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Gadzooks's Preferential Drug Hierarchy

  1. 2019-03-11 at 10:29 PM UTC
    #1
    WellHung Black Hole
    1. Ethyl alcohol
    2. Crack Cocaine
    3. Benzodiazepines
    4. Crystal methamphetamines
    5. Disassociaters (Ketamine)
    6. Barbituates
    7. MDMA
    8. Hallucinogens
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  2. 2019-03-11 at 10:35 PM UTC
    #2
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Not too bad, but...

    It depends on how you're ranking them.

    MDMA, opiates, and crack all tie for most euphoria.
    MDMA lasts a lot longer than crack, though, so it gains points for that.
    Opiates are super addictive, so they lose points for that.

    Alcohol is pretty much my number one when factoring everything all together.
    1. It induces a sort of euphoria in me at the right dose.
    2. It makes me more social and less anxious.
    3. It's socially acceptable.
    4. It's not so addictive (like opiates were for me) that I have to start drinking early in the morning every day.

    Benzos are great for relieving anxiety, but the memory effects are really, really shitty, so they lose a lot of points for that.

    Dissociatives are kind of a strange one in that too high a dose is just too overwhelming, which would bring them to the lowest possible rank. But in small doses and under certain conditions, they rank somewhere higher (although not as high as any of the already above mentioned drugs).

    I actually generally don't like stimulants (other than crack). Meth fells pretty euphoric with an initial dose for a session, but it's all down hill from there, so I have to rank it lower than any of the above so far.

    Hallucinogens are interesting, but I also have a bad track record for frequent bad trips, so I have to place them fairly low on the hierarchy.
  3. 2019-03-11 at 10:38 PM UTC
    #3
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    So I would maybe list them as follows:

    1. MDMA.
    2. Crack.
    3. Opiates.
    4. Alcohol.
    5. Benzos.
    6. Dissociatives (ketamine, nitrous, etc).
    7. Meth.
    8. Cocaine (HCl / powdered).
    9. Hallucinogens (I'm lumping them all together here).
    10. Sobriety.
    11. Very low dose of marijuana.
    12. Feeling shitty and being sober without any drugs around.
    13. Moderate to high doses of marijuana.
  4. 2019-03-11 at 10:42 PM UTC
    #4
    WellHung Black Hole
    I love MDMA,
    damn just can't get that no more.😞😟
  5. 2019-03-11 at 10:42 PM UTC
    #5
    WellHung Black Hole
    So basically you hate getting baked on weed? Why do you hate it so much?
  6. 2019-03-11 at 10:45 PM UTC
    #6
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by WellHung So basically you hate getting baked on weed? Why do you hate it so much?

    For some reason it just fucks me up in a really bad way.

    I have never been able to put it into terms that others would understand, because it seems to be an incredibly rare condition.

    I used to smoke it daily for years, but it just gradually went from fun and interesting to mentally terrifying.

    If someone put a blunt of quality weed on the table and a brief case with $100,000 in it on the table as well, and offered me that money to smoke that blunt straight to the dome, I would reject it.

    That's how badly weed affects me.
  7. 2019-03-11 at 10:47 PM UTC
    #7
    WellHung Black Hole
    When you say straight to the dom...u mean smoke the whole blunt?
  8. 2019-03-11 at 10:47 PM UTC
    #8
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by WellHung When you say straight to the dom…u mean smoke the whole blunt?

    Yes.
  9. 2019-03-11 at 10:49 PM UTC
    #9
    WellHung Black Hole
    It fucks with me too... psychosis and shit.👍
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  10. 2019-03-11 at 10:59 PM UTC
    #10
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by WellHung It fucks with me too… psychosis and shit.👍

  11. 2019-03-12 at 1:12 AM UTC
    #11
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole
    It used to do that to me. What I had to do was smoke like half a hit at a time for a week or two, then it seemed to normalize

    I don't really like the way it effects me though, I was only smoking it because I seem to have some sort of movement disorder that makes my balance really bad. Meth and weed are the only two things I've found that fix it.

