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Putin passes law allowing Putin to run for president again
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2020-03-11 at 12:35 AM UTChttps://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/world/europe/putin-president-russia.html
I guess after Xi did it he had nothing to lose. I'm sure Trump is jealous.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2020-03-11 at 12:40 AM UTCgood. I'm wearing my putin shirt right now. it has his signature on the back.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2020-03-11 at 12:58 AM UTCHas to be CIA misinformation lolz
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2020-03-11 at 1 AM UTC
Originally posted by larrylegend8383 Has to be CIA misinformation lolz
Nah he kinda already did something similar a few years ago when he extended his term.
Exactly what xi did btw. Extend term, remove term limits, re-election forever. Its the democratic cheat code to authoritarianism. Hitler did the same thing, as have many other dictators and autocrats through history.
Trump has also openly admitted to wanting this done. Presumably because he knows he's fucked the minute he loses his presidential protections. -
2020-03-11 at 1:06 AM UTC
The legislation must still be approved by Russia’s Constitutional Court and a nationwide referendum in April
“Referendum”, people are allowed to vote in Russia? -
2020-03-11 at 1:10 AM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace Trump has also openly admitted to wanting this done. Presumably because he knows he's fucked the minute he loses his presidential protections.
No it’s because he wants power for its own sake. More fuel for his ego. You really think trump believes he’s actually done anything wrong? Why would he think he needs protection. In his own mind he’s just the best guy -
2020-03-11 at 1:14 AM UTC
Originally posted by Fox “Referendum”, people are allowed to vote in Russia?
??? Yes. Putin is voted in every 6 years or something. China also has elections although they are a lot different than what we're used to. People don't vote for Xi. They vote for a local congress member who votes in the presidential election for them, which unlike the US is not based on an electoral/majority system its just whatever the congressperson wants to vote for. -
2020-03-11 at 1:16 AM UTCWhat about in Russia do people vote directly for him or do they vote in local elections and those people vote for him? I have no idea how their electoral system works
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2020-03-11 at 1:25 AM UTC
Originally posted by Fox What about in Russia do people vote directly for him or do they vote in local elections and those people vote for him? I have no idea how their electoral system works
I don't really know how it works in Russia but I will google it and then finish writing my post so that I look like I knew to begin with.
But, yes. I knew it all along but the people do vote in the presidential election. I think the next one will be in 2024. Putin would have been ineligible to run again (previously there was only two consecutive terms allowed) but now he can just keep running over and over.
Not that Russia had fair elections to begin with but this is pretty damn detrimental to running a just democracy. This should require some constitutional amendation or something. -
2020-03-11 at 1:59 AM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace This should require some constitutional amendation or something.
That's what the referendum is for lol
The change to term limits is only one part of the package of proposed changes that are coming up and I doubt Putin even wants another term given how much he's been talking about retiring -
2020-03-11 at 2:04 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra That's what the referendum is for lol
The change to term limits is only one part of the package of proposed changes that are coming up and I doubt Putin even wants another term given how much he's been talking about retiring
lulz
I don't know tho, if you look at what he's passing it would seem very evident he plans on staying in office. He's basically trying to repeal stuff that has already been passed which would go into effect in 2024. There's some limits on presidential powers planned that I forget. If he's not running again I feel like whoever takes his place will probably be in power for a while.
Either way its not a good law. Also he may just be saying this in case he is ineligible to run if it doesn't get passed. "I was gonna quit anyway"
or maybe not I don't fucking know -
2020-03-11 at 5:24 AM UTCRussia needs Putin. He's the embodiment of Russian nationalism, and the only thing stopping the West undoing what nearly a century of Communism built up.
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2020-03-11 at 5:32 AM UTC
Originally posted by Octavian Russia needs Putin. He's the embodiment of Russian nationalism, and the only thing stopping the West undoing what nearly a century of Communism built up.
a lot of the west believes this, but as far as Russian politicians go he's actually very moderate. I'm not sure who would be next up in the party roster if he were to retire, but I can almost guarantee it will be someone MORE nationalistic, militaristic, communist and generally anti-west. -
2020-03-11 at 6:01 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra a lot of the west believes this, but as far as Russian politicians go he's actually very moderate. I'm not sure who would be next up in the party roster if he were to retire, but I can almost guarantee it will be someone MORE nationalistic, militaristic, communist and generally anti-west.
He needs to focus on the generation who will take the reins and condition them to think the same. If he fails to do that Russia will end up with a new regime of liberal fags come his retirement.
I always believe the next person should always be young but not too young. Someone that can relate to the people, not some hand picked adherent that will already be on their way out due to old age etc. -
2020-03-11 at 6:08 AM UTC
Originally posted by Octavian He needs to focus on the generation who will take the reins and condition them to think the same. If he fails to do that Russia will end up with a new regime of liberal fags come his retirement.
that's a large part of what this electoral reform is, trying to limit foreign influence - and popular Russian 'liberalism' is almost totally a foreign operation, supported through NGOs and foreign-funded media.
One of the major new rules to be voted on is that anyone in the running for a government role must be a sole Russian citizen (no dual citizenship) and they must've lived in Russia for the last 20 years. -
2020-03-11 at 6:19 AM UTCI think he realised he's in too deep to even think about retiring. His remaining years will be spent stressing over when he'll be arrested if some reactionary decides to stab him in the back or somehow become a victim to Western influence, (highly unlikely even if he did).
I genuinely think he enjoys the fatherly role he plays. Not to mention most Russians have only known Putin, and couldn't imagine anyone else. A somewhat unusual sentiment was felt when Stalin died but that was due in part to winning the war. -
2020-03-11 at 7:01 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra a lot of the west believes this, but as far as Russian politicians go he's actually very moderate. I'm not sure who would be next up in the party roster if he were to retire, but I can almost guarantee it will be someone MORE nationalistic, militaristic, communist and generally anti-west.
one of his generals then. -
2020-03-11 at 10:32 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra a lot of the west believes this, but as far as Russian politicians go he's actually very moderate. I'm not sure who would be next up in the party roster if he were to retire, but I can almost guarantee it will be someone MORE nationalistic, militaristic, communist and generally anti-west.
^reads RT -
2020-03-11 at 10:34 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra that's a large part of what this electoral reform is, trying to limit foreign influence - and popular Russian 'liberalism' is almost totally a foreign operation, supported through NGOs and foreign-funded media.
One of the major new rules to be voted on is that anyone in the running for a government role must be a sole Russian citizen (no dual citizenship) and they must've lived in Russia for the last 20 years.
Its kinda weird now. 10yrs residency and over 35. I wonder if any immigrants actually win -
2020-03-11 at 10:47 AM UTC
