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Can Trumpers argue with anything Chris Hedges says?

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    Cowboy2013 African Astronaut


    The meat of it is the first 20 minutes.
  2. #2
    the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
    Your entire premise is fundamentally flawed because it assumes that the "state"—whether Democrat or Republican—still holds meaningful power. You believe in a dying system where elections, politicians, and policy shifts matter. But the reality is that the U.S. government is nothing more than a puppet controlled by centralized economic forces: the Federal Reserve, global banking cartels, and corporate monopolies that print money out of thin air and devalue every dollar in your pocket.

    You talk about "oligarchs" and "corporatists" as if they're two opposing forces, when in reality, they're just different flavors of the same centralized oppression. Whether it's "corporate Democrats" wanting stability or "oligarch Republicans" pushing for chaos, none of it matters because both rely on a fiat money system that enslaves the masses and allows for endless war, taxation, and control.

    The idea that Trump or Biden can "save" or "destroy" democracy is a joke—democracy is already dead. The U.S. is an empire on the verge of collapse, propped up by money-printing and debt slavery. Meanwhile, the only real revolution happening isn't at the ballot box—it's in decentralization. Bitcoin is already rendering the state obsolete, and the more they try to tighten control (through CBDCs, capital controls, surveillance, and propaganda), the more people will flee to parallel economies beyond their reach.

    You say fascism won't come with jackboots, but through a "Christian cross and mass recitations of the Pledge of Allegiance." Wrong. Fascism is already here in the form of financial authoritarianism—where every transaction is monitored, where the government seizes bank accounts at will, and where inflation is nothing more than legalized theft. You want to talk about oppression? Look at what happened in Canada when truckers had their bank accounts frozen just for protesting. Look at what happened when the U.S. government tried to crush crypto with Operation Chokepoint 2.0. The real battle isn't between Trump and the Democrats—it's between those who want freedom and those who want control.

    And your whole argument about "privatization" being the problem is just as misguided. The issue isn't privatization—it’s centralization. A private, free market where individuals transact freely is the foundation of liberty. But what we have now isn’t capitalism—it’s state-sponsored cronyism, where a few megacorporations (propped up by the government and its monopoly on money) own everything. You call it "privatization," but it's really just centralized control under a different name.

    So, what does a second Trump term mean? Who cares? The entire system is built on a crumbling foundation of debt, corruption, and lies. The real future is in decentralization—where money, communication, and governance are taken out of the hands of corrupt elites and put back in the hands of individuals. The state is a relic of the past. Decentralization is the future.
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  3. #3
    Semiazas African Astronaut
    Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood Your entire premise is fundamentally flawed because it assumes that the "state"—whether Democrat or Republican—still holds meaningful power. You believe in a dying system where elections, politicians, and policy shifts matter. But the reality is that the U.S. government is nothing more than a puppet controlled by centralized economic forces: the Federal Reserve, global banking cartels, and corporate monopolies that print money out of thin air and devalue every dollar in your pocket.

    You talk about "oligarchs" and "corporatists" as if they're two opposing forces, when in reality, they're just different flavors of the same centralized oppression. Whether it's "corporate Democrats" wanting stability or "oligarch Republicans" pushing for chaos, none of it matters because both rely on a fiat money system that enslaves the masses and allows for endless war, taxation, and control.

    The idea that Trump or Biden can "save" or "destroy" democracy is a joke—democracy is already dead. The U.S. is an empire on the verge of collapse, propped up by money-printing and debt slavery. Meanwhile, the only real revolution happening isn't at the ballot box—it's in decentralization. Bitcoin is already rendering the state obsolete, and the more they try to tighten control (through CBDCs, capital controls, surveillance, and propaganda), the more people will flee to parallel economies beyond their reach.

    You say fascism won't come with jackboots, but through a "Christian cross and mass recitations of the Pledge of Allegiance." Wrong. Fascism is already here in the form of financial authoritarianism—where every transaction is monitored, where the government seizes bank accounts at will, and where inflation is nothing more than legalized theft. You want to talk about oppression? Look at what happened in Canada when truckers had their bank accounts frozen just for protesting. Look at what happened when the U.S. government tried to crush crypto with Operation Chokepoint 2.0. The real battle isn't between Trump and the Democrats—it's between those who want freedom and those who want control.

    And your whole argument about "privatization" being the problem is just as misguided. The issue isn't privatization—it’s centralization. A private, free market where individuals transact freely is the foundation of liberty. But what we have now isn’t capitalism—it’s state-sponsored cronyism, where a few megacorporations (propped up by the government and its monopoly on money) own everything. You call it "privatization," but it's really just centralized control under a different name.

    So, what does a second Trump term mean? Who cares? The entire system is built on a crumbling foundation of debt, corruption, and lies. The real future is in decentralization—where money, communication, and governance are taken out of the hands of corrupt elites and put back in the hands of individuals. The state is a relic of the past. Decentralization is the future.

    I mean, trump is doing some fucked up shit but everything you said I'd still pretty spot on
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    Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood Your entire premise is fundamentally flawed because it assumes that the "state"—whether Democrat or Republican—still holds meaningful power. You believe in a dying system where elections, politicians, and policy shifts matter. But the reality is that the U.S. government is nothing more than a puppet controlled by centralized economic forces: the Federal Reserve, global banking cartels, and corporate monopolies that print money out of thin air and devalue every dollar in your pocket.

    You talk about "oligarchs" and "corporatists" as if they're two opposing forces, when in reality, they're just different flavors of the same centralized oppression. Whether it's "corporate Democrats" wanting stability or "oligarch Republicans" pushing for chaos, none of it matters because both rely on a fiat money system that enslaves the masses and allows for endless war, taxation, and control.

    The idea that Trump or Biden can "save" or "destroy" democracy is a joke—democracy is already dead. The U.S. is an empire on the verge of collapse, propped up by money-printing and debt slavery. Meanwhile, the only real revolution happening isn't at the ballot box—it's in decentralization. Bitcoin is already rendering the state obsolete, and the more they try to tighten control (through CBDCs, capital controls, surveillance, and propaganda), the more people will flee to parallel economies beyond their reach.

    You say fascism won't come with jackboots, but through a "Christian cross and mass recitations of the Pledge of Allegiance." Wrong. Fascism is already here in the form of financial authoritarianism—where every transaction is monitored, where the government seizes bank accounts at will, and where inflation is nothing more than legalized theft. You want to talk about oppression? Look at what happened in Canada when truckers had their bank accounts frozen just for protesting. Look at what happened when the U.S. government tried to crush crypto with Operation Chokepoint 2.0. The real battle isn't between Trump and the Democrats—it's between those who want freedom and those who want control.

    And your whole argument about "privatization" being the problem is just as misguided. The issue isn't privatization—it’s centralization. A private, free market where individuals transact freely is the foundation of liberty. But what we have now isn’t capitalism—it’s state-sponsored cronyism, where a few megacorporations (propped up by the government and its monopoly on money) own everything. You call it "privatization," but it's really just centralized control under a different name.

    So, what does a second Trump term mean? Who cares? The entire system is built on a crumbling foundation of debt, corruption, and lies. The real future is in decentralization—where money, communication, and governance are taken out of the hands of corrupt elites and put back in the hands of individuals. The state is a relic of the past. Decentralization is the future.

    Very well said, and 100% bang on. I'm impressed.
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