    Now that we have CBD-only weed that works almost as well for that, no reason to risk failing a drug test for effects I don't even really like
  12. 2019-03-12 at 2:42 AM UTC
    #12
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    They've actually brainwashed themselves into believing the weed will fuck them up, but it's all in their head, not real. Weed CAN'T fuck a person up the way they describe it. It's chemically impossible.

    "Sometimes a person can have a response to a placebo. The response can be positive or negative. For instance, the person's symptoms may improve. Or the person may have what appears to be side effects from the treatment. These responses are known as the "placebo effect."

    There are some conditions in which a placebo can produce results even when people know they are taking a placebo. Studies show that placebos can have an effect on conditions such as:

    In one study involving asthma, people using a placebo inhaler did no better on breathing tests than sitting and doing nothing. But when researchers asked for people's perception of how they felt, the placebo inhaler was reported as being as effective as medicine in providing relief.

    How Does the Placebo Effect Work?

    Research on the placebo effect has focused on the relationship of mind and body. One of the most common theories is that the placebo effect is due to a person's expectations. If a person expects a pill to do something, then it's possible that the body's own chemistry can cause effects similar to what a medication might have caused."

    https://www.webmd.com/pain-management/what-is-the-placebo-effect#1
  13. 2019-03-12 at 2:45 AM UTC
    #13
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by -SpectraL They've actually brainwashed themselves into believing the weed will fuck them up, but it's all in their head, not real. Weed CAN'T fuck a person up the way they describe it. It's chemically impossible.

    "Sometimes a person can have a response to a placebo. The response can be positive or negative. For instance, the person's symptoms may improve. Or the person may have what appears to be side effects from the treatment. These responses are known as the "placebo effect."

    There are some conditions in which a placebo can produce results even when people know they are taking a placebo. Studies show that placebos can have an effect on conditions such as:

    In one study involving asthma, people using a placebo inhaler did no better on breathing tests than sitting and doing nothing. But when researchers asked for people's perception of how they felt, the placebo inhaler was reported as being as effective as medicine in providing relief.

    How Does the Placebo Effect Work?

    Research on the placebo effect has focused on the relationship of mind and body. One of the most common theories is that the placebo effect is due to a person's expectations. If a person expects a pill to do something, then it's possible that the body's own chemistry can cause effects similar to what a medication might have caused."

    https://www.webmd.com/pain-management/what-is-the-placebo-effect#1

    This is some next level dumb shit right here.
  14. 2019-03-12 at 3:19 AM UTC
    #14
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Your expectation is the ill effects, and so your body mimics that belief. True.
  15. 2019-03-12 at 3:25 AM UTC
    #15
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by -SpectraL Your expectation is the ill effects, and so your body mimics that belief. True.

    That's just so plain wrong.

    So bad trips on hallucinogens are just placebo too?

    Next you're going to tell me that schizophrenia is placebo, too...
  16. 2019-03-12 at 3:26 AM UTC
    #16
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole
    Originally posted by -SpectraL Your expectation is the ill effects, and so your body mimics that belief. True.

    My expectation is for you to stfu. Can your body mimic that?
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  17. 2019-03-12 at 1:21 PM UTC
    #17
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by ohfralala My expectation is for you to stfu. Can your body mimic that?

    And if I refuse?
  18. 2019-03-12 at 1:57 PM UTC
    #18
    tee hee hee Naturally Camouflaged [slangily complete this slumberer]
    Originally posted by gadzooks

    Awww..you guys finally bonded 😁
  19. 2019-03-12 at 2:30 PM UTC
    #19
    Jiggaboo_Johnson Black Hole
    1. Fresh air
    2. Self righteousness
    3. superiority over others
    4. inner strength
    5. physical strength
    6. a large functional penis (yours not someone elses)
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