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2018-10-09 at 11:36 AM UTC in Should women be charged with a crime for making false rape allegations?
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2018-10-09 at 10:53 AM UTC in Should women be charged with a crime for making false rape allegations?
Originally posted by Speedy Parker I kind of like you but that is pure anecdotal evidence and speaks nothing of her credibility.
I was relating my story of how easily one can forget these types of parties in our teenage years. IMO I can see why she forgot some things. Thank God nothing happened to me at that party, Iād have never been able to even find the house, my GF brought me there
That is emotional conjecture. Parts of her testimony of her story have been demonstrated to be false by her own testimony. Her reluctance to travel to testify for a fear of flying for example.
One can have a fear of flying but force themselves to get on a plane. My husband refuses to fly, but he flew to his sisters funeral.
Did you watch the entire hearing? I did. I know, get a life. The pint is when questioned by the Senate Judiciary Committee she stated that only Kavanagh and Judge were in the room. When questioned by Rachel Mitchell about the fact that her therapists notes state she told her therapist there were four boys in the room and none of them were named she testified that the therapists notes were wrong and that she told the therapist two boys and their names. Point after point in her story does not match with multiple credible sources or her own testimony.
I looked into this because I was not aware of that. Didnāt get to watch the whole thing, just highlights. She told her psychologist that there were 4 other boys at the party, but he wrote down that there were 4 in the room with her. An easy mistake, psychologists donāt usually make their notes till after the session, I can see how that would happen.
The polygraph administrator entered a sworn statement to the senate. He only asked her two questions. Is any part of your statement false and did you make up Amy part of your statement. Her attorney released the entire report before she testified. Read it for yourself.
https://www.scribd.com/document/389547505/Dr-Christine-Blasey-Ford-s-Polygraph-Examination
I never saw that, still doesnāt speak against her credibility
corroborating evidence means evedince factual evidence that support an allegation. Without it no charges can be brought. That is, thankfully, the way the American Justice system should work.
Agreed 100%. Iāve already said that I couldnāt have convicted him, not enough evidence, if it were a court of law. But this was about the senators perception of the testimony they saw, their opinions. Just like them I can only have an opinion since this isnāt a true investigation.
This is why I said I could only give you my reasons for believing her, not enough evidence from a sham of an investigation.
This has been a very interesting convo, I actually learned some things, which makes it a productive convo to me. I canāt really debate it today, though. I have to work, and on my job it is very rare that I can post. Hell I rarely get time to speak to my husband or son.
Itās gonna be a busy Tuesday, plus Iām teaching today.
Good day to yaāll -
2018-10-09 at 1:58 AM UTC in All bible thumpers should dieCan I get an AMEN!
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2018-10-08 at 11:18 PM UTC in Should women be charged with a crime for making false rape allegations?
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2018-10-08 at 11:11 PM UTC in Should women be charged with a crime for making false rape allegations?
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2018-10-08 at 11:10 PM UTC in Should women be charged with a crime for making false rape allegations?
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny but if your accusing someone of bringing you home that night, dont you think you ought to be sure of his identity ?
and not simply point your finger at anyone you manage to lift your finger at ?
Benny, Iām not accusing anyone of bringing me home, Iām relaying my experience from my teens, nothing more.
Now bug off before I get the shotgun! -
2018-10-08 at 10:39 PM UTC in Should women be charged with a crime for making false rape allegations?
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2018-10-08 at 10:36 PM UTC in Should women be charged with a crime for making false rape allegations?
Originally posted by Archer513 False
You ignored the evidence that was present.
Going against facts is not an opinion or common sense.
Going with feelings is the opposite of common sense.
Although the sense of the commons is quite deteriorated th se Days.
I hope that no one makes similar accusations against a guy in your life.
I hope no one ever accuses you of something…like being a drug addict or something and presents it to one of your employers. Hopefully your employer has my sense š
Have a good one tech š¹
Again, I disagree. You presented no evidence that is 100% fact.
