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Good languages to become an asset?
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2018-05-21 at 5:43 AM UTCC
Python
Java
.net
๐or no๐?
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2018-05-21 at 5:52 AM UTCspanish
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2018-05-21 at 6:10 AM UTCJavascript's probably the biggest up and comer language these days. It's not a good language, but it's highly employable. There's always plenty of Java jobs but the payscale is usually worse and your quality of life in general is worse.
You don't really want to sell yourself as a "<your language> programmer" because no one really hires a person because they know know a specific programming language, your salary comes from you being able to build something that can be sold effectively and employment depends on you being able to demonstrate that. It's a sort of open secret that you ignore years of experience and "skills" requirements when applying for jobs, it doesn't matter so employers put unrealistic "requirements" and you inflate the hell out of your qualifications, and then when you get an interview it doesn't matter how far your resume is from reality if you can convince someone you'll help make them money. -
2018-05-21 at 6:15 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny Javascript's probably the biggest up and comer language these days. It's not a good language, but it's highly employable. There's always plenty of Java jobs but the payscale is usually worse and your quality of life in general is worse.
You don't really want to sell yourself as a "<your language> programmer" because no one really hires a person because they know know a specific programming language, your salary comes from you being able to build something that can be sold effectively and employment depends on you being able to demonstrate that. It's a sort of open secret that you ignore years of experience and "skills" requirements when applying for jobs, it doesn't matter so employers put unrealistic "requirements" and you inflate the hell out of your qualifications, and then when you get an interview it doesn't matter how far your resume is from reality if you can convince someone you'll help make them money.
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2018-05-21 at 6:16 AM UTCwha's the one that's easiest to learn and can make us like 50k a year? is there one ?
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2018-05-21 at 6:18 AM UTCWhat about freelancin'
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2018-05-21 at 6:21 AM UTCJava programmer's are the dick heads right? The one all the new guys know and they shit on the guys who been there right?
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2018-05-21 at 6:23 AM UTCI want to know the language that I can learn in the next year that will make me 50 thousand dollars a year after that. IS THERE ONE?
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2018-05-21 at 6:25 AM UTC
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2018-05-21 at 6:30 AM UTCsure we all do.
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2018-05-21 at 6:30 AM UTCI thought with coding you can just get good at it because it's systematic but not like GOOD writing
that's why Im dumb do you have to be CREATIVE with code? hmmmmmmmmmmmm -
2018-05-21 at 6:33 AM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ sure we all do.
We all do? There's other jobs out there that pay good with the freedom of freelance and perks. You say we all do, but if what you say is true, it's the case of the devil we know vs devil we don't.
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But I had to come back for editing to explain that not all do want to work freelance...
What about the jobs working for reputable employers. Some people like that shit. -
2018-05-21 at 7:47 AM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ wha's the one that's easiest to learn and can make us like 50k a year? is there one ?
50k is pretty low for a programmer's salary so pretty much any language assuming you can find a job doing it. Like I said earlier, Java and Javascript are probably the most advertised for languages, but there's more to commercial software development than "learn a popular programming language".
Originally posted by Slaynk What about freelancin'
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People do freelancing and are successful with it but from the freelancers I know tell me, it takes a lot more effort than getting a salaried job. Basically the range of things you need to do broadens from "write code to make money" to everything involved in running a business like finances, promotions, customer relations.
Originally posted by Slaynk Java programmer's are the dick heads right? The one all the new guys know and they shit on the guys who been there right?
Everyone thinks everyone else is a dickhead pretty much. Java isn't a new language at this point, it's well past being something people brag about. Among career programmers, someone might tease you for not knowing Java, but not because it's a good language, just because it's so pervasive that not having learned it suggests a lack of experience.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-05-21 at 7:49 AM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ I thought with coding you can just get good at it because it's systematic but not like GOOD writing
that's why Im dumb do you have to be CREATIVE with code? hmmmmmmmmmmmm
Not if you're getting told what to do. Perhaps you have to come up with creative solutions to certain problems, but what i like about coding is that i often have inspiration to create things, i feel creative. So i pour this creative energy into writing a program i think will be useful to me and others.
And probably Python. Python programmers are paid pretty well.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-05-21 at 8:04 AM UTCHow feasible is it to make 70k a year, freelance with a bs from the community college? Should I learn python good? How long will it take me to get to that point? I am slightly below average.
I respect the trade, but I can't imagine it really being a creative process, even though I understand there's more than one way to skin a cat. -
2018-05-21 at 8:45 AM UTCWhat exactly do you want to do? Different areas in the IT industry tend to make use of different programming/scripting languages
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2018-05-21 at 8:54 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra What exactly do you want to?
Show up to somewhere, my own office with a secure connection, Monday through Friday and work four hours each day
I imagine I'll draw 35k a year before taxes... Cool?
I want a small room
I want a desk
Desktop
And I'll close door and work 4 hours, not talking to anybody. I'll have a knick knack toy at my desk.
Four hours is over and I'm leaving.
Repeat til dead, or no clientele??
I think yes
But I'd debug, or I could develope software... fill orders asked for by the client.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-05-21 at 9:11 AM UTCLearn lua or html and i'll hire you.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2018-05-21 at 5:03 PM UTC
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2018-05-21 at 5:06 PM UTC
Originally posted by Slaynk Show up to somewhere, my own office with a secure connection, Monday through Friday and work four hours each day
I imagine I'll draw 35k a year before taxes… Cool?
I want a small room
I want a desk
Desktop
And I'll close door and work 4 hours, not talking to anybody. I'll have a knick knack toy at my desk.
Four hours is over and I'm leaving.
Repeat til dead, or no clientele??
I think yes
But I'd debug, or I could develope software… fill orders asked for by the client.
you won't need to program to do something like that
are you more comfortable with windows, lunix or osx?
would you rather work on desktop applications, web applications, mobile, devops etc.?
