit from high Effort people when you are a low effort high intelligence person.
The problem is your IQ isnt high enough to benefit like this. The things you have focused your time on have not resulted in productivity or even much net benefit whatsoever. In this way you need "retooling" to become more useful. You certainly can do it, you need to change the way you think about some things though because you have spent so long doing fuck all you dont have a reference point for how people are supposed to function.
Now youre in the welfare trap and cant find your way out of it because effort is scary to you. -
2020-03-26 at 3:47 PM UTCdamn- wall of txt, Sudo!
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2020-03-26 at 4 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo A small business can be grown through ones own effort and basically nothing else.
That's exactly what i'm saying...
Originally posted by Netflxchillr damn- wall of txt, Sudo!
cliff notes?😬
I think he just needed an excuse to yell at me. My existence triggers him.
I'm not saying society takes too much effort for me. It's easy to succeed if you apply yourself. But I wrote this thinking about low IQ people who can't pass a test to save their life.
Like I think most criminals and non productive people do have some skills but the world is just too rigid and filled with red tape to allow them to flourish. Like if you look at people who started companies in the 1900s a lot of them were uneducated and had some bad habits but now their legacy is worth billions of dollars and they won't hire anyone unless they have 10 years experience in the field.
This has nothing to do with me it's about society man calm down and stop projecting with your borderline off topic rants -
2020-03-26 at 4:01 PM UTC
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2020-03-26 at 4:12 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny yes, and consistent with the spirits and the maxims of democracy where majority represents everybody …..
erm. you're making a blanket statement that doesn't always apply. So, i, still, will have to disagree. yes, the majority, ultimately, represents the body- but not always representative of..."everybody" within it. 😉 -
2020-03-26 at 4:14 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo STFU about some coal burning commie that isnt relevant to this conversation.
It is relevant. He was just a simple worker who mined coal, he worked really hard so the government put him through industrial training at the Moscow Industrial Academy. His final position before retirement was Assistant chief engineer.
This would basically be impossible nowadays for any common worker. In fact, getting into the mining industry is actually not that easy. I've thought about it before, mining is cool as fuck but then I learned about all the training required to do such simple jobs because of the culture of safety in the minerals industry, similar in oil and gas. I'm from Alberta and everyone just says GO TO FORT MAC AND MAKE THE BIG BUCKS, maybe that was true like 50 years ago but nowadays the amount of things required just to get into the industry is insane and it gets more strict every year. I guess that weeds out the common joe from doing the job and only leaving trained professionals, which is exactly the point i'm bringing up. What does a low IQ person do in a situation like that?
You would think mining is just some shitty job anyone can do but nowadays you have to go to school to do anything like that. Like in Denmark they won't let you wash dishes unless you take a course (provided free by the government) but still, if you are low IQ and can't pass the dishwashing test what the hell are you supposed to do. -
2020-03-26 at 4:16 PM UTC
Originally posted by Netflxchillr erm. you're making a blanket statement that doesn't always apply. So, i, still, will have to disagree. yes, the majority, ultimately, represents the body- but not always representative of…"everybody" within it. 😉
whats the color of rats ?
how many legs does a dog ahve ? -
2020-03-26 at 4:19 PM UTC
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2020-03-26 at 8:09 PM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood It is relevant. He was just a simple worker who mined coal, he worked really hard so the government put him through industrial training at the Moscow Industrial Academy. His final position before retirement was Assistant chief engineer.
This would basically be impossible nowadays for any common worker. In fact, getting into the mining industry is actually not that easy. I've thought about it before, mining is cool as fuck but then I learned about all the training required to do such simple jobs because of the culture of safety in the minerals industry, similar in oil and gas. I'm from Alberta and everyone just says GO TO FORT MAC AND MAKE THE BIG BUCKS, maybe that was true like 50 years ago but nowadays the amount of things required just to get into the industry is insane and it gets more strict every year. I guess that weeds out the common joe from doing the job and only leaving trained professionals, which is exactly the point i'm bringing up. What does a low IQ person do in a situation like that?
You would think mining is just some shitty job anyone can do but nowadays you have to go to school to do anything like that. Like in Denmark they won't let you wash dishes unless you take a course (provided free by the government) but still, if you are low IQ and can't pass the dishwashing test what the hell are you supposed to do.
fuck I typed a big response to this then quoted another post and was replying to that but then I got distracted and stopped and did other stuff and went back to my phone and its all deleted and shit.
Basically you are lazy but not beyond hope. I ironically cannot put the effort into this post.
Stop making excuses, you just dont want to be productive that much and that's ok, just dont ever complain about anything and dont have any expectations about what you want to get out of life and society. I know you can be a better provider for you and your trap waifu if you use some fucking skillz but youre too lazy and alienated.
This is a good thread though, I will try to write a better reply later -
2020-03-26 at 8:11 PM UTC
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2020-03-26 at 8:54 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo That is literally a 2 to 3 hour course that requires almost no effort. You cant use this as the bar for effort and professional training
I agree that effort is obviously a good measurement for success. You have extremely low effort and have lived on welfare for over a year and have done no networking in Canadas best city to network and work in. You are FAR below average in terms of the effort you put into your own situation. Your IQ is probably in the normal range seeing as how you try to justify instead of being resigned to your situation. I think your reference point for a lot of things is screwed up too.
The Effort required to make a small business work (as anyone will tell you, you have to wear many hats and work many hours) is literally the backbone of capitalism, STFU about some coal burning commie that isnt relevant to this conversation. A small business can be grown through ones own effort and basically nothing else. Small business owners facilitate our economic growth and welfare recipients take from it, especially if they are able bodied and under 50.
Many tradespeople who own businesses (either on paper or not) pretend to be low IQ high effort individuals when in fact they are the opposite. If you are moderately intelligent you can scam the government out of GST, EI payments etc etc etc and pretend youre just a dummy who has to go bankrupt after. There are so many ways to benefit from high Effort people when you are a low effort high intelligence person.
The problem is your IQ isnt high enough to benefit like this. The things you have focused your time on have not resulted in productivity or even much net benefit whatsoever. In this way you need "retooling" to become more useful. You certainly can do it, you need to change the way you think about some things though because you have spent so long doing fuck all you dont have a reference point for how people are supposed to function.
Now youre in the welfare trap and cant find your way out of it because effort is scary to you.
Wow what a pathetic rant about IQ, holy shit lmao. Coming from a convicted felon, basically saying "ya if u have high eye cue you can scam better" i mean fucking hell lol. What a sad mind you have, Sudo. Living a life obsessed with deception. Lie to the government, lie to your girlfriend, your friends... You tell us you lie to everyone in your life. Why the fuck should we believe anything you say is true.
But sure lets get scron to scam the government too... As if he and hts aren't already.
Guess you guys have that in common ey? Only, one of you works for it and the other doesnt. Winner seems clear to me here, and its not you. -
2020-03-26 at 8:58 PM UTC