I did have a DHer call my job and state that I was a drug addict, but they knew it was only a vindictive thing.
Have a good day too.š -
2018-10-08 at 10:31 PM UTC in People Don't Like Me
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2018-10-08 at 10:10 PM UTC in Should women be charged with a crime for making false rape allegations?
Originally posted by Technologist I think most peopleās opinion on this can only come from their common sense, no real evidence. To most people their common sense is correct, to them. I believe that Archer came to his conclusions trying to use facts and his common sense, as did I. My common sense is no better than anyone elseās, I can only go on my experiences and what I know of human nature. I respect Archers opinion as long as heās not name calling. Like I said, him and I could go on all day with our opinions, but we donāt have facts.
Archer,
Did you even read this reply? My common sense is no better that yours, as yours is no better than mine. -
2018-10-08 at 9:49 PM UTC in Should women be charged with a crime for making false rape allegations?
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2018-10-08 at 9:44 PM UTC in Should women be charged with a crime for making false rape allegations?I think most peopleās opinion on this can only come from their common sense, no real evidence. To most people their common sense is correct, to them. I believe that Archer came to his conclusions trying to use facts and his common sense, as did I. My common sense is no better than anyone elseās, I can only go on my experiences and what I know of human nature. I respect Archers opinion as long as heās not name calling. Like I said, him and I could go on all day with our opinions, but we donāt have facts.
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2018-10-08 at 9:25 PM UTC in Should women be charged with a crime for making false rape allegations?My antecdotal story was not about rape, it was about the fact that I do not remember all the details of parties in my teens, and I was not drunk.
Archer,
You have your opinion, and I have mine. You wonāt agree with me unless I give you empirical evidence, and I canāt. I wonāt agree with you unless you can give me empirical evidence, and you canāt. Hell, you know we donāt have all the facts. We could debate this all day, but there is no real proof either way, thatās why I chose to go with my common sense. -
2018-10-08 at 8:52 PM UTC in Should women be charged with a crime for making false rape allegations?
Originally posted by Archer513 Why specifically did you believe her tech? What intellectual information did you process that turned on the light bulb?
See above
If the exact same scenario happened against your husband would you immediately leave him?
If it was proven, you bet cha
But this case doesnāt have enough evidence to prove Kavanaugh guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. The supposed investigation was a sham. Ahhh, but the judiciary committee didnāt need proof beyond a reasonable doubt, they only have their opinions, as do I! -
2018-10-08 at 8:33 PM UTC in Should women be charged with a crime for making false rape allegations?
Originally posted by mmQ If i was a jury member I couldn't in good conscience vote Kavanaugh guilty. I'm a good jury member though because I vote not on emotion or circumstantial evidence. That's all I can say. I could give a fuck less about the guy himself and honestly think he probably ISN'T a good choice for his position,, but in terms of the 'case' it's clearly unproven one way or the other and the benefit of the doubt should always go to the accused, as frustrating as that may be for a legitimate victim.
What can actually be done to change the process outside of being more efficient with rape kit testing or more thorough investigations? Without physical evidence it's damn hard to prove guilt.
Iāve served jury duty and remained objective. I wouldnāt be able to convict Kavanaugh either given the lack of evidence. But this is my common sense opinion. -
2018-10-08 at 8:16 PM UTC in Should women be charged with a crime for making false rape allegations?
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2018-10-08 at 8:12 PM UTC in Should women be charged with a crime for making false rape allegations?
Originally posted by Archer513 I think demanding equality
So you think this has to do with feminism? I donāt, and Iām far from a feminazi
Yet,acting as if you need therapy from getting your ass grabbed 30 years ago is a bit dramatic.
Who did that?
I believe and trust the majority of women Iāve met and respect in my lifetime could and do handle such things.
I have as well, and Iāve had guys speak to me in a sexual manner on the job, I just gave it right back!
