I fucking hate devops

1. 2021-09-21 at 11:25 PM UTC

   #1
   filtration African Astronaut
   words of wisdom?
2. 2021-09-21 at 11:40 PM UTC

   #2
   

   rabbitweed African Astronaut
   Me too.
   
   It's easier than ever to deploy a web app, so what does the industry do? Complicate it.
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3. 2021-09-29 at 7:34 PM UTC

   #3
   

   Lanny Bird of Courage
   What does devops mean to you?
   
   Asking because I'm never sure what people are actually trying to say with it.
4. 2021-09-30 at 4:56 PM UTC

   #4
   filtration African Astronaut

   Originally posted by Lanny What does devops mean to you?
   
   Asking because I'm never sure what people are actually trying to say with it.

   
   setting up the servers, database back ups etc, currently I'm using Digital Ocean's App Platform, and I'm willing to spend 10x so I don't have to deal with it... I've looked at things like Dokku and terraform, and shit but it's too much to take in...
5. 2021-09-30 at 5 PM UTC

   #5
   filtration African Astronaut
   I once wrote a website with 20 micro services and keeping them all versioned, and compatible, along with backups and health checks, I gave up
6. 2021-09-30 at 6:36 PM UTC

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   Lanny Bird of Courage

   Originally posted by filtration setting up the servers, database back ups etc, currently I'm using Digital Ocean's App Platform, and I'm willing to spend 10x so I don't have to deal with it… I've looked at things like Dokku and terraform, and shit but it's too much to take in…

   
   I see, well I mean dedicated housing and VPS hosting are still out there, and commodified to the point of being pretty cheap.
   
   I think managing boxes is still the “simplest” way to get something on the web unless you’re just doing statics. It doesn’t scale great, but I promise you running a web, db, and backup server (aka all most people will ever need) is easier than doing the equivalent setup on the flavor of the month cloud thing.
   
   Terraform was cool when I used it last. At least it was a lot more humane than setting things up through the web console or gluing aws-cli calls together with bash. But yeah, it’s a lot to learn if you’re just trying to stand up your standard CRUD stack.
7. 2021-10-01 at 9:09 PM UTC

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   The Self Taught Man Black Hole
   Maybe devops sucks but you should see what the alternative looks like.
   
   Basically devops = developers deploying shit.
   
   What came before = people who don't understand technology trying to deploy shit.
8. 2021-10-04 at 2:21 AM UTC

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   Lanny Bird of Courage
   Idk, I’ve worked with some decent operations folks in the past. Like it’s not brain surgery but then neither is development. But it’s not the same skill set, it was nice to have someone else worry about all the bullshit little tasks like package upgrades, capacity planning, etc. In the brave new world of cloud services there’s still plenty of Byzantine ritual and having someone who knows how to navigate it is a valuable thing.