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Is It Time For Police Reform On Arrest Procedures?

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    stl1 Naturally Camouflaged
    Associated Press
    Video shows California man pinned by officers before he dies
    By JULIET WILLIAMS, Associated Press

    SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Police in the San Francisco Bay Area city of Alameda have made public body cam footage showing officers pinning a man to the ground for more than five minutes during an arrest last week that ended in his death.

    Mario Gonzalez, 26, stopped breathing after an April 19 scuffle with police at a park in Alameda.

    A police statement said Gonzalez had a medical emergency after officers tried to handcuff him, but his family contends he was killed by police who used excessive force.

    The nearly hourlong video from two officers' body cameras that was released late Tuesday shows police talking to Gonzalez in a park after receiving 911 calls that he appeared to be disoriented or drunk. Gonzalez seems dazed and struggles to answer questions.

    The officers repeatedly ask him for his full name and birthdate.

    “We’re going to take care of you, OK, we’re going to take care of you,” one officer says on the video.

    “I think you just had too much to drink today, OK? That’s all,” the same officer says. Later, he adds, “Mario, just please stop fighting us.”

    Gonzalez, who weighed about 250 pounds (113 kilograms), is seen on the video grunting and shouting as he lies face down on wood chips while the officers restrain him. One officer puts an elbow on his neck and a knee on his shoulder.

    “He’s lifting my whole body weight up,” an officer says at one point.

    One officer also appears to put a knee on his back and leaves it there for about four minutes as Gonzalez gasps for air, saying “I didn't do nothing, OK?"

    Gonzalez’s protests appear to weaken and after about five minutes he seems to lose consciousness.

    Shortly before he stops breathing, one officer asks the other: “Think we can roll him on his side?”.

    The other answers, “I don’t want to lose what I got, man.”

    Apparently seeking reassurance, the first officer asks “we got no weight on his chest?” then repeats “No! No weight ... no weight."

    “He’s going unresponsive,” one officer says.

    The video shows officers rolling Gonzalez over and performing cardiopulmonary resuscitation. He was later pronounced dead at a hospital.

    Gonzalez had a 4-year-old son and also was the main caretaker of his 22-year-old brother, who has autism, his family said.

    An autopsy is pending to determine the cause of his death but family members of Gonzalez on Tuesday told reporters that the officers were to blame, saying they escalated what should have been a minor, peaceful encounter with the unarmed man.

    “The police killed my brother in the same manner they killed George Floyd,” said his brother, Gerardo Gonzalez.

    “He's a lovely guy. He's respectful, all the time," said Mario’s mother, Edith Arenales. “They broke my family for no reason."

    Alameda “is committed to full transparency and accountability in the aftermath of Mr. Gonzalez’s death,” the city said in a statement.

    Gonzlez’s death is under investigation by the Alameda County Sheriff’s Department, the county district attorney’s office and a former San Francisco city attorney hired by the city to lead an independent probe, the statement said.

    The three officers involved in the arrest have been placed on paid leave during the investigation.
  2. #2
    Ghost Black Hole
    nah just don't arrest non whites and when there is a rash of violence, rape and the breakdown of society and people cry for some sort of help just remember you can always buy a gun a defend yourself.

    Oh wait no, guns are morally wrong. Too bad criminals don't care about background checks.
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    AngryOnion Big Wig [the nightly self-effacing broadsheet]
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    stl1 Naturally Camouflaged
    It seems to me that it should be required for the police to get the arrestee under control as quickly as possible to eliminate these senseless killings. All it would take is to use a second pair of cuffs at the ankles after handcuffing their hands behind their backs and then getting off of the detainee. Let him flop around like a fish out of water until he decides that, like with the Borg, "Resistance is futile". A helmet of some sort may be needed to keep the arrestee from any head injury as they thrash about.
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    Ghost Black Hole
    Originally posted by stl1 It seems to me that it should be required for the police to get the arrestee under control as quickly as possible to eliminate these senseless killings.

    Just don't arrest people. Why the fuck would you arrest someone if you can go to jail for the rest of your life for just trying to do your job? If I was a cop I would just chill all day and do the bare minimum of my job to not get fired.

    most things that are illegal don't even hurt anyone. Like if you see a guy shooting heroin on a park bench why the fuck should a police officer have to deal with that? Sounds like a waste of taxpayer money to me.

    People should learn to rely on themselves instead of the government
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    netstat African Astronaut
    it's time for cops to mass suicide by all simultaneously lighting themselves on fire in the street
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    stl1 Naturally Camouflaged
    It is so nice to see such a serious discussion on such a serious topic.

    Thank you for your thoughtful input.
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    netstat African Astronaut
    it's a serious proposal
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    Nile Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by netstat it's time for cops to mass suicide by all simultaneously lighting themselves on fire in the street

    These are cops not fucking activists.

    They should double down on their tactics and then get draconian af when the masses gather up and cause mayhem.

    Have drones swarm riots collecting intelligence on phones. Link them to identities.

    Tear gas, acoustic, microwaves and rubber bullets for the crowd and vans when they're dispersed. Non-lethals emphasized so as not to waste any of the wayward cattle.

    Utilize the mobile data to scour for agitators and focus special attention on such.
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