Itās very odd that it has become cool to be a victim in our society. I prefer the good ole days when women got attention from posting their ass and cleavage.
Wait a minute, if you believe Trump, white males are the victims. Looks like the tables have turned.
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2018-10-08 at 8:03 PM UTC in Should women be charged with a crime for making false rape allegations?
Originally posted by Speedy Parker OK I'll listen. Tell me without relying on emotions or antecedotal evidence, using only facts and corroborated evidence or testimony what makes Christine Blasey Ford credible?
Was it her fear of flying?
Was it the fact that none of the witnesses named by her corroborated her allegation?
Or perhaps it was her sworn statement under oath to the senate that Kavanagh and Judge arrived at the party already drunk but she can't recall if they arrived before her or after her?
Which begs the following question. If Kavanagh and Judge were there, which has not been proven by any stretch, and they arrived before she did, how could she possibly know what state either of them were in upon their arrival?
But convince me of her credibility. I'm serious and not trying to stir shit.
Speedy,
Iām not going to try to convince you, you seem to have your mind made up; but I will give you my reasons for believing her.
First off, Iām her age, and I sat here one day and tried to remember all the parties I went to back in my teens. Hell, Iāve pictured different parties that I went to in my mind, but most of the details are very sketchy. I know my GF took me to one but I couldnāt tell you the lay out of the house, nor can I remember most of the people that were there. That particular party my GF was being a slut and sleeping with more than one guy, so I left; guess what?..... I donāt remember who brought me home, I know it was some guy that was there, hell i donāt even remember the car, and I certainly couldnāt take you to the house. This is not the only party that I went to that the details are very sketchy, just the one that stands out in my mind. My GF couldnāt corroborate what happened with me, she was smashed. I guess I better let you know that I didnāt drink back then, only weed.
Secondly I watched the way the two of them acted when questioned, she was far more believeable, IN MY OPINION.
Thirdly she has reported this to her psychologist years ago. Do you think she made this up to her psychologist? I sure donāt. That surely doesnāt fit the conspiracy theory that the right is preaching, this was all a set up, ahhh highly unlikely.
Now seriously, why would any women report this shit on such a high level. She knew it would up end her life. She knew she would be slandered at the highest level, and she has been. What person would ask for that to happen to their established life? No one.
Everyone keeps talking about corroborating evidence, weāll we donāt have any, do we? I wonder why that is??? Could it be because it wasnāt appropriately investigated? I believe so. They didnāt even interview her during the supposed investigation. They didnāt speak to her psychologist nor the polygraph administrator. Of course Judge is gonna say he wasnāt there. Whoās gonna admit to being part of that type of behavior? So I donāt have solid factual evidence, just my beliefs.
And thatās how I see it. -
2018-10-08 at 2:06 PM UTC in Should women be charged with a crime for making false rape allegations?
Originally posted by Technologist False reporting is very rare, and a large percentage of rape victims never come forward
https://www.nsvrc.org/sites/default/files/Publications_NSVRC_Overview_False-Reporting.pdf
I DO agree that false reporters should be punished. The reality is that it would mainly come as a civil suit for defamation of character which doesnāt carry stiff penalties, usually just a cash reward.
This is what you quoted. Iām discussing rarely reporting and that false allegations are rare. You chose to take it to the level of how women lie. Thatās why I questioned you going off on some other tangent. -
2018-10-08 at 1:49 PM UTC in Should women be charged with a crime for making false rape allegations?You didnāt shit on my narrative. You said women are ālying whoresā, thatās hating on women, deny it all you want. Like I said, I donāt care that you hate women, your problem, not mine.
Not a liberal or republican, BTW. Iām independent, and thank God for that.
Your article only discusses how falsehoods can be brought about on the internet, due to an experiment.
Still doesnāt dispute the fact that RAPE is rarely reported. Sorry you donāt like the truth, not what you wanna hear, but itās facts!
