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Physician-assisted suicide for organ donors

  1. #1
    Why is this not a thing? There are literally no downsides.

    Even if you bring in the "mentally unsound" or "coerced into it" arguments, this could be solved by having a 2 (or more) year waiting list, and who are they to judge if people are "mentally unsound" anyway? And what about people that are mentally unsound but will continue to be for the rest of their lives, who will either continue to get worse or kill themselves (or others!) anyway when their organs could've been used to save lives?

    People are going to commit suicide anyway, and 20 people that want to live die every day on the organ waiting list
  2. #2
    DietPiano Naturally Camouflaged
    I agree.

    Also, if I get the opportunity to have my brain transplanted onto someone or something else, I'm gonna take that opportunity.
    This has something to do with my beliefs as to what happens to your consciousness when you die, and I believe probably the best chances there are to give your consciousness atoms a shot to keep going is to be consumed by another person or animal, or to have your brain transplanted into basically a pickle jar of embalming fluid.
  3. #3
    Originally posted by DietPiano I agree.

    Also, if I get the opportunity to have my brain transplanted onto someone or something else, I'm gonna take that opportunity.

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    DietPiano Naturally Camouflaged
    Look ^
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    Originally posted by DietPiano Look ^

    but if your consciousness survives, what was the point in suicide?
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    Technologist victim of incest
    I don’t think they can transplant anything neurological yet. Too much electricity running through that shit.
  7. #7
    Krow African Astronaut
    How about loan4 your organs? You can get monies 4 your organs up front?.. take that vacation you always wanted..then you go 'home". Like S0lent Green
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    blaster master victim of incest
    That way people like hydro could really become an hero when they get on the bus.
  9. #9
    DietPiano Naturally Camouflaged
    Consciousness surviving is one of my current pipe dreams, it would not really be a suicide in that situation.

    I got a new license when I moved recently and apparently they transferred my donor status without asking me if I still wanted to be one or not. I use to be pretty gung ho on it "Like, what kind of asshole would say NO?". But recently? I/m really unsure as to whether I wanna be one myself or not.
  10. #10
    Regardless of my current feelings though, what downside could there possibly be to this though?
  11. #11
    Originally posted by Jυicebox Its beyond the scope of this thread, but I've always wondered if my brain was transplanted to another human if they would be exactly the same as me

    Don't know about anyone else, but if they ever tried this and and the transplant-ee started acting just like the transplant-er, it would make me instantly lose all faith in God and/of Christianity

    i thought it is obvious.

    people with brain damage lose their consciousness. and people with eroding brain functions slowly lose their consciousness.

    brain is directly responsible of being who you are.
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    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Jυicebox Why is this not a thing? There are literally no downsides.

    it'd be pretty dangerous. it's one thing for a person to make their wishes clear to family and friends to come to an understanding with the doctor, but what's to stop an unscrupulous doctor from harvesting people without a 'support network' - vagrants, orphans etc. - and manufacturing consent after the fact?

    it's not like consent isn't already manufactured in plenty of industries including medical already, but this would raise the stakes dramatically.
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    Originally posted by aldra it'd be pretty dangerous. it's one thing for a person to make their wishes clear to family and friends to come to an understanding with the doctor, but what's to stop an unscrupulous doctor from harvesting people without a 'support network' - vagrants, orphans etc. - and manufacturing consent after the fact?

    it's not like consent isn't already manufactured in plenty of industries including medical already, but this would raise the stakes dramatically.

    What's to stop them doing the same thing now?

    And if suicide for organ donation did become a thing I don't think organs on the black market would have the ridiculous value that they have now
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    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Jυicebox What's to stop them doing the same thing now?

    suicides are investigated and autopsied which makes harvesting like this risky, especially since most doctors are already paid very well.

    Originally posted by Jυicebox and if suicide for organ donation did become a thing I don't think organs on the black market would have the ridiculous value that they have now

    maybe, I haven't thought about that. I think human organs will probably be very expensive regardless of market conditions though, at least until they can be cheaply lab-grown
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    DietPiano Naturally Camouflaged
    In some countries I believe you can sell one of your kidneys legally, but this doesn't necessarily ease the extortion involved with the pressuring of people to sell or give up their organ for a vicious suitor. Also, this puts added pressure on people whose family members urge them to sell their kidney to help pay off their debt, because they can do so without legal retribution. Removing this option lessens the pressure as they can use the excuse "It's illegal, I could go to jail".

    I was looking this up a couple days ago for some reason.
  16. #16
    Ghost Black Hole
    Assisted suicide will never be legal. Here is my reasoning, suicide is a personal freedom and a public health issue just like illegal drugs.

    Legalizing drugs would reduce deaths and overdoses and that will likely never happen in our lifetime so assisted suicide is going to take as long. You are not allowed personal freedoms that affect public health. You can be locked up for threatning to kill yourself.
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    mikeyagain African Astronaut [unalterably regard the persecutor]
    Originally posted by DietPiano In some countries I believe you can sell one of your kidneys legally, but this doesn't necessarily ease the extortion involved with the pressuring of people to sell or give up their organ for a vicious suitor. Also, this puts added pressure on people whose family members urge them to sell their kidney to help pay off their debt, because they can do so without legal retribution. Removing this option lessens the pressure as they can use the excuse "It's illegal, I could go to jail".

    I was looking this up a couple days ago for some reason.

    You're disturbing my PM..😥
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    DietPiano Naturally Camouflaged
    what
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    Nil African Astronaut
    Originally posted by aldra it'd be pretty dangerous. it's one thing for a person to make their wishes clear to family and friends to come to an understanding with the doctor, but what's to stop an unscrupulous doctor from harvesting people without a 'support network' - vagrants, orphans etc. - and manufacturing consent after the fact?

    it's not like consent isn't already manufactured in plenty of industries including medical already, but this would raise the stakes dramatically.

    The homeless-euthanasia-organ complex.
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    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    globo-homo-suicide-oregano
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